Hey Atheists! Why?

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

:homo:

seems like the world would be a lot nice place if there was no religion. maybe that is gods way of thinning the heard with all the wars that involved religious issues.

Well what interests me the most is this:

I am a man of science, I have been in the field of science for many years now.....I know gravity exists....Not because I have physically seen it, but because I have seen evidence of it's definition.

Personally....I find no need to argue its existence, nor do I really care what you might call it......It's a force that does something...Bottom line.

But try calling God anything other than Jesus or God...and we find it a need to drop a bomb on somebody to prove a point.

The Bible I read....Spoke of Tolerance, Temperence and humility....

In the Koran, Quoran Lacucaracha whatever it's called, it has a section that surprised me it says:

"Kill one brother, and you kill all your brothers"

"Save one man and you save mankind"

Now to me that sounds a lot different than what Hamas preaches.....


They and Christians are willing to kill another person for calling gravity by another name....

I find the best prayer for me is with my mouth shut and my mind wide open

 

[Alien Allen]

I find the best prayer for me is with my mouth shut and my mind wide open

I like that

 

[Tim]

I might be wrong but I think the standard Atheist standard is "non believe" in God because there is proof of God. There is really nothing to argue there. The only issue I have with Atheism is that restricting your beliefs to what can be proven seems limiting because many Atheists come across as not only as "non belief" but also as "non-consideration" of what might be possible. I could be wrong about that. It's just an impression.

If there is arguing by Atheists about God it is to discount assertions for specific religious dogma such as the concept of the Christian God, his power, what he does, his relationship in our lives. Again, that argument is based on lack of evidence, nothing more.

I'm an Atheist and do not believe in God, but if I were to see him or have some other evidence presented that would prove me otherwise, I would then believe. Just like I don't believe in flying fire breathing dragons... but if one were to fly over my head and torch my house, I would then believe.

Just because my belief would change given evidence to the contrary, that does not make me an agnostic.

Being an Atheist doesn't mean that I would reject proof of a god, but I'm also not holding my breath waiting for some. The same as I'm not holding my breath waiting for proof of fire breathing dragons, no matter how many others may believe.

 

[Minor Axis]

I might be wrong but I think the standard Atheist standard is "non believe" in God because there is proof of God. There is really nothing to argue there. The only issue I have with Atheism is that restricting your beliefs to what can be proven seems limiting because many Atheists come across as not only as "non belief" but also as "non-consideration" of what might be possible. I could be wrong about that. It's just an impression.

If there is arguing by Atheists about God it is to discount assertions for specific religious dogma such as the concept of the Christian God, his power, what he does, his relationship in our lives. Again, that argument is based on lack of evidence, nothing more.

Boy I screwed that up. How about:

I might be wrong but I think the standard Atheist standard is "non belief" in God because there is no proof of God. There is really nothing to argue there. The only issue I have with Atheism is that restricting your beliefs to what can be proven seems limiting because many Atheists come across as not only as "non belief" but also as "non-consideration" of what might be possible. I could be wrong about that. It's just an impression.

I'm an Atheist and do not believe in God, but if I were to see him or have some other evidence presented that would prove me otherwise, I would then believe. Just like I don't believe in flying fire breathing dragons... but if one were to fly over my head and torch my house, I would then believe.

Just because my belief would change given evidence to the contrary, that does not make me an agnostic.

Being an Atheist doesn't mean that I would reject proof of a god, but I'm also not holding my breath waiting for some. The same as I'm not holding my breath waiting for proof of fire breathing dragons, no matter how many others may believe.

Tim, where do the possibility of spirits and an afterlife fall into Athiest beliefs? I assume that because there is no proof of those, they are not believed in either. However as an Agnostic, I can't say I believe in them but for a variety of non-provable reasons I lean towards feeling an afterlife is a strong possibility. But it's not a belief, maybe a hope? You only get me arguing when someone says they believe in something specific such as the Christian God. I guess it is a fine point if you say "there is no God" versus "I don't believe in God based on lack of evidence". If an Atheist says "there is no God" I would say they are just as far out on a limb as the religious zealots.

 

[Tim]

My whole life I was taught to believe in God, but why? If this was discussion about Zeus 500 years ago would you have the same feelings if I said Zeus did not exist vs I don't believe on lack of evidence? Do you see where I am coming from? I believe in God as much as I believe in Zeus, Allah, Unicorns, Leprechauns and fire breathing dragons. Why is it any different? Just because enough people carry on the myth of God it's true, or must be true? There are people that still believe the world is flat and that vampires really exist. That doesn't mean I need to make room for it to be a possibility.

I understand why there is religion, I understand the reason people had a need to believe in something greater than they are. This is exactly why there have been hundreds of different religions throughout the years. And why does it have to be God and not Allah or Buddha, etc? Well that's because of where we grew up... Here in the states, it's God. So how does that lead any credence to the argument when they would be swearing with every breath that it is Allah if were were born in Pakistan. Think about it.

 

[Minor Axis]

Think about it.

I have. We might not wonder eye to eye but really don't have an argument.

 

[spaz]

I'm an Atheist and do not believe in God, but if I were to see him or have some other evidence presented that would prove me otherwise, I would then believe. Just like I don't believe in flying fire breathing dragons... but if one were to fly over my head and torch my house, I would then believe.

Just because my belief would change given evidence to the contrary, that does not make me an agnostic.

Being an Atheist doesn't mean that I would reject proof of a god, but I'm also not holding my breath waiting for some. The same as I'm not holding my breath waiting for proof of fire breathing dragons, no matter how many others may believe.

agreed with wholeheartedly! well said.

 

[lonemeditater]

I really believe that there is about as much definite proof for evolution as there is for creation. I've yet to receive said proof for either side, but on both sides i find that those who get along best with those who differ in beliefs, and/or those who differ from them in general are the ones who claim no definite proof, only reason, those who accept that people are allowed to believe what they want, and those who will put logic over emotion in the discussion of such subjects...

 

[Dana]

Why? Because I don't need to believe there id a God to feel better about myself. Just because I can't answer the question of where did the universe come from doesn't mean that it's proof that a God created it. I'm ok with the fact that we don't have all the answers, we never will. But just look at how much more we know than our ancestors. I can say for certain that lightning bolts are NOT being thrown around by Zeus from Mt. Olympus. And this is why we believe in a God... to answer all those questions we could not through science...

Why would one need a God or a heaven to make them feel better about them selves? I'm not religious at all but I believe in an after life and a higher power. Believing in something doesn't make one feel better about themselves or make them better than anyone else. Beliefs are just that...

Now with the universe and that crap... I'm up in the air... nobody knows how that shit began and I know damn well it wasn't created in 7 days... I mean go look in a museum.

 

[Native]

Everyone you can't take a logical view at any of this. I mean how did the first matter come into place? There is no explanation to that.

 

[All Else Failed]

why does there have to be a god to explain that?

 

[Native]

It doesn't, just that logic won't help to solve anything about the worlds creation.

 

[Richy]

Figured I'd throw my opinion into the mix....

I think the whole religious thing is down to faith and Popularity

EG.. people who believe in Aliens with no proof are mocked
People who believe in God with also no proof are accepted, obv not by everyone but you get my point.

Nobody can proove one way or another god does or dosnt exict.

If someone came on the forum and said i am jesus, they'd most likly be owned, so think of things thousands of years ago when people were less intelegent than today.

Sorry if am rambling on, am half asleep it makes sence in my head

 

[Native]

I agree I think? If your saying like that everyone believes in something, but if they can't prove it they get mocked for their faith?

 

[Alien Allen]

I believe there is a hell of a lot more odds of there being other living beings in the universe versus there being a god that started all of this

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I believe there is a hell of a lot more odds of there being other living beings in the universe versus there being a god that started all of this

Why can't there be both?

 

[Alien Allen]

Why can't there be both?

there could

I am just saying for me the logic is that we are not the only place with life. So I think the odds are that one would be true where the other there is no logic. I don't expect people who believe in god to agree.

 

[Minor Axis]

Everyone you can't take a logical view at any of this. I mean how did the first matter come into place? There is no explanation to that.

No offense, but you sound more faithful, than logical when it comes to religion.

 

[michael4168]

I think the debate about which theory is correct is a total waste of thought.
If you are an atheist and believe there is no god, cool.
The same sentiment goes to the religious believers.
But I believe the cold, hard truth of the matter is: We will never get definitive evidence to prove or disprove either satnce on the subject.

 

[Minor Axis]

I think the debate about which theory is correct is a total waste of thought.
If you are an atheist and believe there is no god, cool.
The same sentiment goes to the religious believers.
But I believe the cold, hard truth of the matter is: We will never get definitive evidence to prove or disprove either satnce on the subject.

You may get some definitive evidence on the day you die... of course it will be tough sending word back to the rest of humanity.