What is this nations fascination with fire arms?

[Abcinthia]

Statistical data is flawed at the best of the time. Depending on how those stats are calculated, they can be made to show absolutely anything.

 

[All Else Failed]

You can explain the violence in America with the simple observation that we have a lot of poor minorities.

 

[itsmeJonB]

when im famous as a rapper im gonna own guns to uphold my gangsta image

 

[Accountable]

You can explain the violence in America with the simple observation that we have a lot of poor minorities.

That must be it. If we get rid of all the poor minorities and only keep the poor white people (law abiding to a fault, I've heard) then we'll be a safe country.

 

[Meirionnydd]

The Swiss are excellent shots actually. The produce some of the top shooters in the world.

I don't have an explanation though, other than crime rates are dependant upon many other things other than availability of weaponry.

Correlation is not causation, but if you have no correlation you can't have causation.

To put it in perspective even more, every swiss male of fighting age is required to keep their fully automatic assualt rifle in their home along with ~100 rounds of ammunition for use in the militia. And yet there's no mass spray and pray shootings oddly enough.

As a contrast, I have to go through a 90 day background check including fingerprint analysis and pay a $200 transfer tax in order to own a full auto weapon, and even then I can only own weaponry made and registered before May of 1986 that start @ $5000 and go up...

Not since 2007. The government stopped issuing ammunition to reservists, due to 'safety concerns'.

 

[All Else Failed]

That must be it. If we get rid of all the poor minorities and only keep the poor white people (law abiding to a fault, I've heard) then we'll be a safe country.

Actually among poor races African Americans still cause more crime. You can accept reality or not.

 

[Accountable]

You can explain the violence in America with the simple observation that we have a lot of poor minorities.

Actually among poor races African Americans still cause more crime. You can accept reality or not.

What your posts appear to indicate is that you honestly believe that they commit crimes because they are born criminals -- that poor minorities are violent criminals because they are not white.

Is this accurate, or would you care to clarify?

 

[Meirionnydd]

It's a cultural thing. Learned behavior, not ingrained instinct.

While we're at it, would you care to clarify on that?

 

[All Else Failed]

What your posts appear to indicate is that you honestly believe that they commit crimes because they are born criminals -- that poor minorities are violent criminals because they are not white.

Is this accurate, or would you care to clarify?

Plenty of poor whites commit crimes. its just that, statistically, poor blacks commit more crime. I don't know what causes it, I just go off of proven data.

However, I do think the "gangster" culture that pervades the black community does contribute.

 

[sierrabravo]

you just reminded me, i checked the population "census" at my jail the other day, 65% of our inmates are white, don't know about other areas though. and here's some french guns. :24:

 

[edgray]

Plenty of poor whites commit crimes. its just that, statistically, poor blacks commit more crime. I don't know what causes it, I just go off of proven data.

However, I do think the "gangster" culture that pervades the black community does contribute.

gangster culture is prevelent in white society too, even in the UK.

In the UK it's an accepted fact that young black males disproportionately commit more crimes than their white counterparts. It's also accepted that this has nothing to do with race, or culture, but more inequality and the impoverished areas in which they live in, coupled with the struggle against racism they face just trying to live a normal life.

The UK, as far as countries go is pretty tolerant, but there's a lot of racism still around.

 

[sierrabravo]

yeah racism is still out there, it's just kept quieter than in the past

 

[edgray]

It's just what poor black people do. It's their culture.

Now see that's racist. Poor white people commit crime too. It has nothing to do with culture or creed.

 

[edgray]

Oh really? Then what does it have to do with, hm?

Same economic status, same area, same everything. Different race. That is the deciding factor, whether you choose to play ignorant to keep with political correctness or not, we both know it is true.

oh really? so someone's race or the colour of someone's skin is the decider?

GET THE FUCK OUT.

That is racism, plain and simple.

"Same economic status, same area, same everything."

No fucking way. There is no way you could EVER say that poor white people have to face "the same everything" as poor black people when there are people like yourself judging them by skin colour. Do you realise how much racism the average black person would face in their life? How could you possibly say that?

Sorry for getting angry but racism is an issue I've had to cope with before and it is unacceptable, totally unacceptable.

 

[SouthOfHeaven]

Kk guys let's chill...

 

[GuesSAngel]

yeah play nice boys

 

[edgray]

and I quote:

Same economic status, same area, same everything. Different race. That is the deciding factor,

thats what you said: RACE is the deciding factor. When you assign traits like this to a group of people solely on their race it is RACIST. And it's a dangerous attitude to have because if you truly believe that, then you will automatically be judging EVERYONE of that race with the same twisted view.

I could rant just as much about how reverse racism is negatively affecting white people.

I've heard many a white supremacist utter those ridiculous words before. Firstly, we have people in the UK that say that kind of thing in relation to government ethnic minority quotas etc, and there is a reason for that kind of thing: it's a simple fact that white employers will nearly always choose a white candidate over a black one. You give me one good example of how reverse racism affects white people and I'll just remind you of: slavery, segregation and years of oppression not to mention people like yourself judging people by the colour of their skin and how hard it can be for minorities to get ahead when 90% of the people they face are like yourself.

 

[SouthOfHeaven]

Personal attacks big no nos fair warning before a mod takes over..

 

[AUDRAA]

Personal attacks big no nos fair warning before a mod takes over..

done
I warned you yesterday about this...

 

[ccspark]

Race, not simply skin color. There is more to it than that.

You're an idiot. That's not being racist, thats stereotyping. Quit putting words in my mouth, I have not assigned any traits to any race. I am just being statistically accurate. Next time you try to pull this shit I'll start putting words in your mouth and see how you like it.

Oh yeah bro, I'm totally a white supremacist just because I choose not to be ignorant and delude myself into a way of thinking. Holy shit you're a moron. I have yet to judge a single black person, or any minority of that matter based on race. Hey bud, slavery? Really? That's said and done with. Boy, you know your argument is weak when you have to bring up something that's been done with well over a hundred years.

Now you need to get your facts straight.