What is the point of hating our troops?

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All Else Failed

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LMAO! You think people inciting hatred at funerals is less ugly???


BBC NEWS | Politics | Disabled hate crime law planned

This is the laws we have and that are coming into force in the UK. No ones democracy is affected at all unless they are a racist, gay bashing bully and I personally don't see anything wrong with stopping people running around in public loudly putting these views across and offending peaceful citizens who can't avoid them.
Actually, they people that that law effects are having their right limited.

No, I think it would get ugly if you have a small group of people (the government) deciding what is and isn't ok to say in public.
 

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Actually, they people that that law effects are having their right limited.

No, I think it would get ugly if you have a small group of people (the government) deciding what is and isn't ok to say in public.

I couldn't give a shit and think it's right they have their rights limited if they are abusing them. Like I said before, I respect peaceful peoples right to be left alone over the rights of homophobes and racists. I really do wonder why you value the rights of people preaching homophobia and racism above the rights of peaceful people seeing that your attitude about homophobia and racism expressed many times on this forum says you think it's wrong?
 

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No but it would be if you worded it different . Like. I hope we do not succeed in Iraq, and we lose alot more men and women. Or we deseve to fail.
call me cRaZy, but I don't even think that is treason. I think its very mean spirited, though.

To me, treason is trying to actively subvert your country (sabotage, assassinations, bombings etc etc). Words spoken by a few nut cases isn't doing that.
 

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I couldn't give a shit and think it's right they have their rights limited if they are abusing them. Like I said before, I respect peaceful peoples right to be left alone over the rights of homophobes and racists. I really do wonder why you value the rights of people preaching homophobia and racism above the rights of peaceful people seeing that your attitude about homophobia and racism expressed many times on this forum says you think it's wrong?
wait, I read what you posted wrong, my bad. I do support legislation that protects people from discrimination. I just don't think this whole funeral thing is discrimination, though.
 

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I would love to stay here and debate this all night with you. But I have to go out side and Lower my American flag and fold it before it gets dark here. So Gad bless America and everyone in it. Especially the ones serving for it......... And peace out Peter.
 

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I have an upside down American flag in my room. It always stays up! haha ; ^ *



(meaning I think my country is in distress, of course)
 

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wait, I read what you posted wrong, my bad. I do support legislation that protects people from discrimination. I just don't think this whole funeral thing is discrimination, though.

So you honestly don't see that calling Gay people fags and waving placards around in the streets with homophobic messages on it is discrimination? Wow, you really have a completely different view of the meaning of the word discrimination than the one I've been brought up with!

"Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice" - Thats the definition in the English dictionary, is it wrong?
 

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So you honestly don't see that calling Gay people fags and waving placards around in the streets with homophobic messages on it is discrimination? Wow, you really have a completely different view of the meaning of the word discrimination than the one I've been brought up with!

"Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice" - Thats the definition in the English dictionary, is it wrong?

Thats not discrimination, its just being a complete moron. You misunderstand me.


"Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice"

^^^ They are talking about denying somehting like a job to a person based on their attributes. Like lets say, a black person being denied service at a restaurant, or a gay person being denied a job because he is gay. THAT is discrimination. Someone protesting with somehting written on a sign isn't doing that. I do think its really backwards and stupid of them to do it, though.
 

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"Treatment or CONSIDERATION based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice"

Calling someone a fag and saying that homosexuality is wrong is a condisideration!
 

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"Treatment or CONSIDERATION based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice"

Calling someone a fag and saying that homosexuality is wrong is a condisideration!
I think calling someone a fag is in very poor taste, and makes you look like a fool, but its not discrimination, since they are talking about things like consideration for a job or something to that effect. People that call gay people fags are just Neanderthals that shouldn't be taken seriously.
 

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I think calling someone a fag is in very poor taste, and makes you look like a fool, but its not discrimination, since they are talking about things like consideration for a job or something to that effect.

So you think the dictionary is poor at wording things then? Prove that it's only talking about consideration for a job or something then? I honest think it's highly unlikely that the English dictionary has been worded poorly!
 

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So you think the dictionary is poor at wording things then? Prove that it's only talking about consideration for a job or something then? I honest think it's highly unlikely that the English dictionary has been worded poorly!

You got whole night Pete? He's gonna try to prove it.:24:

There I go again. Ok I stop now. No more wise cracks for the night.
 

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So you think the dictionary is poor at wording things then? Prove that it's only talking about consideration for a job or something then? I honest think it's highly unlikely that the English dictionary has been worded poorly!
I think you're misunderstanding what they mean by the definition.

They are talking about discrimination in the social setting. Where a person is actively denied something due to their physical or personal attributes. No one is denying anyone anything by having lewd signs.
 
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