What is the point of hating our troops?

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Peter Parka

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Tru dat he's doing it in the privacy of his home.

The flag thing. It's the symbolizing of what it represents I guess. Kind of sacred to most.

I guess it depends where you come from, I know the USA takes abusing the flag a lot more personally that the UK. Personally I hate the Union Jack anyway and what it represents, I'm an English nationalist so I consider the St Georges Cross my national flag, not the Union Jack the same as the Welsh attach attention to the Welsh dragon and the Scots to the St Andrews cross first. I still think it would be wrong for me to go and burn any countries flag in public though apart from the Union Jack as a protest angainst Great British union but then thats just an outdated union which I have forced on me wether I like it or not.
 
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you really need to read up on your history...thousands upon thousands have died for their flag and what it represents to them...I don't expect you to understand that though
 

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you really need to read up on your history...thousands upon thousands have died for their flag and what it represents to them...I don't expect you to understand that though
Um, no. People have died for what the thought was right. No one wakes up in the morning and goes "man, I would really like to go and get shot for peice of multicolored cloth today!". People die to defend their families, their freinds, the person next to them. A stupid piece of cloth that has subjective meaning behind it is hardly a cause to die for.
 

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the flag represents our country and way of life...people join the military to protect that and will die for it...like I said I didn't expect you to understand
 

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the flag represents our country and way of life...people join the military to protect that and will die for it...like I said I didn't expect you to understand

Again, the flag's meaning is completely subjective.


No one goes to war with dying for a square piece of fabric in their heads. In fact, I'll go as far to say that soldiers throughout history probably didn't even think about their flag when under fire. They were thinking about staying alive and protecting the guy next to them. In the end, its what tyou are fighting to accomplish, not what identifying insignia your country happens to have flying on it's flagpoles.
 

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people will die to defend that flag...

Why would anyone do that? What's so great and meaningful about defending a piece of cloth which is one of many and easily replaced? Like I've said, I can understand people dying defending a cause or their country but dying to protect a piece of flag makes less sense that dying to defend your car!
 

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people will die to defend that flag...

Why would anyone do that? What's so great and meaningful about defending a piece of cloth which is one of many and easily replaced? Like I've said, I can understand people dying defending a cause or their country but dying to protect a piece of flag makes less sense that dying to defend your car!
But that car represents my freedom!!!! :p
 

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Flag protocol

Main article: Flag protocol
There is a great deal of protocol involved in the proper display of national flags. For example, national flags should never be flown upside down (where this is possible) except as a distress signal.


There are many regulations concerning the display of national flags, but the general rule is that the national flag should be flown in the position of honor, and not in an inferior position to any other flag (although some countries make an exception for royal standards). The following regulations are typical.

.....(continues) National flag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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What is the importance of the American flag?


The flag represents all those who stand together here in the USA who are upholding the same belief in liberty, freedom and the pursuit of happiness, in a nutshell, the US constitution, the best document in the world.

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Protect the Flag That Protected Me

By Stephen Ross

Citizens Flag Alliance

Fifty years ago, American soldiers saved me from the hell of Dachau. They nursed me back to health and restored my will to live. Yet, what I remember most of my liberation is my tears being spilled on a small American flag. From that day to this, my love for our flag has never faltered.

My story begins in 1940. When I was nine years old, the Germans took me from my home in Krasnik, Poland. For five years I was a prisoner of the Nazis in 10 death camps, where I saw thousands of men, women and children brutally murdered and starved or worked to death by the Nazi's death machine.

I lived on breadcrumbs, sawdust, human remains and one small prayer for redemption or death, whichever was quicker.

My prayers were answered on April 29, 1945, when the 42nd and 45th Infantry Divisions of the U.S. 7th Army liberated me from Dachau. We were nursed for several days by these war-weary, but compassionate men and women until we had enough strength to travel to Munich for additional medical attention.

As we walked ever so slowly and unsteadily toward our salvation, a young American tank commander -- whose name I have never known -- jumped off his tank to help us in whatever way he could.

When he saw that I was just a young boy, despite my gaunt appearance, he stopped to offer me comfort and compassion. He gave me his own food. He touched my withered body with his hands and his heart. His love instilled in me a will to live, and I fell at his feet and shed my first tears in five years.

He kneeled by my side and gently wiped them away with his handkerchief. It was only later, after he had gone, that I realized that his handkerchief was a small American flag, the first I had ever seen. It became my flag of redemption and freedom.

For more than 50 years I have cherished that flag. It represents the hope, freedom and life that the American soldiers returned to me when they found me, nursed me to health, and restored my faith in mankind. That is why today, I am working to help pass an amendment to the Constitution to protect our flag from physical desecration.

The memories of those heroes who liberated me will forever be a part of me. I show my gratitude to them for delivering me from hell every time I salute the flag that was theirs, and today is mine.

Even now, 50 years later, I am overcome with tears and gratitude whenever I see our glorious American flag because I know what it represents not only to me, but to millions around the world.

Perhaps only those who have had their humanity brutally torn from them as I did can fully appreciate this great country and what its flag represents. Yet every American, out of deference for the sacrifices that purchased and maintain their freedom, should revere and honor our flag.

Protest if you wish. Speak loudly, even curse our country and our flag, but, please, in the name of all those who died for our freedoms, don't physically harm what is so sacred to me and to countless others.

When you harm our flag, you violate my freedom to protect what once protected me, liberated me, restored my human dignity, and wiped away my tears. The price of desecration is too high; I support a constitutional amendment to preserve America's dignity, America's values, and America's flag. God bless America, and God bless our flag.
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The American flag stands for the fact that cloth can be very important. It is against the law to let the flag touch the ground or to leave the flag flying when the weather is bad. The flag has to be treated with respect. You can tell just how important this cloth is because when you compare it to people, it gets much better treatment. Nobody cares if a homeless person touches the ground. A homeless person can lie all over the ground all night long without anyone picking him up, folding him neatly and sheltering him from the rain. School children have to pledge loyalty to this piece of cloth every morning. No one has to pledge loyalty to justice and equality and human decency. No one has to promise that people will get a fair wage, or enough food to eat, or affordable medicine, or clean water, or air free of harmful chemicals. But we all have to promise to love a rectangle of red, white, and blue cloth. Betsy Ross would be quite surprised to see how successful her creation has become. But Thomas Jefferson would be disappointed to see how little of the flag's real meaning remains. Charlotte Aldebron, 12, wrote this essay for a competition in her 6th grade English class. She attended Cunningham Middle School in Presque Isle, Maine.
 
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