Regret you are repetitive ,,,I think I already answere all your queations!And again you dodge the issue of your culture practicing honor killings and the abuse of women.
mazHur.....I love insults. Poorly crafted ones, especially.
It shows how weak your arguments are and how desperate you are to divert the debate.
You need for them to be humorous, not humorless, to have any meaningful impact. Just copy me
Again, how do you rationalize the proclivity for violence against women that your culture supports?
( and this line of questioning goes directly to you opening post and is on topic.)
The Case of Captive Saudi Princesses.
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Pretty sure you don't
I think you're just trying to re-image yourself for the audience
So, you are blaming your culture's savagery on tribal history?
Doesn't this new admission really negate most of your previous claims about how Muslim women are considered in your culture? Your culture largely influenced by the savagery of it's historical background.
If so, and that the cradle of civilization is thought to have been in or at least near the Fertile Crescent, why has your culture stagnated while other civilizations progressed?
Is savagery a genetic memory?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_memory_(psychology)
Hard to blame it on the tribe when the genetics are likely responsible for there being a tribe.
So, is your culture hard wired for violence? That could be a possibility, but it wouldn't cover the morality/ethical issues.
Poverty?
Some of the worst abuse occurs in oil rich Muslim nations.
I think you need better excuses.
Or open your mind to change.
No, you were only presenting a better dodge.
Nothing there about moral and ethical considerations......just the physics of savagery.
We do not have multiple wives or husbands.
Sleeping with another is cheating...doesn't matter if a person has more than one spouse.
You guys cheat on your women and deny women the right to do the same.
Pretty sure you don't
I think you're just trying to re-image yourself for the audience
So, you are blaming your culture's savagery on tribal history?
Doesn't this new admission really negate most of your previous claims about how Muslim women are considered in your culture? Your culture largely influenced by the savagery of it's historical background.
If so, and that the cradle of civilization is thought to have been in or at least near the Fertile Crescent, why has your culture stagnated while other civilizations progressed?
Is savagery a genetic memory?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_memory_(psychology)
Hard to blame it on the tribe when the genetics are likely responsible for there being a tribe.
So, is your culture hard wired for violence? That could be a possibility, but it wouldn't cover the morality/ethical issues.
Poverty?
Some of the worst abuse occurs in oil rich Muslim nations.
I think you need better excuses.
Or open your mind to change.
come on, talk something new....you are now on to 'genetics' , huh! you don't even know that Pakistan was a part of India until '47 and both share almost the same genes ....
there are more Muslims in India , Bangla desh, Indonesia, etc , than Pakistan , You have No point to make,,,,come up with some sound argument instead of 'accusations'...
Rich countries are the worst aggressors .....and those are not Muslim countries. Guess out for yerself.
I think you have failed in your arguments and are turning around to hit below the belt through generalization and accusations.....and that's bad.
Do you allow your wives to sleep with others?? If not then how come you are not ashamed if your women folk sleep with others and commit adultery? That is bad and even against the teachings of your own scriptures which more than 50 % of American still stick to.
Our women are free to have sex with their husbands ....anytime, any manner, anywhere...
Our women are valued, their dignity is preserved and they are not converted into game...for men to screw them and make them nannies at younger age...
that is brutal...brutal, indeed.
Savagery is to kill and occupy someone else's land and resources ....are you sure you haven't done that or doing that?
Tell me why the US is hated in many countries of the world?
Again all you offer is a dodge to distance yourself from the issues your culture has with abuse of women.
Rich countries.....you're now blaming rich countries for your culture's abuse of women?
How so?
I think your desperate to distance yourself from facts as much as possible.
Why in the world did you start a thread on the abuse of women in the Muslim world?
Why compare the morality of the situation in your culture to different issues in my culture as an excuse for your culture's behavior? Makes no sense. You are what you are and it looks like you try to use western culture as some sort of scapegoat.
I really don't know why your culture abuses women and thinks it's moral.
Feeling guilty? Almost all my comments went to the Muslim culture. Go back and read my comments
Again you dodge the issue of why your culture thinks it's permissible to accept honor killings and the abuse of women.
I don't doubt Man will post something similar, but here goes anyway.
What the hell does that post have to do with the accepted abuse of women and honor killings, in your culture?
We can allow our bitches to sleep with others..without fear of death.
Or the bitch can go sleep with another man without consent...grounds for divorce but not death
You can mix and match all you want here as long as all are of legal age and willing.
So I could fuck your wife my wife and her sister at the same time while you watch.
You could learn something by watching a good american fucking.
Here we please our women.
Your culture not so much...fact is cutting the clit off women when they become of age to remember the agony is still practiced in your culture.
To view some good american pussy that has not been mutilated ...do some internet searches.
Additionally watch some videos of our bitches in action.
The sounds will be new...you will hear moans of pleasure...verses child screaming which is found in your culture.
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We can allow our bitches to sleep with others..without fear of death.
Or the bitch can go sleep with another man without consent...grounds for divorce but not death
You can mix and match all you want here as long as all are of legal age and willing.
So I could fuck your wife my wife and her sister at the same time while you watch.
You could learn something by watching a good american fucking.
[[[[[[ If you do that in Asia you might lose your neck!! We Muslims don''t have women of easy virtue, they are high precious for us and cannot be made game like you do in the fake name of freedom or equality of genders!! Baby, don't try to impose your whims on others ....to your yours to us ours, should be the best rule!]]]
Here we please our women.
Your culture not so much...fact is cutting the clit off women when they become of age to remember the agony is still practiced in your culture.
To view some good american pussy that has not been mutilated ...do some internet searches.
Additionally watch some videos of our bitches in action.
The sounds will be new...you will hear moans of pleasure...verses child screaming which is found in your culture.
[[[[so you admit you 'please' your women as if they cannot do that decently or artificially .....that's why they prefer to keep batteries of their toys always charged.
I don't need to watch American fucking ....have been to America several times and done that.....mind it we Indo-Pakistani's are excellent fuckers and can handle 4 (legally) and more (illegally) women at one time to their fullest satisfaction...
I doubt if you are any good even for one woman?]]]
[[[[[[Stone, you are just beating about the bush, generalizing and accusative. You don't even know that there are many sects and sub sects among Muslims and the aberrations of sorts you mentioned are not found in Pakistan. Of course a few cases of deviation from Quran do happen in Pakistan and elsewhere but those are forbidden and criminal ....and mainly due to cultural factors overshadowing Islamic teachings.
As for the case in Saudia that''s a different matter and cannot be spread over to Muslims all over the world....Saudia as i wrote you several times is a Monarchy (thanks to America!!) and they 'use' Islam to 'preserve' it ..]]]]]]
[[[[read your own history...President Jackson, for one. Honorable people respect others and don't fuck them like dogs (eventhough they don't have 'teeth'!
We can allow our bitches to sleep with others..without fear of death.
Or the bitch can go sleep with another man without consent...grounds for divorce but not death
You can mix and match all you want here as long as all are of legal age and willing.
So I could fuck your wife my wife and her sister at the same time while you watch.
You could learn something by watching a good american fucking.
[[[[[only a mothafucker would do that!!]]]]
Here we please our women.
Your culture not so much...fact is cutting the clit off women when they become of age to remember the agony is still practiced in your culture.
To view some good american pussy that has not been mutilated ...do some internet searches.
Additionally watch some videos of our bitches in action.
The sounds will be new...you will hear moans of pleasure...verses child screaming which is found in your culture.
Again you try to dodge the issue you brought to light in this form and desperately try to distance yourself from it .
Originally you claimed honor killings and abuse of women wasn't occurring and that Muslim women were treated like princesses.
You made the treatment of women a moral issue when comparing cultures and recently you've begun to admit your culture has these abusive traits but you blame other members of your own culture for those abuses. First poverty, then tribes, then the wealthy........while still putting the blame on not just western civilization, but specifically in your post above, the US.
Do you understand the concept of credibility and it's importance in a debate?
Even your denials are inconsistent.
So, by what moral authority does your culture accept the practice of honor killings and the abuse of women?
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And moral cultures don't commit honor killings and abuse their women as seen in your culture.
So, by what moral authority does your culture accept the practice of honor killings and the abuse of women?
Again you try to dodge the issue you brought to light in this form and desperately try to distance yourself from it .
Originally you claimed honor killings and abuse of women wasn't occurring and that Muslim women were treated like princesses.
You made the treatment of women a moral issue when comparing cultures and recently you've begun to accept your culture has these abusive traits but you blame other members of your own culture for those abuses. First poverty, then tribes, then the wealthy........while still putting the blame on not just western civilization, but specifically in your post above, the US.
[[[[ Read my posts again,,,,,,I had been telling you the Truth but you are again repetitive and accusative. If you have any question put it directly rather than blaming Muslims as a great nation and Islam being the second largest religion of the world after Christianity. Obviously it is not easy to attain that position unless there is good in it....You are only cherry picking oddities which directly relate to tribal, customary and cultural malice.....................andRemember nothing in this world is 100 percent...even YOU are not perfect.]]]]]
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Do you understand the concept of credibility and it's importance in a debate?
Even your denials are inconsistent.
So, by what moral authority does your culture accept the practice of honor killings and the abuse of women?
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