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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stan-using-Muslim-womens-cup-drink-water.html
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I wonder how many have died...not knowing they committed a crime against islam at the time of the act.

That and honor killings are problematic with the more fundamentalist of Islam
This article puts UN estimates ( in 2000 ) of honor killings at 5000 per year. But the article states that number might be realistic for Pakistan alone.

http://www.meforum.org/2646/worldwide-trends-in-honor-killings
 
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Articles like this abound on internet searches:



Muslim Honor Killings on the Rise in Britain

liveleak.com/view?i=948_1182098325
( sorry....use above line as a search. The full link keeps bringing up a graphic rather than the article associated with it )

Looks like Muslims have taken their horrific practices to England and are causing quite a problem there.

The string of deaths is likely to include some that were previously deemed suicides but have been found to be forced suicides and murder disguised as suicide.

A special unit has been created by the Foreign Office to travel around the world seeking British-born Asian women who have been forced into marriage. It operates mainly in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Kenya and Yemen. Officials from the local British embassy or consulate co-operate with police to identify these women and, if they are clearly being held against their will, bring them home to Britain.

Her charity sees almost 1,000 women each year who have been threatened with death, beaten, starved, kidnapped and brutalised by their families for refusing or escaping forced marriages.

The Qur'an doesn't sanction this, so why is it an Islamic cultural problem??
 
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Ha!! We Asians are more clever than you...simple, misled folks!
You have no idea how poor developed countries are ....mainly due to bad leadership, pesudo- democracy, unemployment and bad economic and poor law and justice system.
The states here don't lend us anything..nothing and we have to ply our own canoe through the rough seas of life or survival. You don't, therefore you suffer from apathy and misgivings about us ...

We travel to rich countries to make money!! You pay us good...good enough for a person who lives under $1 per diem!! Our learned folk live in America to make hay while the sun shines....if they work in their own country they would never be as rich as the poorest American or European! So, who doesn't want money?? They work in your country, abide by your laws and are paid well. Why then shouldn't they live and work there? Moreover, our men freely and easily get lovely blondes to test their manhood on them!! No blonde or brownie has ever been disappointed by our men....they have big 'toys; to please them all!


And, as far as women are concerned we love and care for them, we accept all of their responsibilities and those of our offsprings. We don't indulge in lechery and extra marital sex,,,,,because we are permitted to '
'contract' marriage with upto 4 women at a time!!
( though above is normally practiced but frankly some Muslims don't abide by religious tenets and they not only commit sin but also crime against the law of land)


No, you fella's don't love your women,,,that is a blatant lie. You just use them as sex mediums to satisfy your lust...( even some of your younger women may do that)...I have witnessed that as a young man as well as in my middle ages. Even today I get proposals from white women to marry them....but I tell them I am happy in my poor country where I can still live like a 'prince'...lotsa servants, luxurious house. good business profits, lotsa time to have fun with friends,,,,,it's just like living as you wish ( but of course by the law of land). Imagine who's more freer? You or me??Me, ofcourse!

Ha!! We Asians are more clever than you...simple, misled folks!
Thats an over generalization.
When we put man on the moon...you got indoor plumbing...I am just saying.

You have no idea how poor developed countries are ....mainly due to bad leadership, pesudo- democracy, unemployment and bad economic and poor law and justice system.
That sort of destroys you above statement...I mean if the people are so smart t why are they shit hole nations to live in.
The states here don't lend us anything..nothing and we have to ply our own canoe through the rough seas of life or survival. You don't, therefore you suffer from apathy and misgivings about us .
Sounds rough...here in my great country we help those in need...whether it is a guy that is crippled up...or some bitch having a baby out of wedlock
We travel to rich countries to make money!! You pay us good...good enough for a person who lives under $1 per diem!! Our learned folk live in America to make hay while the sun shines
But isnt it bothersome to be surrounded by whores drunks and gambling ...you are essentially going to sin city?

..Moreover, our men freely and easily get lovely blondes to test their manhood on them!! No blonde or brownie has ever been disappointed by our men....they have big 'toys; to please them all!

I see...so it is ok to whore here in the west..but not in the homeland.
So why should one be able to claim to be a Muslim if they aren't going to live like one?
offsprings.
And, as far as women are concerned we love and care for them, we accept all of their responsibilities and those of our
offsprings.

You dont sell someone you love...sorry.

No, you fella's don't love your women,,,that is a blatant lie.
While some may not..they are generally labeled as gay..but we never sell our children or have public floggings of our women because the wind blew the fabric and exposed the face.
Our bitches show there face.
But you guys do have an advantage as if the bitch is ugly her face is already covered.
 

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That and honor killings are problematic with the more fundamentalist of Islam
This article puts UN estimates ( in 2000 ) of honor killings at 5000 per year. But the article states that number might be realistic for Pakistan alone.

http://www.meforum.org/2646/worldwide-trends-in-honor-killings
I knew that have ruined sections of France..there are areas in France where there are no police allowed as those areas are reserved for Sharia.
They are often described as hell holes...very dangerous medics often refuse to go in...filthy places.
Britain appears to be heading that way too...give it a little time.
Yes Yes....pk..home of the Taliban with the practice of sharia...its not wonder the numbers are high.
 

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This is so God damn gruesome I'm done with this piece of shit thread.
Yes yes....it can cause nightmares its not for the weak...I guess if one grew up with with all the violence they would be used to it..nothing like having to go to the square to watch an execution before supper...and they wonder why the children turn out to be little killers?
Here son...throw this rock big rock at your sisters head she is a whore...good job son...she is dead now,I am so proud.
See son your sister was ugly and no one would buy her from me.....she finally ended up sleeping with a man as she gave in to the devil.
 

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This article puts UN estimates ( in 2000 ) of honor killings at 5000 per year. But the article states that number might be realistic for Pakistan alone.
It does seem the women are the bottom of the totem pole for sure.
Messed up for sure...how can one bring themselves to kill a female family member for such minor acts?
It appears the best thing for the women are to be bought and married at an early age and be legally screwing while still children or suffer the fate of father and brother for the wind blowing up the dress or similar.
 

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Iteresting read below.
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Frontpage’s editors have decided to rerun this article from yesterday’s issue due to the overwhelming interest and response it has received.

In the video below, we see a small number of Christians who gathered holding Christian signs at the 2012 Dearbor, Michigan Arab festival being assaulted by Muslims with bottles, stones, and other objects. The police do not protect the Christians or take action against the perpetrators; in the end, they reprimand the Christians and instruct them to leave. Ever since, there has been no coverage of this outrageous event in our media. Nor has CAIR or any other Muslim organization denounced the Muslims who abused the Christians.

One can’t help but wonder: If a small group of Muslims gathered in the U.S. somewhere with a few signs depicting Koranic verses, and a mass crowd of Christians or Jews began to assault them, verbally and physically, threatening violence and mayhem, would police tell the Muslims to leave, instead of acting against the perpetrators? And would the media be completely quiet about it? Would Muslim groups be silent about it after?

What if Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson gathered in a civil rights rally and they were surrounded and stoned by a mob of KKK supporters? Would the police show up and reprimand Sharpton and Jackson and instruct them to leave, all the while leaving the racist perpetrators untouched? And if this happened, would our media be completely silent about it? Would Anderson Cooper be completely silent every evening on CNN as he is at the moment about the stoning of the Christians in Dearborn?

We encourage our readers to watch the video and to ponder what is happening not only in the Middle East, but on the soil of the United States of America:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/ja...lims-stone-christians-in-dearborn-michigan-1/
 

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Articles like this abound on internet searches:



Muslim Honor Killings on the Rise in Britain

liveleak.com/view?i=948_1182098325
( sorry....use above line as a search. The full link keeps bringing up a graphic rather than the article associated with it )

Looks like Muslims have taken their horrific practices to England and are causing quite a problem there.







The Qur'an doesn't sanction this, so why is it an Islamic cultural problem??


Quran allows full liberty to adult women to choose their husbands and even propose them
Unfortunately, some Muslims suffer from 'cultural' influences and get the Quranic tenets confounded with it. These cultural and societal influences are impressed upon them due to Hindu caste discrimination and ancient tribal habits. So, when a Muslim family is 'let down' by any of their women which brings them disgrace things go as bad as you sometimes read in the media. Islam commands forgiveness is better than revenge. But tell me which of the religious followers of any faith observe that in full? Even the so called peaceful Buddhist are committing mass murder of Muslim minority in Mayanmar but who cares??


If the Japanese can commit Harakiri why not others do better to 'save their face'?? Actually the problem is with socio-cultural influences and its impact on some Muslims. This is one of the reasons Muslims aren't united and hostile even towards their brethren in faith. (Mind it Islam declares a universal Muslim brotherhood which NO other religion does).

Quran doesn't lay restriction on the freedom of women but certaily it is against lechery and abuse of sex and extra-marital sexual engagement of sexes. There are strict orders for men as well and they are NOT allowed to 'stare' or even have a second bad look at a woman stranger to them..However, Muslim men and women have full liberty to enjoy sex ....
this could be one reason for them to take more than one wife.
 

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Thats an over generalization.
When we put man on the moon...you got indoor plumbing...I am just saying.


That sort of destroys you above statement...I mean if the people are so smart t why are they shit hole nations to live in.

Sounds rough...here in my great country we help those in need...whether it is a guy that is crippled up...or some bitch having a baby out of wedlock

But isnt it bothersome to be surrounded by whores drunks and gambling ...you are essentially going to sin city?



I see...so it is ok to whore here in the west..but not in the homeland.
So why should one be able to claim to be a Muslim if they aren't going to live like one?
offsprings.


You dont sell someone you love...sorry.


While some may not..they are generally labeled as gay..but we never sell our children or have public floggings of our women because the wind blew the fabric and exposed the face.
Our bitches show there face.
But you guys do have an advantage as if the bitch is ugly her face is already covered.
sorry The Man, you talk tall.
To be true you white men have sadly made a whore of your women...you have made them to expose their faces and everything else to you men....you have turned them into 'private prostitutes' (sorry to say that as I don't find any other better word than that to quote)
On the other we Muslims are very possessive of our women, we respect them and hold them in high esteem. We marry them rather than go screwing them to satisfy our lust.
We don't turn them into blow jobbers at 12 or 14 or make them mothers of illicit babies at or near that age. Our religion, society or government doesn't want an army of bastards to be raised...
When there is a right way to do something why indulge in a wrong way to do the same??
this stands good for both Muslim men and women...It is another thing that some Muslims might not follow their religious or societal edicts and go wayward.

Should I say it is sooooo easy for our men to get hooked by your women. Why? I think you should be knowing that if you are a Man. I have friends who have been married to your women for the last 30 years or more and some have broken off after decades of wedlock.

You women find our men attractive and this is why our boys get 'hooked' by them easily.
I think if your government lifts the ban on polygamy each Muslim would be marrying 4 of your women and you will be left out only with gays!!

Let's not make women a tool of sexual pleasure only but give them the right 'title' they deserve ...respect and love. Of course you are afraid (and perhaps sick) of your Women
mainly because of your state laws otherwise I observed that generally you force them out of their virtuosity as you men alone are unfit to maintain them on your own.

Yes, as far as scientific progress is concerned You are ahead ......but why do you forget that it's we who mostly 'buy' your 'products' without which you will have only sex toys to play with!!
Have a nice day!
 

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sorry The Man, you talk tall.
To be true you white men have sadly made a whore of your women...you have made them to expose their faces and everything else to you men....you have turned them into 'private prostitutes' (sorry to say that as I don't find any other better word than that to quote)
On the other we Muslims are very possessive of our women, we respect them and hold them in high esteem. We marry them rather than go screwing them to satisfy our lust.
We don't turn them into blow jobbers at 12 or 14 or make them mothers of illicit babies at or near that age. Our religion, society or government doesn't want an army of bastards to be raised...
When there is a right way to do something why indulge in a wrong way to do the same??
this stands good for both Muslim men and women...It is another thing that some Muslims might not follow their religious or societal edicts and go wayward.

Should I say it is sooooo easy for our men to get hooked by your women. Why? I think you should be knowing that if you are a Man. I have friends who have been married to your women for the last 30 years or more and some have broken off after decades of wedlock.

You women find our men attractive and this is why our boys get 'hooked' by them easily.
I think if your government lifts the ban on polygamy each Muslim would be marrying 4 of your women and you will be left out only with gays!!

Let's not make women a tool of sexual pleasure only but give them the right 'title' they deserve ...respect and love. Of course you are afraid (and perhaps sick) of your Women
mainly because of your state laws otherwise I observed that generally you force them out of their virtuosity as you men alone are unfit to maintain them on your own.
We don't turn them into blow jobbers at 12 or 14 or make them mothers of illicit babies at or near that age. Our religion, society or government doesn't want an army of bastards to be raised
Sex with children here will land you in prison...it is very highly frowned upon...not saying it doesnt happen but it not a widespread problem.
We do not sell out children as they do abroad to be sexually abused by the purchaser....its essentially slavery



Yes, as far as scientific progress is concerned You are ahead ......but why do you forget that it's we who mostly 'buy' your 'products' without which you will have only sex toys to play with!!
Have a nice day!

To be true you white men have sadly made a whore of your women...you have made them to expose their faces and everything else to you men....you have turned them into 'private prostitutes'

A woman showing her face hardly makes her a whore by western standards.
What we have is a religious/ cultural clash here.
If you remember we were talking about women's rights...Yes?
What gives yo the right to walk around showing your face and a woman cant do the same?
That is just one example of how a woman is highly discriminated against in areas....you dont see it as it how you were taught.
On the other we Muslims are very possessive of our women, we respect them and hold them in high esteem. We marry them rather than go screwing them to satisfy our lust
Translated it means you have to marry someone to get a piece of tail....but do you?
No..the man can whore..but the woman cant.
We sure dont hear of men being punished from abroad for having sex out of wedlock...its the women..again they are not treated the same.
You have the possessive part right though.

When there is a right way to do something why indulge in a wrong way to do the same??
this stands good for both Muslim men and women...It is another thing that some Muslims might not follow their religious or societal edicts and go wayward.

The right way is for both be willing to marry....here we dont buy our brides and certainly not children.
Truth is..here is the states if one was to ask to buy a man little girl..he would more than likely beat him to death just for asking..I would expect a serious assault to happen in about 75 percent of the cases..a good yelling in 24.99 percent of the cases and an actual consideration of selling the child of about one in 10 thousand.
Our cultures are nothing alike maz.................even our puke as liberals here would never agree to child slavery /marriage.
Your culture is nothing like ours....back when our country was young we denied entry to arabs for the most part...as the cultures were to far apart.
I have no problem with that...I do not mind the women coming here to escape the abuse however if they want to be American.


Should I say it is sooooo easy for our men to get hooked by your women. Why?

So if are women are so easy to get hooked on...why not let your women live as our women do?
You have just shown a free woman to be a better woman.
You guys suppress your bitches terribly.
A woman prides herself on looks..the prepping and primping for a long time..take hours shopping for clothes..making the house look a certain way..dressing the babies a certain way...a woman is all about visuals and arts.
Your culture denies all of everything a woman is..by making them cover their face and go in the other room not to be seen...we treat our dogs better...I am serious.
You deny women any individuality,expression,opinion,etc....you deny them life itself.
Your culture is so fucked up and has been pounded into your people heads for so long you cant even see it.
No disrespect intended...we are both products of what we were taught.
My culture allows me free thought and expression your does not...not only for the women the men are just as fucked up as they think it is "proper"
You women find our men attractive and this is why our boys get 'hooked' by them easily.
WOW.
Its actually more pity...women here tend to have sympathy and give everyone a chance.
I think if your government lifts the ban on polygamy each Muslim would be marrying 4 of your women and you will be left out only with gays!!
LOL
But that does bring a point...why is it your culture allows men to have multiple partners...but women cant.
So you can be a whore...but kill women for doing the same?
See thing is you might even agree with me...but you cant say anything as you could risk severe punishment for doing so.
 
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sorry The Man, you talk tall.
To be true you white men have sadly made a whore of your women...you have made them to expose their faces and everything else to you men....you have turned them into 'private prostitutes' (sorry to say that as I don't find any other better word than that to quote)
On the other we Muslims are very possessive of our women, we respect them and hold them in high esteem. We marry them rather than go screwing them to satisfy our lust.
We don't turn them into blow jobbers at 12 or 14 or make them mothers of illicit babies at or near that age. Our religion, society or government doesn't want an army of bastards to be raised...
When there is a right way to do something why indulge in a wrong way to do the same??
this stands good for both Muslim men and women...It is another thing that some Muslims might not follow their religious or societal edicts and go wayward.

Should I say it is sooooo easy for our men to get hooked by your women. Why? I think you should be knowing that if you are a Man. I have friends who have been married to your women for the last 30 years or more and some have broken off after decades of wedlock.

You women find our men attractive and this is why our boys get 'hooked' by them easily.
I think if your government lifts the ban on polygamy each Muslim would be marrying 4 of your women and you will be left out only with gays!!

Let's not make women a tool of sexual pleasure only but give them the right 'title' they deserve ...respect and love. Of course you are afraid (and perhaps sick) of your Women
mainly because of your state laws otherwise I observed that generally you force them out of their virtuosity as you men alone are unfit to maintain them on your own.

Yes, as far as scientific progress is concerned You are ahead ......but why do you forget that it's we who mostly 'buy' your 'products' without which you will have only sex toys to play with!!
Have a nice day!


So.....what is your purpose at this site, promote your culture?
Or just practice being a blowhard?
You are a culture of wife beaters.
And you hate us because of our beautiful blonde women :D
We're wealthy, fed well, have healthy smiling children and sing songs of joy at the local mall.
I not only drive a better car than you, I own more of them.
And for every car I own, I have two color matched motorcycles.
I was even looking at a new one today, but couldn't decide what color my next Ferrari was to be.
Maybe the same color as my King Air, white with a red racing stripe :D
I spend my days in the lap of luxury and think happy thoughts as my wife caresses me. :D

Even the poorest here live better than you ( Oh Noes! )

I've got mine ;)

Think of me as you belligerently order your wife to sweep the ever drifting sand off the steps of your miserable state subsidized apartment and then order her to plaster and paint over the fresh bullet holes in your 5x10 man cave.
So have another draw on that hookah and dream of better times, all those many centuries ago ( so sad )

Just kidding.......of course ;)
 
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