Should Same Sex Couples Be Allowed To Adopt?

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SgtSpike

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pornography isnt wrong.. pornography is the real reason photography and film making got so big
Lol, so if film making and photography makes money off of it, it makes it right? Last time I checked, Hollywood didn't get to determine right from wrong.

Pornography is wrong for many reasons, but we should start a new thread for that.
 
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You actually are saying ..and in your owns words..that by GOD it is unacceptable??You quoted the bible??

And Gods holy spirit IS in us all...we are all his children.
 

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I never said God didn't love homosexuals the same way he loves everyone else - He does. And I'm purely expressing my own viewpoint based on my interpretation of the Bible. I could be wrong, so don't blame God for that, blame me. :)

And God's Holy Spirit is not in us all... it is only in those who have trusted Him as their saviour.

Actually, if you believe the Bible, god quite clearly hates homosexuals.
 

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Lol, so if film making and photography makes money off of it, it makes it right? Last time I checked, Hollywood didn't get to determine right from wrong.

Pornography is wrong for many reasons, but we should start a new thread for that.


why is it not wrong.. its harmelss pleasure.. it only gets wrong if it involves children.. or ppl who are not concenting... apart form that where it is wrong? now u cant tell me u have never watched porn and if u have then ur statement makes ur a hypocrit
 

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why is it not wrong.. its harmelss pleasure.. it only gets wrong if it involves children.. or ppl who are not concenting... apart form that where it is wrong? now u cant tell me u have never watched porn and if u have then ur statement makes ur a hypocrit
It's lust, which by the Bible's standards is wrong. If you disagree with me that's fine, I'm just saying that what I believe about it and why. :)
 

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you can believe what u want to believe love.. im not religious.. on the grand scale of things..there are far worse things u can do than watch a bit of porn
 

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It's lust, which by the Bible's standards is wrong. If you disagree with me that's fine, I'm just saying that what I believe about it and why. :)

People judging others by a work of fiction is wrong but I don't rub your nose in it or tell you not to read or believe the bible. If you want to live in a fantasy world go ahead; it's completely your right and I have no right to stop you, no more than you have a right to decide what's wrong for others. Stay the fuck out of other peoples' bedrooms!

That's what pisses me off most about holy-rollers. They are so fucking judgemental, sitting up on their self-imposed, self-righteous pedestals, looking down their snotty noses at others and feeling fucking superior about their fucking bible as if it's the only worthy moral code in the world! Judge not and you will not be judged! :mad
 

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People judging others by a work of fiction is wrong but I don't rub your nose in it or tell you not to read or believe the bible. If you want to live in a fantasy world go ahead; it's completely your right and I have no right to stop you, no more than you have a right to decide what's wrong for others. Stay the fuck out of other peoples' bedrooms!

That's what pisses me off most about holy-rollers. They are so fucking judgemental, sitting up on their self-imposed, self-righteous pedestals, looking down their snotty noses at others and feeling fucking superior about their fucking bible as if it's the only worthy moral code in the world! Judge not and you will not be judged! :mad

wow and thats you told.. no i belive that ur entitled to you opinion.. if ur very religous.. then yes the bible tells u homosexuality is wrong and thats what u believe and that is fine... but this should not dictate the rights of homosexuals to adopt
 

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People judging others by a work of fiction is wrong but I don't rub your nose in it or tell you not to read or believe the bible. If you want to live in a fantasy world go ahead; it's completely your right and I have no right to stop you, no more than you have a right to decide what's wrong for others. Stay the fuck out of other peoples' bedrooms!

That's what pisses me off most about holy-rollers. They are so fucking judgemental, sitting up on their self-imposed, self-righteous pedestals, looking down their snotty noses at others and feeling fucking superior about their fucking bible as if it's the only worthy moral code in the world! Judge not and you will not be judged! :mad
I was just giving my opinion that pornography is wrong, I wasn't judging anyone.
 

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It's lust, which by the Bible's standards is wrong. If you disagree with me that's fine, I'm just saying that what I believe about it and why. :)

i'm just curious here
this is not a trick question :cool
is there a difference between passion and lust?

i ask because a passionate person is oftentimes synomous with someone who has a "lust for life", imo....i don't pretend to be as familiar with the bible as you must be, but so much of the moral code within it -at least a good portion that dominates the discussions here and on other forums- seems to revolve around human sexuality

and i'd imagine that a "lust for life" is generally considered a good thing, perhaps even by many christains, tho it must, of course, be inclusive of one's sexuality....at least for me.

but it's meaning is not specific to that....teachers can be passionate in their desire to see kids learn...woodworkers can be passionate about their craft.....somebody like van gogh or gauguin might be considered passionate about their art....which probably means -if van gogh is the example- that passion can be a tricky quality.

einstein was passionate
so was jesus

is it just that, from your frame of reference, lust has negative connotations....perhaps there's a quality of selfishness in lust?

i'm just thinking out loud here.....but i'd be interested in an answer to my question, trying to unravel the mystery of porn :nod:
 

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The only thing wrong with porn is the sexism some (or a lot) of it. Aside from that it's completely healthy and should be encouraged.
 

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ooooh man
if lusting is wrong
AND porn is wrong
I so gotta one way ticket to hell.
I'll be the hawt chic with the beer stand ;)
 

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2 scenarios spring to mind here

no1...hetrosexual married couple living in a trailor........she is the sole wage earner cleaning in a diner......he's an unwashed slob who does nothing but swill the beer back all day.....the 5 dogs are constantly barking and the rusty pick up needs work badly.....adopting would be extra income

no 2.....homosexual couple living in a 5 bedroomed house.....but are succesful in what they do with higher than average earnings.....the pool out back gets cleaned regularly and both drive new 4 x 4's...neither drink or do drugs and they both crave parenthood

who should adopt?
 

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i'm just curious here
this is not a trick question :cool
is there a difference between passion and lust?
Hi, siasl....
I have an opinion on your question.... not necessarily an answer...

To me... lust is strictly wanting (wanton) something to fulfill an immediate or not long lasting self need. I consider it sexual only.... I don't think one can lust for chocolate or money or fame..... IMO.

You can have desires for many things... like chocolate, money, fame.... whatever. But lust is sexual and short lived.

Passion..... Gawd do I love passion.... Passion can encompass just about everything a person wants.... needs.... desires.... wishes for....

To have passion is to feel alive and sensual.

I've had a kiss (and given that kiss back) that was so passionate it took my breath away literally.... nothing more was needed... that moment was like an earthquake of the soul... bringing on a weakness so strong that all else was blocked....

.... and I'm talking just a kiss.....

I've had sex just as passionate that was all consuming.... sorry no details....

Passion for your kids, your SO, your job, your talents, your life period..... is something everyone should experience.... If not....

Anyway.... that's my opinion .....





BTW.... regarding porn.... I can take it or leave it.... my mind has a vivid imagination.... and well.... that's all I have to say about that..... :D
 

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2 scenarios spring to mind here

no1...hetrosexual married couple living in a trailor........she is the sole wage earner cleaning in a diner......he's an unwashed slob who does nothing but swill the beer back all day.....the 5 dogs are constantly barking and the rusty pick up needs work badly.....adopting would be extra income

no 2.....homosexual couple living in a 5 bedroomed house.....but are succesful in what they do with higher than average earnings.....the pool out back gets cleaned regularly and both drive new 4 x 4's...neither drink or do drugs and they both crave parenthood

who should adopt?

I'd rather see a responsible gay couple bringing up kids than some of the chavvy, piss head single mums I see round here all too often who pop out kids like there's no tomorrow.:nod:
 

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What if a couple has a child, then get a divorce because one of them realizes they're gay? It's happened before. Should they not be allowed to see their own child? I don't see a difference between that and gay adoption.
 

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Hi, siasl....
I have an opinion on your question.... not necessarily an answer...

To me... lust is strictly wanting (wanton) something to fulfill an immediate or not long lasting self need. I consider it sexual only.... I don't think one can lust for chocolate or money or fame..... IMO.

You can have desires for many things... like chocolate, money, fame.... whatever. But lust is sexual and short lived.

Passion..... Gawd do I love passion.... Passion can encompass just about everything a person wants.... needs.... desires.... wishes for....

To have passion is to feel alive and sensual.

I've had a kiss (and given that kiss back) that was so passionate it took my breath away literally.... nothing more was needed... that moment was like an earthquake of the soul... bringing on a weakness so strong that all else was blocked....

.... and I'm talking just a kiss.....

I've had sex just as passionate that was all consuming.... sorry no details....

Passion for your kids, your SO, your job, your talents, your life period..... is something everyone should experience.... If not....

Anyway.... that's my opinion .....





BTW.... regarding porn.... I can take it or leave it.... my mind has a vivid imagination.... and well.... that's all I have to say about that..... :D
Yep, the greek words for lust always talk about it in a sexual manner in the Bible. So, it is talking about sexual lust, and more specifically about lusting over a woman who is not your wife. But, enough about that topic because it's not what this thread is about. :)
 
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