Should Same Sex Couples Be Allowed To Adopt?

[lumpenstein]

I was just giving my opinion that pornography is wrong, I wasn't judging anyone.

No, you are wrong. You are giving somebody else's opinion. You are merely parroting all the brainwashing you have been fed. If you think that was an original thought you had, you are very very wrong.

Let me correct your signature for you:

The biggest problem in America today is that people, especially young people, will believe anything the fundies tells them, including me.​

 

[wednesday]

No, you are wrong. You are giving somebody else's opinion. You are merely parroting all the brainwashing you have been fed. If you think that was an original thought you had, you are very very wrong.

Let me correct your signature for you:

:24::24:Ohhh snap

 

[SgtSpike]

No, you are wrong. You are giving somebody else's opinion. You are merely parroting all the brainwashing you have been fed. If you think that was an original thought you had, you are very very wrong.

Let me correct your signature for you:

Just because it's someone else's opinion does not mean it cannot be my own. If you truly believe that, then very few people in this world actually have "opinions" at all.

 

[bethannkish]

i think same sex couple should be allowed to adopt.I also think it should be made easier for same sex couples to adopt. It would be an opportunity for more chilren with out homes to be placed in loving enviroments. If you think about it gay women are allowed to have invitro, so why now give them the opportunity to take in kids who are already born and need good homes.

 

[dazner]

I'm lovin' this thread!

 

[Fox Mulder]

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No, you are wrong. You are giving somebody else's opinion. You are merely parroting all the brainwashing you have been fed. If you think that was an original thought you had, you are very very wrong.

Let me correct your signature for you:

Just because it's someone else's opinion does not mean it cannot be my own. If you truly believe that, then very few people in this world actually have "opinions" at all.

Normally, I would say that lumpenstein's opinions are worthless. However, he is an EXPERT on pornograpy (he has the largest collection in north america) so listen to him on that topic!!! :24::24::24:

 

[Fox Mulder]

is there a difference between passion and lust?

Big difference. Passion can be for many things. Lust would be like what Wookie and Pink and Bed Ryder and Wednesday feel for Mulder! :cool

 

[siasl]

Big difference. Passion can be for many things. Lust would be like what Wookie and Pink and Bed Ryder and Wednesday feel for Mulder! :cool

i don't think you heard 'em right when they were talking about you.....
they said disgust, fox.......
you're right about the "for many things" part tho :clap

 

[All Else Failed]

absolutely. There's no valid argument against it.

 

[wednesday]

Big difference. Passion can be for many things. Lust would be like what Wookie and Pink and Bed Ryder and Wednesday feel for Mulder! :cool

Yer, Mulder...i see what you mean now about the internet not being REAL!!!:cool

 

[Hans]

What if a couple has a child, then get a divorce because one of them realizes they're gay? It's happened before. Should they not be allowed to see their own child? I don't see a difference between that and gay adoption.

If the stress in the break up traumitizes or risks the childs well being, yes, it should go to whoever would best care for the child. The childs opinions should be evaluated.

The fact is adoption should be the BEST interest of the child. For most of the circumstances, there are straight couples who would want to adopt. For better or worse, a child growing up in a socially normal household setting is the best interest of the child.

The only thing that would prove me otherwise is adoption houses versus homosexual couples adopting a child, but I feel as if this subject leans more on the latter.

absolutely. There's no valid argument against it.

except for the various valid arguements already potsed? My feelings have been stated, but I do not feel like the pro-homosexual adoption group is by any means using poor logic. I just feel as if they are putting the homosexual couples before the child.

 

[All Else Failed]

At this time, there is in no way that this should be allowed. There have been multiple historical, psychological, and all sorts of other tests that show potential trouble with 1 parent or 2 of the same sex parents. One of the more obvious reasons is that you expose your child to unnatural, or at the very least, an anti-social norm at a very young age. On top of that, at a young age they will be laughed at, talked about, and parents will talk down on their parents about your adopted child.

As for my original statement, you can read a ton of Roman-eqsue history stories where a father dies early, or isnt around to help raise their son. A good portion of terrible times in Rome(as well as other places, but Rome is the easiest to cite) are accounted to this. Nero, whos adpoted uncle was Claudis (Tiberius Drusus) was never around/probably crazy, and failed to raise him. Nero almost destroyed the Roman empire single handedly. Claudius himself had the exact same similar situation, as did numerous others. There are also many psych tests that also draw hypothesis that show 80% of children raised by single/same sexed parents will develop social issues later on.

Obviously some children will be fine, but adoption is not for everyone. The only way I can see it even being NEAR the best interest of the CHILD (not the couple, adoption should NEVER for ANY reason be about the couple) is it if WANTS to be with a homosexual couple, and understands the social strain he will probably endure. No teen can probably make ths until 16 years old, but then its hardly a child anyways.

show me this evidence. Now.


Oh and homosexuality is absolutely natural, since it occurs in nature. Nothing humans do can ever be unnatural.

I know several gay couples that are raising children, mostly boys. They're pretty damn manly and they are very popular with the ladies, if you want to know.

 

[All Else Failed]

1)Two gay men is not a father figure. A father figure is the run of the mill "lets go play a game of catch and talk about girls". I am not saying that two gay are any less of a father, but it is not the norm.
2)I picked roman as an example, I could pick at on of historical sources to show flaws in children of single parents. this is to show its nothing new, evne if times change.
3)I never said society was pretty. Infact I said life is hard. However, in most every single society (I cant think of an Angellical society where this wouldnt take place) you will rub elbows with someone who will not approve of your parents, and you will feel the impact in one way or another.
4)Im not saying adoption isnt for everyone, i feel as though homosexual couples, despite how "ready" they are will NEVER be the best choice for the CHILD. The couple obviously must be positive they are ready, but I assume thats given most of the time.

To answer your question, Id say the question should be Adoption vs Orphanages. Even then, I do not know enough about the latter to make a fair claim. Sorry for the dis-oranged numbering of responses, I am exhausted

1) lol maybe if you think a father figure can only fit into one form.
2) So you can cite a few examples of kids a thousand years ago that had some problems. Gee, that sounds relevant. Homosexuality was vastly accepted in the Greco/Roman world.
3) w/e not important
4) Um, newsflash: Most couples aren't the best choice for a child.

 

[dazner]

absolutely. There's no valid argument against it.

then why in texas is there a law prohibiting it? :nod:

 

[Peter Parka]

then why in texas is there a law prohibiting it? :nod:

Since when has Texas been a rational state?:24::surrender

 

[All Else Failed]

then why in texas is there a law prohibiting it? :nod:

I think you know the answer to that.

 

[Hans]

1) lol maybe if you think a father figure can only fit into one form.
2) So you can cite a few examples of kids a thousand years ago that had some problems. Gee, that sounds relevant. Homosexuality was vastly accepted in the Greco/Roman world.
3) w/e not important
4) Um, newsflash: Most couples aren't the best choice for a child.

1)try to show two gay men or two lesbian females and see if the mainstream public or adpotion agencies will consider them a proper father/mother figure
2)I could site some stories of modern day children, but the fact is the connection of past and present. times change, people dont.
3)yes it is
4)ignornat assumption of a stereotype


Ill admit I am wrong whenever you can prove that a homosexual couple IS THE BETTER CHOICE FOR THE CHILD.

Most all the time it is not. Period. Game over. Done. Bye.

 

[Peter Parka]

1)try to show two gay men or two lesbian females and see if the mainstream public or adpotion agencies will consider them a proper father/mother figure

What's their sexuality got to do with them being good parents? The issue should be about how good parents they would be, not about whether a prejudiced and ignorant public likes it. Nothing to do with them, it's to do with the child and the people who are going to adopt.

 

[All Else Failed]

1)try to show two gay men or two lesbian females and see if the mainstream public or adpotion agencies will consider them a proper father/mother figure
2)I could site some stories of modern day children, but the fact is the connection of past and present. times change, people dont.
3)yes it is
4)ignornat assumption of a stereotype


Ill admit I am wrong whenever you can prove that a homosexual couple IS THE BETTER CHOICE FOR THE CHILD.

Most all the time it is not. Period. Game over. Done. Bye.

gay home > no home


I'll admit I'm wrong when you can find the perfect family, straight or gay, for every child on the planet. See how this works?


really though, besides being picked on a bit in school, what exactly is negative about gays adopting kids?

 

[peacefulbydesig]

If they are able to provide a safe, stable home forthe child why not? There are so many children being raised in institutions if we can put them into an actual home all the better.