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this might also provide you with some answer..

 
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From what I've read of the Koran, it's a lot like the Bible as it is in the interpretation of the written word. Most Christians feel the Koran is a book of hate and killing your enemies, but the same can be said for the Old Testament IMO.
If Christians followed the old testament they would be sicker than those in the Mideast.
Thank god for the new testament.
 

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As I've said, it's a lot like the Bible.

I would still like to know, in your own words, who is the one to judge others in the name of Allah?
 

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Buster, I am not an Indian or a Hindu.
U surely are an idiot..
I dont know what you are..but you have expressed your fascination with the big burly black dog..and have admitted to much travel outside your locale.
 

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If Christians followed the old testament they would be sicker than those in the Mideast.
Thank god for the new testament.

There are a lot of people that live by the Old Testament.

When we were looking for a church in North Carolina, I got kind of tired of the Baptist telling me why I was going to hell.
 

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You'll have to forgive my ignorance.

I read your link, but I'm still perplexed as to who actually judges the sinner?

Are you cursed by the act of sin alone? If that is the case, can the curse be "un done" (meaning if you're cursed and there is no hope for redemption, why try to redeem yourself?).

From what I've read of the Koran, it's a lot like the Bible as it is in the interpretation of the written word. Most Christians feel the Koran is a book of hate and killing your enemies, but the same can be said for the Old Testament IMO.


yes, there is a way out and that is Repentance..
Once a Muslim repents before Allah or God and doesn't repeat the sin again he might be emancipated from wrath of God in future and the hereafter.

If Quran was a book of hate it wouldn't have more than a billion followers in every nook and corner of the world. Moreover, it is the most read Book in the world too.

There do seem to occur some controversies over interpretation of some verses and it is this that gives a wrong hue to Islam

Yes, the Quran seems to be the latest or final 'edition' of Bible..and all revealed scriptures.

there is more to it and it is not possible for me to explain it all on this place , However, you can google for some good link or check wiki for more info
 

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There are a lot of people that live by the Old Testament.

When we were looking for a church in North Carolina, I got kind of tired of the Baptist telling me why I was going to hell.


Without accountability no one will go to hell or heaven...
Islam emphasizes actions,,,and heaven or hell or even divine reward or punishment depends on one's actions. But this is not necesary because Allah also says he rewards whomever He wills....
 

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ran where?? You are already headed for hell!!
The old testament is just that..."Old"
The new testament is now used...although it does reference the old testament in places.
You mention hell.
Are we not all going to hell maz?...show me one perfect person.
 

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yes, there is a way out and that is Repentance..
Once a Muslim repents before Allah or God and doesn't repeat the sin again he might be emancipated from wrath of God in future and the hereafter.

If Quran was a book of hate it wouldn't have more than a billion followers in every nook and corner of the world. Moreover, it is the most read Book in the world too.

There do seem to occur some controversies over interpretation of some verses and it is this that gives a wrong hue to Islam

Yes, the Quran seems to be the latest or final 'edition' of Bible..and all revealed scriptures.

there is more to it and it is not possible for me to explain it all on this place , However, you can google for some good link or check wiki for more info

Ultimately I view the Koran as I do the Bible, words of love and learning from one God.

That said, NO man can determine who is going to Heaven or Hell, that is for God alone to decide.

Allah may curse people, but no man knows for a fact who Allah has cursed.
 

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Without accountability no one will go to hell or heaven...
Islam emphasizes actions,,,and heaven or hell or even divine reward or punishment depends on one's actions. But this is not necesary because Allah also says he rewards whomever He wills....

Sincere question…

Is the whole virgin thing true as in they're waiting for you in heaven, or is that just western propaganda?

The reason I ask is it makes no sense that one would have sex in Heaven, or perhaps is that just me? LMAO
 

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Ultimately I view the Koran as I do the Bible, words of love and learning from one God.

That said, NO man can determine who is going to Heaven or Hell, that is for God alone to decide.

Allah may curse people, but no man knows for a fact who Allah has cursed.


it's not a matter of cussing...the issue in point that as criminals are kept in seclusion by men themselves the deviates too must be kept in seclusion in a sanatorium or in some Gitmo type area where they can choose to do whatever they liked
 

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Sincere question…

Is the whole virgin thing true as in they're waiting for you in heaven, or is that just western propaganda?

The reason I ask is it makes no sense that one would have sex in Heaven, or perhaps is that just me? LMAO


Good question, I liked it.

No one knows whether he will go to heaven or hell...
As God is Almighty, Omni science etc etc it's for HIM to decide ...in the short or the long run.

Nobody has returned from heaven or hell to tell us what happened there therefore general presumption is that the houris referred to are without 'holes' ....therefore the question of sex is excluded in the hereafter?

It's also nonsense that anybody killing others will get 72 houris in heaven...if it was like that all the Taliban rascals would inhabit heaven and us North Pole !!
 

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it's not a matter of cussing...the issue in point that as criminals are kept in seclusion by men themselves the deviates too must be kept in seclusion in a sanatorium or in some Gitmo type area where they can choose to do whatever they liked

Hopefully if a evil man comes across a righteous man, the righteous man previals.
 

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Breaking news

Terrorists have attacked Karachi International Airport and destroyed one cargo plane. Reports are that they have also captured one passenger plane but no details are yet available.
Army has taken over the control of the airport
3 terrorists have been killed , 7 are still resisting. 3 security personnel have also been shot dead and some more injured.
Airport has been closed for all flights..

more...

cross firing is on,,,,,the terrorists have not been subdued yet,

here is more..
source: https://www.facebook.com/Haz855
Karachi Airport Update:
At least 15 terrorists have conducted the attack, while backup was provided by many others from Pehelwan Goth and Bathai Abad area located around the airport. Terrorists are speaking in Pushtu and have satellite phones or walky talkies to be used for communication. At least 2 aeroplanes have been destroyed while terrorists have taken over one of the passenger plane. At least 8 aeroplanes were present for refeuling when the attack took place, which means that there is a huge amount of fuel available in the oil terminal also. They have taken over the ISPAHANI hanger.
The attackers were wearing uniforms of Airport Security Force (ASF) while some of the attackers entered dressed up as caterers.
At least 5 officials of ASF,CAA have been killed including 1 PIA employee.
MQM head Farooq Sattar is also present in one of the planes of Emirates Airline, which is currently standing on the runway. Farooq Sattar is calm but concerned fearing attack on the plane.
At least 6 pilgrims from Iran have also been confirmed dead in firing incident.
Army has been called in at the airport. It might take at least 14 hours for the operation.
The attack was conducted from the VVIP, Haj, Cargo terminal also called old airport, opposite to who is CIA head quater is also located.
Ramada Inn Hotel and Schon private flying institute is also located closeby.
 
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Hopefully if a evil man comes across a righteous man, the righteous man previals.
Not necessarily,,,maybe that evil man had some qualities which the pious man lacked? It's only for God to decide....
Were it not so there wouldn't be pious men lingering in misery while evil men flourishing in this maddening world ....
 

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Sincere question…

Is the whole virgin thing true as in they're waiting for you in heaven, or is that just western propaganda?

The reason I ask is it makes no sense that one would have sex in Heaven, or perhaps is that just me? LMAO
the Quran clearly states: the killing of one innocent person is the murder of entire humanity.
NO way killers will be saved from God's wrath..
 

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