Every bit of that could have come from a single punch that knocked GZ to the sidewalk
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Every bit of that could have come from a single punch that knocked GZ to the sidewalk
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Hurt back as well...go read the reports troll
Yes, "directly responsible". If Zimmerman hadn't have gotten out of the SUV and decided to go against his training as a "watchman" and the request of the police dispatcher, we wouldn't be having this conversation. As such, Zimmerman is "directly responsible" for the altercation and ensuing death of Trayvon Martin.
Ok....you are either plain stupid or a troll as well/
Love it though....you people post some stupid shit.
Still sucking on an empty hook left by jesse and the gang.
Minor Axis
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What if Martin feared for his life, managing to pull the gun out of Zimmerman's possession and shot Zimmerman? Of course Martin would have been arrested on the spot, but if I read it right, according to this STUPID law, it could be used to justify his actions too.
In the 2 people, 2 gun scenario, in a fight, it seems like the best course of action is to kill the other guy first.
I find it absolutely hilarious that TSM is now banding about the word "troll" in his responses. LOL.
Kakapo Dundee
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Get real, just for a little while.
Zimmerman has very little chance of walking away from this unless he can make a claim of self-defence. His lawyers know this and will be doing their best coaching to ensure that every little bump and bruise that he sustained is release as a life-threatening injury. The forensic evidence from his victim is not consistent with the claims of injury made by the defence camp, they are far more consistent with the facts, namely Zimmerman required minimal medical attention at the scene of the crime.
Kakapo Dundee
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again, no substance. Your response to any reasonable scenario that could explain the evidence in a manner that doesn't fit your prejuduce is to post abuse.
If someone dellivers a very hard punch - with the force to break your nose - when not braced for it, it's quite possible that you would lose your balance and fall backwards. If you are standing on a concrete sidewalk and you fall flat on your back, you could very well suffer a fairly decent laceration to the back of your head and possible bruises or other injury to your back muscles or ribs.
Is that somehow not plausible in your opinion?
Are you trying to equate directly responsible to guilt....spit it out
Kakapo Dundee
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It's very plausible, that's why he wants it squashed before it gets traction. If it's the truth, his whole case for the defence just collapsed.
He had minor abrasions to his face as well{in addition to 2 black eyes fat lips and a broken nose}..as well as multiple injuries to the back of his head}
So no,there is no chance...why is it so hard for you to accept that martin beat the shit out of him?...rather that post this far fetched bullshit?
This is a serious question by the way
Kakapo Dundee
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I will. If you are directly responsible for starting a fight, the notion that you can then escalate a fight,shoot an unarmed man and claim self defence is laughable.
Since you have no evidence that Martin was doing anything other than minding his own business, it's a scenario that you have to consider plausible......unless your only interest is to see zimmerman walk.
Have you read my detailed " theory" in my other thread that I posted tonight? If not, you should.
http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread...tly-happened&p=2197460&viewfull=1#post2197460
My fucking god.....a fine example why the jury system is flawed.
I am dead serious...he just as well hang himself if people like you are on the jury.
Night all.
It was fun
Love watching people post stupid shit ....while sucking on an empty hook
I'm guessing that you must enjoy reading your own posts immensely then. :24:
No, now you're putting words in my mouth. But whether you want to admit it or not, Zimmerman's actions make him directly responsible for everything that took place.
Kakapo Dundee
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Johnfromokc
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Martin's life didn't count because he was a black thug in a hoodie, therefore no self defense rights for Martin. Martin would have to go to prison for life without parole. Only Zimmerman is entitled to claim self defense here - so say the Zimmerbigots.
Minor Axis
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However, the way the law is stated, it seems that Martin would have also been able to use the SYG law in his defense. It's interesting how one side blames Martin for getting himself shot. The other side sees him being harassed leading to a physical confrontation forced by Zimmerman who was holding the gun.
As I said before a court of law will have to sort this out, but ultimately we don't have pre-crime laws in place (no pre-cogs to identify a culprit
), there was no crime based on proximity, Zimmerman took it upon himself to push this encounter and consequently, reasonably, he holds responsibility. Regardless of the existence of the Stand Your Ground law, if someone can be locked up for manslaughter or vehicular homicide, you should be held accountable under these circumstances for taking someone's life. I suppose the SYG law made it more difficult for the cops to arrest. It's a terrible law. In addition I heard that Zimmerman's father, a local judge had put pressure on the police too. All you have to do is ask, what is reasonable under the circumstances? If we continue to place a high value on human life, (all humans not certain humans), my definition of "reasonable" is an arrest and trial.An easy way to clarify the power of preconceived notions, just imagine Zimmerman as the black man who harassed and shot a White/Hispanic guy returning home from the store cause he did not like his looks.
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So you dont equate Zimmerman getting out of the SUV to guilt?
So why do you keep mentioning it?
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