Martin/Zimmerman-----Poll

What happened ?

  • Zimmerman was looking for the first black guy to shoot.

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  • Martin stalking Zimmerman is Ok

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It is a crime for Zimmerman to see where stalker Martin ran to.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The heck with a slow judicial system lets execute Zimmerman now

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I think Zimmerman had super human running skills and caught the young black man.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Kakapo Dundee

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you are wasting your time TM

The only evidence Dundee cares about is that Zimmerman got out of his car and had a gun. Anything else is irrelevant to Dundee

You're right....he's wasting his time, but only because he's obsessed with the constitutution rather than the case at hand. As I've already stated, Florida law,
and the law of any state that allows an armed adult to shoot an unarmed minor and claim 'self-defence' is seriously flawed.Scum like Zimmerman should not be permitted to manipulate the courts under oath. If you know that you have a loaded handgun in your possession, and you elect to pursue a minor knowing that you are bigger and stronger and that the police have been called, with a view to detaining him, you are clearly not in fear of your life.If you then decide within seconds of getting into a scuffle that you are losing, and shoot your victim dead at close range, you're a coward.If your lawyer then instructs you to claim that you were in 'fear of your life' in order to avoid a sentence, your lawyer is a shark, you are a coward with no morals, and the state is utterly stupid for allowing a statute onto its books that is so easily corrupted.The whole point of the legal system is to ensure that cases are tried on factual evidence. There's no concrete evidence to suggest that Zimmerman's life was in danger, and yet by claiming [truthfully or otherwise] to have been scared [despite clear indications that he had elected to be in a confrontation with his victim], the conventional rules of evidence go out of the window.

Court decisions are governed by facts. Badly drafted laws have loopholes that allow murderers to walk free by faking emotions. I'm glad that laws of evidence in this country are not watered down to appease the gun nuts, as appears to be the case in Florida.
 
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Well good.....if someone starts bashing your head into the cement in NZ...stay legal...let him keep going.
Hell you will be dead...and cant testify..thus like martin...of which you claim cant tell his side of the story.
What fucking difference does it make if you are not allowed to defend yourself to begin with?...Proving you were viciously attacked means nothing as you are guilty of defending yourself.
If what you say is true...its no fucking wonder you guys are run over with crime..and have the highest suicide rate in the world.

I suspect the common suicide note starts out with the following.
I am sick and tired of being a victim and not be allowed to defend myself....The govt requires me to be a pussy while the criminals do as they wish.
My house has been broke into three times the week....been beat up four times.....during the last attack a guy was smashing my head into the concrete..I wasnt allowed to do anything about....Luckily for me a stray dog saw it and got the guy off me...The dog has more sense that my govt.
I was going to cut my throat...but the kitchen knives are gone from the last burglary...Thus why I ran out in front of the city bus.

Sincerely,
Stretched ass pacifisted Johnny
 

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As a follow up...you may not want to come to America KD...because here you have the right to defend yourself.
You come over hear and start smashing some head....You can legally be shot.
And yes you walk....unless they start handing out pictures of a 12 year old black boy and say he was executed...and pressure comes from influential black citizens.
 

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wouldn't it be hugely ironic if Martin attacked first because he profiled Zimmerman as a gay cracker as the girl indicated she was concerned about.

If would explain a lot.

Not saying that is the case but it has as much plausibility as anything else.

Something happened which caused Martin to not go home during those 4 minutes. Home is a safe haven. I don't understand the logic from some that he was afraid to lead Zimmerman to his house.

All the evidence leads to Martin starting the confrontation. Why is that point being missed?
 

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wouldn't it be hugely ironic if Martin attacked first because he profiled Zimmerman as a gay cracker as the girl indicated she was concerned about.

If would explain a lot.

Not saying that is the case but it has as much plausibility as anything else.

Something happened which caused Martin to not go home during those 4 minutes. Home is a safe haven. I don't understand the logic from some that he was afraid to lead Zimmerman to his house.

All the evidence leads to Martin starting the confrontation. Why is that point being missed?

According to the GF of martin he was essentially at his house at one point...IMO he could have walked righted in/ as Zimmerman was all the way up at the T and wouldnt have been able to see him anyway.

IMO she herself acted a little funny about the entire thing...I would not be surprised if she had encouraged Martin into a fight...or martin said to her that he is going to stomp some ass.
Think about it...she testified in court she had knowledge that something went down as she could hear it on the phone.
But the GF hides for days and not answers the phone for anyone?{after the shooting}...People were trying to call her while martin was "missing" and tried to reach her after his death.
She stated she called back to martins phone after the incident..but then no longer tried.
It seems a gf would get concerned if she knew a fight went down and the BF wont answer the phone after.
Especially if he had some "Creepy ass cracker" after him.
Then went on as far as to lie to the family by saying she was in the hospital as to why she didnt go to the funeral.{but admitted she knew he was dead}
Ok so "dee dee" finally has contact with the martins....and what do they do...they get an attorney...why would they need an attorney?
The attorney does a makeshift deposition ..the claims she is a juvenile and is hiding her from the state...Incredible.
Not only does she finally say one thing then change it on the stand....She testifies that crump {the family att.} told her what to say...then told her to change her testimony in trial.
What does "dee dee" know that every effort was made to keep private.
Crump should be charged with tampering with a witness and interfering with an investigation.
Think about it...she stated she told martin to get away from the "creepy ass cracker"...if this is true seems like she would have been very fast to tell the martin family what had happened to martin and why.....but rather she attempted to disappear.
What was she afraid of?
She hid from the martins.
When contact was made...Crump hid her from the state.
When the state found her..the state hid her from the defense so they couldnt talk to her either.
"Dee Dee" IMO knows exactly what happened that night and would have been very damaging for martin.
Logic would tell us that the martins would want the police to talk to "dee dee" because of this "creepy ass cracker"
But IMO they didnt like what 'Dee Dee" said when she told them what happened...and the mess now began.
 
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