Martin/Zimmerman-----Poll

[Johnfromokc]

So John you are claiming that George followed martin...but yet havent proven such.
Also John..would that give martin the right to try and kill the watchman?{if he followed him}
Simple yes or no will suffice

Are you really that fucking stupid? Please tell me you are bullshitting for effect.

 

[The Man]

Are you really that fucking stupid? Please tell me you are bullshitting for effect.

would that give martin the right to try and kill the watchman?{if he followed him}
Simple yes or no will suffice

 

[Johnfromokc]

would that give martin the right to try and kill the watchman?{if he followed him}
Simple yes or no will suffice

Do you have the right to post stupid shit?

 

[The Man]

Do you have the right to post stupid shit?

would that give martin the right to try and kill the watchman?{if he followed him}
Simple yes or no will suffice

 

[The Man]

You are a perfect example of why the jury system is flawed John

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[The Man]

So John..the question to difficult for you?

would that give martin the right to try and kill the watchman?{if he followed him}
Simple yes or no will suffice

 

[The Man]

So John..the question to difficult for you?

would that give martin the right to try and kill the watchman?{if he followed him}
Simple yes or no will suffice

Dont strain yourself John....Too difficult for you?

 

[All Else Failed]

Good to see John is still partaking in baseless race baiting

 

[Alien Allen]

Yeah I wondered why John referred to race again when he stated long ago it had nothing to do with the argument.

John you are a hoot

 

[Tim]

So John you are claiming that George followed martin...but yet havent proven such.
Also John..would that give martin the right to try and kill the watchman?{if he followed him}
Simple yes or no will suffice

So you don't think that Zimmerman followed Martin? How the hell did they end up where they did when Zimmerman was parked so far away? Do you believe it happened at Zimmerman's suv and he dragged him to that spot?

Of course Zimmerman followed Martin, there is absolutely no other explanation of how they got to the point of the confrontation.

And Martin has as much right to use deadly force if he were defending himself from Zimmerman as Zimmerman has to defend himself from Martin.

See that's the problem with you. You will not admit the fact that Martin may have been defending himself, that's not something you are even willing to consider.


We don't know how the confrontation went down once they met. This is what the prosecution and defense must sort out and the jury must decide what the facts are. But to say one way or the other right now is wrong. We do not know if Zimmerman can claim self defense at this point. Because if he started the fight (which we don't know) and Martin got the upperhand in the struggle, then it isn't self defense, plain and simple.

And as to the race baiting you guys are calling out... It's funny that you guys have no problem calling it race baiting when the racism is pointed out, but you never say a fucking word when the racist comments are made...

Calling Zimmerman the watchman while referring to Martin as a violent man, calling out his race and assuming he was the aggressor.
Then there are the comments about having stolen goods at his house, because we all know blacks have loads of stolen goods at their house.
It's ok, keep your eyes closed to the remarks and don't speak up when they're made... it goes to your character.

 

[Johnfromokc]

Good to see John is still partaking in baseless race baiting

And AEF still engaging in mindless dipshittery.

Yeah I wondered why John referred to race again when he stated long ago it had nothing to do with the argument.

It's the only thing that makes sense. You Zimmerbigots abandoned common sense back in the very first thread on this subject. Your choice to defend Zimmerman's actions can only be rooted in bigotry, ignorance and defense of idiots rights to carry concealed firearms. Your positions are simply not logical or reasonable.

John you are a hoot

And you Zimmertards crack me up with your reverse logic. They way you guys can twist evidence and common sense to defend an moron with a gun that killed an unarmed teenager is the epitome of pathological idiocy.

 

[All Else Failed]

No see what you need to do is not try to divert attention away from you're moronic race baiting


the only one really bringing race into the issue is you.

They way you guys can twist evidence and common sense to defend an moron with a gun that killed an unarmed teenager is the epitome of pathological idiocy.

Except that there is a possibility that Zimmerman is totally innocent, and he still needs to go through a trial


Yet again, another example of somoene wanting to hang a potentially innocent man without anything more than spotty, initial evidence.

 

[The Man]

So you don't think that Zimmerman followed Martin? How the hell did they end up where they did when Zimmerman was parked so far away? Do you believe it happened at Zimmerman's suv and he dragged him to that spot?

Of course Zimmerman followed Martin, there is absolutely no other explanation of how they got to the point of the confrontation.

And Martin has as much right to use deadly force if he were defending himself from Zimmerman as Zimmerman has to defend himself from Martin.

See that's the problem with you. You will not admit the fact that Martin may have been defending himself, that's not something you are even willing to consider.


We don't know how the confrontation went down once they met. This is what the prosecution and defense must sort out and the jury must decide what the facts are. But to say one way or the other right now is wrong. We do not know if Zimmerman can claim self defense at this point. Because if he started the fight (which we don't know) and Martin got the upperhand in the struggle, then it isn't self defense, plain and simple.

And as to the race baiting you guys are calling out... It's funny that you guys have no problem calling it race baiting when the racism is pointed out, but you never say a fucking word when the racist comments are made...

Calling Zimmerman the watchman while referring to Martin as a violent man, calling out his race and assuming he was the aggressor.
Then there are the comments about having stolen goods at his house, because we all know blacks have loads of stolen goods at their house.
It's ok, keep your eyes closed to the remarks and don't speak up when they're made... it goes to your character.

And Martin has as much right to use deadly force if he were defending himself from Zimmerman as Zimmerman has to defend himself from Martin.

You havent shown that Zimmerman attacked martin...The evidence shows otherwise.

See that's the problem with you. You will not admit the fact that Martin may have been defending himself, that's not something you are even willing to consider.

There is no evidence to support such.

We don't know how the confrontation went down once they met.

Thus the false arrest.

This is what the prosecution and defense must sort out and the jury must decide what the facts are. But to say one way or the other right now is wrong.

Nothing to sort out..there is no evidence that Zimmerman attacked martin.

We do not know if Zimmerman can claim self defense at this point.

The gashes show otherwise.

Because if he started the fight (which we don't know) and Martin got the upperhand in the struggle, then it isn't self defense, plain and simple.

Wouldnt matter if Zimmerman did start it{not that we know he did}{simple fist fight or yelling match}..that would not give martin the right to start smashing his head.

Calling Zimmerman the watchman while referring to Martin as a violent man, calling out his race and assuming he was the aggressor.

Correct..Zimmerman was a watchman..and martin was a violent young man who smashed the watchmans head into the pavement ....We dont know if race was involved,there is nothing to suggest such.

Then there are the comments about having stolen goods at his house, because we all know blacks have loads of stolen goods at their house.
It's ok, keep your eyes closed to the remarks and don't speak up when they're made... it goes to your character.

Thats a lame ass lie..I have never stated "we know blacks have loads of stolen goods at their house"
Fucking lame tim...you not only inject race into the argument but present it as a lie as well.

 

[Tim]

Thats a lame ass lie..I have never stated "we know blacks have loads of stolen goods at their house"
Fucking lame tim...you not only inject race into the argument but present it as a lie as well.

I said that there were comments about stolen good, and you did make that reference.

Also think about this...if someone gets shot not far from your front steps and there is going to be alot of commotion going on how can you not know who got shot?.
Why are they only people to not know who got killed?
Perhaps stolen merchandise inside the house?...Didnt want any cops that night?
Something is very odd

Why the hell would you even say such a thing to begin with?
Do you automatically associate a black family with people who would have stolen goods in their home?

It's such a bizarre statement and so far out in left field, combined with other hints and references you have made, one can only assume you are racist.

 

[The Man]

I said that there were comments about stolen good, and you did make that reference.



Why the hell would you even say such a thing to begin with?
Do you automatically associate a black family with people who would have stolen goods in their home?

It's such a bizarre statement and so far out in left field, combined with other hints and references you have made, one can only assume you are racist.

Why the hell would you even say such a thing to begin with?
Do you automatically associate a black family with people who would have stolen goods in their home?

No but you do.
Are you ashamed Tim?
You should be.
Why do you associate possible stolen merchandise with "blacks"
You present yourself as the classic racist Tim.
Obviously when possible stolen merchandise was mentioned YOU had to associate it with blacks...Why is that Tim?

 

[Aeval]

I was wondering why you made the statement about stolen merchandise too, Man. I mentioned it earlier and you said something about thinking the mother lived there...I still fail to see the association. Are there reports somewhere linking the Martin family to criminal activity.....and by family I mean the mother and father. It was a rather odd comment.

 

[The Man]

I was wondering why you made the statement about stolen merchandise too, Man. I mentioned it earlier and you said something about thinking the mother lived there...I still fail to see the association. Are there reports somewhere linking the Martin family to criminal activity.....and by family I mean the mother and father. It was a rather odd comment.

At first I thought the mother was there.
The mother said the one screaming was martin.
So i was curious why she didnt involve the law that night..if she can say that was martin screaming
Turns out she wasnt at the residence...this has already been covered.

 

[Johnfromokc]

Except that there is a possibility that Zimmerman is totally innocent, and he still needs to go through a trial

This quote shows how fucking stupid the Zimmerbigot position has become.

Totally innocent? Are you really that fucking dense that you have convinced yourself that Zimmerman bears zero responsibility for the death of Trayvon Martin - an unarmed teenager - who Zimmerman followed after having been told at leat TWICE to never follow a suspect?

One more time, I'll repost this for the low IQ fuckwits among us who cannot grasp reality:

I'll say it again - Zimmerman had been TRAINED not to follow suspects:


Police volunteer program coordinator Wendy Dorival said she met Zimmerman in September at a community neighborhood watch presentation.

“I said, ‘If it’s someone you don’t recognize, call us. We’ll figure it out,’ ” Dorival said. “‘Observe from a safe location.’ There’s even a slide about not being vigilante police. I don’t know how many more times I can repeat it.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/1...#storylink=cpy


Then he was told the night of the killing not to follow Martin.

Zimmerman CAUSED this killing to happen by his own actions. Whatever happened that led Zimmerman to shoot Martin was caused by Zimmerman.

For some reason some people simply cannot accept that fact and continue to dream up all kinds of scenarios that might justify this unjustifiable killing.

And AGAIN - here's the timeline and map of the complex that you Zimmerbigots will again ignore and go off down random rabbit trails of tin-foil-hat defense of the indefensable:

Timeline:

7:11 PM: Zimmerman calls 911.

7:12 Phone records show Martins girlfriend is talking to him.

7:13 Zimmerman told to STOP FOLLOWING MARTIN.

7:15 Zimmerman hangs up with 911 operator.

7:16 Martin's phone line goes dead.

7:17 cops arrive on scene and find Martin dead.

Some links discussing the 5 minutes it took for Zimmerman to destroy two families:

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-shooting-timeline

This link has a timeline and a map of the complex. I've posted the map and timeline several times, and each time, the Zimmer apologists ignore it and go right back to making up "what-if" scenarios that make zero sense:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-04-09/trayvon-martin-timeline-florida-shooting/54129274/1

 

[The Man]

would that give martin the right to try and kill the watchman?{if he followed him}
Simple yes or no will suffice