Is it time to legalize pot and reduce the death rate of tobacco and alcohol?

[Stone]

A doctor's job is not to waste his time interviewing healthy patients and writing prescriptions for recreational drugs. His job is to treat and heal.

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Indeed......:thumbup

 

[Accountable]

The safest combination from a position of knowing everything that the patient is taking.

Pharmacists do that every day for free. It's part of their specialty.

 

[Stone]

Stone

I see that we are going into the personal and abuse mode while ignoring issues.

We are done here.


Regards
DL

All I've seen from you have been a constant string of fallacies which I've pointed out here and in your morality thread.
Truth is not abuse.

But I'm not done even if you don't respond to my rebuttals.

 

[Stone]

But I must attend to something else at the moment......I have to leave at this point and get ready to go to the hospital.
As this is a lengthy issue, I probably won't be back today.

Have fun, y'all

 

[Greatest I am]

Pharmacists do that every day for free. It's part of their specialty.

They advise. They do not prescribe.

Regards
DL

 

[Mercury]

Could marijuana be prescribed as an antidepressant? Or is marijuana really a depressant in disguise much like alcohol? I honestly don't know as I haven't really heard of any studies on that ... then again, as I understand it, there really aren't that many unbiased studies on the drug in the U.S.

Anyway, I think that would have determining factor in whether or not the drug could be considered being given less restrictions in the medical world.

 

[satinbutterfly]

We should allow competent adults to make their own decisions, then hold them responsible for those decisions.

I know it's a completely foreign concept in America today, but I think we should regain it.

This. :thumbup

And I find it sad anyone would look down on someone else because they like the occasional altered state of perception. Use does not equal abuse. We're all human and we all have our drug of choice. It's typically those who are so vocal against any sort of what they consider to be immoral activity that have the biggest skeletons in their closet.

 

[Jaybird]

They lie about marijuana. They tell you pot smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.

Ahh...yes. I used to be quite excellent at Tetris in college when smoking.

 

[The Doc]

Decriminalize so people can stop the whole medical marijuana bullshit

 

[Accountable]

They advise. They do not prescribe.

... which is all that is needed for recreational purposes.

 

[Greatest I am]

Could marijuana be prescribed as an antidepressant? Or is marijuana really a depressant in disguise much like alcohol? I honestly don't know as I haven't really heard of any studies on that ... then again, as I understand it, there really aren't that many unbiased studies on the drug in the U.S.

Anyway, I think that would have determining factor in whether or not the drug could be considered being given less restrictions in the medical world.

Either way does not speak to legalization and getting pushers away from children and that should be the focus of parents who take their duty to protect their children seriously.

Multi drug use is becoming the norm so effects get mixed.
It is not uncommon for some to smoke a joint then sit with a cigarette and beer.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Decriminalize so people can stop the whole medical marijuana bullshit

Decriminalize leave the pushers with access to our children.
Legalization under medical control serves parents better.

Regards
DL

 

[Accountable]

Insisting on doctors' prescribing the drugs puts the price out of reach of most addicts. The black market would continue, thefts to get the money to buy the drugs would continue. Result: no improvement.

 

[Stone]

Decriminalize leave the pushers with access to our children.
Legalization under medical control serves parents better.

Regards
DL

Decriminalization of use/abuse does not legalize the sale and distribution of the drugs in question.

The access you speak of would still be illegal from just that position alone.



You have presented the concept of medical prescriptions for recreation and now claim the following......

Legalization under medical control serves parents better.

A good example of a non-sequitur.
'Illegal distribution in an argument to legalize distribution'....
You are treating pot as a controlled drug in a debate where you originally debate not to control it.

From your opening post:

Our government policy should be to legalize the more forgiving drugs and make the less forgiving drugs illegal.

edit: and you have contradicted the last part of that quote by agreeing all drugs should be legal.

 

[alice in chains]

why does the government need to control it if it were legal? there's just really no reason. by letting the public have full control we'd eliminate the crime issue and all the problems that go with it and pump multiple billions of legit dollars into the american economy. we cannot control the black market and should stop pretending that we can or even more, pretending like we actually care.

 

[Stone]

why does the government need to control it if it were legal? there's just really no reason. by letting the public have full control we'd eliminate the crime issue and all the problems that go with it and pump multiple billions of legit dollars into the american economy. we cannot control the black market and should stop pretending that we can or even more, pretending like we actually care.

. by letting the public have full control

So far, that concept has been expressed in the results of voting......that government retain control.
The reason why is actually quite simple.
A large enough portion of the public sees drug abuse as enough of a threat to both individual and society's safety for there to be a need.

If there was no need, we logically wouldn't require a law for the intervention.

by letting the public have full control we'd eliminate the crime issue and all the problems that go with it and pump multiple billions of legit dollars into the american economy

There is a good argument against the present draconian laws on drug control, but decriminalization makes more sense than the extremes of the current war on drugs and the acceptance of a culture of drug abuse.

we cannot control the black market and should stop pretending that we can or even more, pretending like we actually care

Unfortunately, that's a sign post of a failing society.......both the apathy and the inability.

 

[Greatest I am]

Insisting on doctors' prescribing the drugs puts the price out of reach of most addicts. The black market would continue, thefts to get the money to buy the drugs would continue. Result: no improvement.

B S.

The price is inflated because of prohibition.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

why does the government need to control it if it were legal? there's just really no reason. by letting the public have full control we'd eliminate the crime issue and all the problems that go with it and pump multiple billions of legit dollars into the american economy. we cannot control the black market and should stop pretending that we can or even more, pretending like we actually care.

The same reason that they now control alcohol.

There is also the quality issue and if pot is being grown by everyone, the pushers will still be at our children.

Regards
DL

 

[Stone]

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There is also the quality issue and if pot is being grown by everyone, the pushers will still be at our children.

Regards
DL

( sigh! )
Are you currently smoking weed, by any chance?

 

[Stone]

The same reason that they now control alcohol.

There is also the quality issue and if pot is being grown by everyone, the pushers will still be at our children.

Regards
DL

Are you retreating from the Prohibition argument ( the failure of Prohibition ) as a reason to legalize pot?


BTW......the repeal of the 18th Amendment had nothing to do with issues of Constitutionality.....just an interesting FYI.

Another interesting fact is that the consumption of alcohol decreased after the 18th Amendment was passed and was still lower even after being repealed.


BTW....alcohol isn't legal in all of the US. The Feds merely gave up trying to impose a national ban.