Accountable
Well-Known Member
Damn. Christmas at your in-laws must be loads of fun.
She has 2, but one is an ignorant uneducated blind accepter of everything religious and swallows the southern gospel evangelican mantra with a dash of "I heard it on TV".
Her other sister is an inhuman bitch, who believes that her slightly upper middle class standing gives her superiority over everyone in her family, and tried to get my wife to quit college and work in fast food because she was "abusing the welfare system" and "harming her children" by being in school. She is a right wing nut with no reason to be!
but you can have at either of them!!! :yuk:willy_nilly:
That you refuse to comment and continue an argument for drug abuse and addiction is telling of your intentions.
I don't think people can get addicted to pot and they certainly don't go out and committ crime to get money for it.....maybe lay in bed and forget to work, but committ crime for it....naaaa. Alcohol effect people in more unpredictable ways.
That's not pot. That's black market, which would largely go away with the end of the "war on drugs."
No......the 'black market' would continue as drug dealers evade the imposed taxation by the Feds and State gov'ts.
Thanks.
Could you imagine the extra burden the inflated medical costs from the social impact of legalizing drug abuse and addiction, would impose on the tax payers in the up and coming Obamacare?
Innocent taxpayers essentially become the financial slaves to an expanding culture of drug abuse and addiction.
Legalizing marijuana is a much different discussion then legalizing all drugs correct? The position for the legalization of marijuana has heaps of research done to support their cause, despite the slightly less research done against it. The effects of marijuana are less lethal in it's current form than ciggarrettes and despite the effect of the high, it causes less problems then alcohol(I.E. you can't die while in DT for weed)
That being said, the argument to legalize ALL drugs(cocaine, heroin, Meth, etc..) has much less weight due to the much more harmful effects of those "harder drugs".
Right? :naughty
while I agree with your sentiments about drug use/abuse and it's detrimental effects on society, I have to argue with your semantics on this particular quote. The escape of Slaves from southern USA, pre-emancipation, was detrimental to society as it stood at that time and you don't here anyone arguing here that said emancipation and previous escapes should be considered criminal. Labor camps, Sweatshops, etc. could be considered beneficial to a society as they bring in a large amount of labor to build capital, as well as providing jobs to those who may not have them otherwise(in terms of sweatshops). Nobody would argue their criminalization.
Drug abuse and it's illegalization should be considered soley for the benefit of the harmful properties to those affected by the drug use, including consideration for the vicitms of crimes commited by those under the influence of said drugs. Societies are adaptable to most any given circumstances and will fundamentally react and adjust to problems caused by drug abuse, however the individual who suffer should be given protection.
That is because I have read the best of government's and inteligentia's reports and agree with them.
Still too lazy to read the L'Edain Royal Commission report I see.
Regards
DL
I see you're still too lazy to read the links to Portugal's success with decriminalization......or perhaps you figure you can deny it enough times someone starts to believe you ( me shudders at the thought of that )
Anyway....I've already commented in the past to the Canadian articles you posted and as I remember, decriminalization was inferred.
I agree except for saying that pot is not addictive.
It is.
A lower level of addiction than the more damaging ones for sure but addiction nevertheless.
Experts place tobacco as the greatest killer, alcohol as second worse and these two do more damage than all the other illegal drugs put together.
Rather insane to legalize the worse and leave the less damaging drugs illegal.
Regards
DL
Perhaps you forgot your post to Accountable in another thread where you stated hard drugs should be legalized?Rather insane to legalize the worse and leave the less damaging drugs illegal.
Like they did with alcohol. Right?
Wrong.
Regards
DL
It has been reported that smuggling one truckload of cigarettes from a low-tax US state to a high-tax state can lead to a profit of up to $2 million.
In the UK it has been reported that "27% of cigarettes and 68% of roll your own tobacco [is] purchased on the black market
In your world, there is no psychotropic drug use. Just drug abuse.
You think all drug use is evil and only want to decriminalize to save your foolish position.
Regards
DL
Imagine putting all the tax $$$ we now waste on a failed prohibition system and give it to the medical system that most intelligent reports say is better equipped to deal with addiction than the police.
A smart move to any intelligent person.
Regards
DL
Wrong according to experts.
You will note if you have read any government reports, that they usually extend the conversation to multi-drug use, which is quite common, and point to the fact that part of their legalization program must include all drugs if the pusher problem is to go away. That problem is key if we are to do what we want and cut access to our children.
Regards
DL
I do not deny that decriminalization will benefit us.
I just also recognize that full legalization is required and would be our admission that prohibition has never worked and that that whole system of social manipulation and control should be scrapped as we only hurt ourselves with trying to implement prohibitions that do not have public support. Prohibition is a government tool to put control of the black market in their hidden hands.
Who are the greatest drug pushers if not governments?
Regards
DL
Yes....you have.I do not deny that decriminalization will benefit us.
I just also recognize that full legalization is required and would be our admission that prohibition has never worked and that that whole system of social manipulation and control should be scrapped as we only hurt ourselves with trying to implement prohibitions that do not have public support.
If you're going to make claims like that.......prove itProhibition is a government tool to put control of the black market in their hidden hands.
Vociferous rhetoricWho are the greatest drug pushers if not governments?
Wrong according to experts.
You will note if you have read any government reports, that they usually extend the conversation to multi-drug use, which is quite common, and point to the fact that part of their legalization program must include all drugs if the pusher problem is to go away. That problem is key if we are to do what we want and cut access to our children.
Regards
DL
Ah hah!and point to the fact that part of their legalization program must include all drugs if the pusher problem is to go away
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