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HK

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Nah, if he can't show proof with sources then his information goes unproven.


Didn't you just say that you didn't even look at his proof to see whether it had a decent source, you just assumed it would be worthless based on the length of the video?
 

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Didn't you just say that you didn't even look at his proof to see whether it had a decent source, you just assumed it would be worthless based on the length of the video?

Nope I am going by GIA's history. He constantly posts crap. Do you think someone should posts "stats" without giving the source?
 

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Why should he repost stats that are present in the video? Participation in this sort of dialogue requires extending the basic courtesy to seek first to understand which requires taking time to view videos that the OP considers integral to the subject matter.

You have seen his posts.
He has no interest in subject matter.

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And calling evil good is a Christian trait.

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DL
As evidenced by the writings of William Bradford describing the failure of a Dutch trading expedition to a Native American village "But their enterprise failed, for it pleased God to afflict these Indians with such a deadly sickness, that out of 1,000, over 950 of them died, and many of them lay rotting above ground for want of burial . . ."

It pleased God... Holy hell!
 

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Who's to say God won't destroy our world if people choose the same path as they did then? Alot is up to what we humans choose to do.

Whose to say that the dragon circling our solar system won't swallow the Earth one day because we did not sacrifice enough virgins? You keep harping on GTA for proof without having any of your own. It's really quite sad.

Nope I am going by GIA's history. He constantly posts crap. Do you think someone should posts "stats" without giving the source?

In an effort to make YOU happy both he and I have quoted the Bible on multiple occasions which you ignore.

Nah, if he can't show proof with sources then his information goes unproven.

The Theist demanding proof. Do you realize how amusing that is? Lol.

This is only proof of how fallible humans are. The bible even predicts people pretending to be Christians when they don't follow the bible. I believe the world would be a better place if people truly followed the bible.

So with humans proven to be so flawed I don't put much faith in them. That is why I look for the truth for myself. I think many choose Atheism so they don't need to be held accountable to God and don't have to modify their behavior.

"The Bible predicts" OMG. To be accountable to something, it has to exist, be aware, and have demands of you. Mr. Where's-The-Proof, please show us some. Step up and stop being a hypocrite.

I don't have a problem with God's laws like you do. I am sure you don't believe in God because if no God exists then you don't have to conform your behavior.

Again with God's laws? You got some proof? So you don't have "any problem" with imaginary laws that come from your imaginary Deity. How comforting. :D
 

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The world would be a better place if people followed The Golden Rule which dates back to antiquity and is found in some form in every ethical tradition and HK is right, religious belief has no bearing on how people conform their behavior and it is amazing how many people believe this.

I agree. The idea that atheists are immoral is false and prejudice. Sure there are immoral atheists. But there are also immoral theists. On average, atheists are just as moral as theists.
 

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As evidenced by the writings of William Bradford describing the failure of a Dutch trading expedition to a Native American village "But their enterprise failed, for it pleased God to afflict these Indians with such a deadly sickness, that out of 1,000, over 950 of them died, and many of them lay rotting above ground for want of burial . . ."

It pleased God... Holy hell!

So you see William Bradford as being God?
 

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Whose to say that the dragon circling our solar system won't swallow the Earth one day because we did not sacrifice enough virgins? You keep harping on GTA for proof without having any of your own. It's really quite sad.

What proof do I need? I'm not making claims like GIA is. He is the one making claims without showing proof. I have been over this and explained it.

In an effort to make YOU happy both he and I have quoted the Bible on multiple occasions which you ignore.

Where did I ignore any bible quotes? I acknowledged what was quoted but you simply didn't like my response because it didn't agree with you. Saying I ignored them is a false statement. Why do you want to stoop to such dishonest tactics.

The Theist demanding proof. Do you realize how amusing that is? Lol.

If I lived in your fantasy world I would probably see it as amusing. Where have I claimed to be a Theist?

"The Bible predicts" OMG. To be accountable to something, it has to exist, be aware, and have demands of you. Mr. Where's-The-Proof, please show us some. Step up and stop being a hypocrite.

Matthew 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.''

Again with God's laws? You got some proof? So you don't have "any problem" with imaginary laws that come from your imaginary Deity. How comforting. :D

Easy, the Ten Commandments, etc...

Where have I claimed to be Christian? I am only going by what is written in the bible like GIA. One exception though, I don't twist the meaning of scripture like he does. You see, this is why he relies on YouTube and not the bible. You can find just about any point of view on tne internet but that doesn't mean it is the truth. The reason GIA refuses to quote scripture to show his premise is because that would reveal how he uses dishonesty to support his ideas.
 

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I agree. The idea that atheists are immoral is false and prejudice. Sure there are immoral atheists. But there are also immoral theists. On average, atheists are just as moral as theists.

I don't see how this can even be proven. So your statements are really a matter of opinion.
 

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....and Jeffrey Dahmer represents all atheists.....
Obviously, I didn't make my point very well with my use of Bradford's quote.....
Oh, screw that!
My response was to GIA
Greatest I am said:
And calling evil good is a Christian trait.

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DL
Bradford, a Christian, was calling evil good when he rejoiced in the death of 950 Native Americans, perceiving it as the act of God to remove the presence of those savages to pave the way for them to the new promised land. Are you that dense?
 

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Bradford, a Christian, was calling evil good when he rejoiced in the death of 950 Native Americans, perceiving it as the act of God to remove the presence of those savages to pave the way for them to the new promised land. Are you that dense?

And I am sure PolPot thought he was doing good also but on a much bigger scale.
 
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