Bullycide in America

[edgray]

Ed,

Do you think all psychiatry is quackery?

I wouldn't like to say all psychiatry is. But it has been shown time and time again to be seriously flawed.

Take for example the Zeebrugge ferry disaster. The survivors of the event were offered free psychiatric therapy to overcome the horror they'd lived through. Some accepted, some refused. In a later study of the survivors, it was shown that those who attended therapy or undertook psychiatric treatment were worse off than before, whereas the ones who'd refused and just talked to friends and family about the incident recovered perfectly.

That is why I treat psychiatry with suspicion. Unless you're dealing with serious psychoses then I think you're better off dealing with friends and family.

 

[AnitaBeer]

I think it's sick you guys are arguing over this bull shit!

Bullying is a serious problem today. Yes it's always been a problem and always will be, but the extent of how often and how sever it gets today is terrifying.

You guys keep arguing over petty bull shit and when you are all ready to see the light and just agree something needs to be done and actually do something then I'll know you care about bullying!

 

[darkangel]

I think it's sick you guys are arguing over this bull shit!

Bullying is a serious problem today. Yes it's always been a problem and always will be, but the extent of how often and how sever it gets today is terrifying.

You guys keep arguing over petty bull shit and when you are all ready to see the light and just agree something needs to be done and actually do something then I'll know you care about bullying!

Anita I started this thread in the video Forum just to show how awful it is and it got turned into a damn debate which really pissed me off. All I wanted to do was show what was going on in our world and then the damn thread went fucking chaotic. I wish I hadn't posted it now.

 

[Guyzerr]

I only "got up on my high horse" because of my surprise at the total lack of reaction to this. I'm sorry for having a pulse, but I've witnessed much bullying over the years and I can't stand it. It's one of the ugliest human traits our festering societies have produced so far.

Ed you witnessed it. Big deal. What did you do when you witnessed it? Stand back or do what I did. Step in and put a stop to it . I'll assume the latter because you didn't mention it. I've got a busted nose more than once for sticking up for the little guy. *** witnessed it... big fucking deal ***

As for it not going to change, change starts with one person. Change how you feel about it. And then spread the word. This could easily be changed if people understood the causes of bullying, which is quite simply: high self-esteem.

High self esteem has fuck all to do with it. It's a display of power... nothing more and nothing less.

If you want it to change it starts with the parents. Teach your kid to stick up for themselves if and when someone starts picking on 'em. Fuck waiting to tell someone. Grow the fuck up, suck it up and protect yourself. If every kid did that it would stop very soon.

If you you encounter anyone with a superiority complex of any kind, just talk to them, make them realise that they're not so special. You never know who you might be helping in the future.

http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-love-it-when-i-read-something-that.html

Um Ed.... hello............ kids are being raised by parents that tell 'em every day their special and superior. :24::24::24: Talk to them.... you're kidding right. Like that's gunna help. It might get ya a couple broken teeth is what it might do.

 

[Guyzerr]

It takes Ed awhile, but he generally comes around.

Ok Accountable those kind of statements annoy the bejesus out of me. I want... no ... I demand proof. Show me one thread where's he's come around. Just one.

 

[darkangel]

Ok Accountable those kind of statements annoy the bejesus out of me. I want... no ... I demand proof. Show me one thread where's he's come around. Just one.

Well he came around in this one then decided to come back a couple of hours later and start back up. He just should have left well enough alone....This thread was in the Video Forum until he came back. I had to ask for it to be moved because it got into a damn debate that had no end...

 

[cam elle toe]

ummmmmm hello?

This is a chat forum.....I've been reading along with this thread and cant see anywhere that it got "chaotic"

I cant see anywhere that Ed has backed down or changed his mind or got upset...he's giving his opinion on a CHAT FORUM...who gives a fuck what friggin "section" its in.....

Methinks some people take things WAAAAAY to seriously....


and for the record...YES...in my personal experience you CAN talk to a bully and get them to see the error of their ways....I've done it.

You CAN also talk to the parents...it doesn;t always work....but never say NEVER

 

[darkangel]

Cam all I'm saying is that it was not my intention for this thread to be a debate. It happens I know but that's not how I had planned it when I posted the video. I figured I would get a couple of comments about how sad it is but shit happens I guess. I guess I should be happy cuz I got all the Tokenz from it. I don't know anymore.

 

[cam elle toe]

Cam all I'm saying is that it was not my intention for this thread to be a debate. It happens I know but that's not how I had planned it when I posted the video. I figured I would get a couple of comments about how sad it is but shit happens I guess. I guess I should be happy cuz I got all the Tokenz from it. I don't know anymore.

maybe not...but you have to expect any controversial subject to eventually turn into one...and bullying IS a controversial topic

 

[cam elle toe]

and actually....go back and see WHO turned it into a debate first. It wasnt Ed.





Love ya Guyz:24:

 

[darkangel]

maybe not...but you have to expect any controversial subject to eventually turn into one...and bullying IS a controversial topic

Yeah you're right 100%. Shit happens I guess.

 

[Guyzerr]

and actually....go back and see WHO turned it into a debate first. It wasnt Ed.

First Ed picks on me... they the person I would least expect it from ... you. I just can't escape being bullied even as I age. Oh well... some people are just destined to be on the wrong end of the stick.

In all seriousness Cammy as far as I'm concerned it wasn't I that turned it into a debate. If you notice I responded to Ed's comment so I think it's safe to say he fired the first shot. You can blame me if you like cuz I have big shoulders and can take it.

Love ya Guyz:24:

I almost missed this. :eek


Once again and in all seriousness I believe bullying can be stopped if every parent taught their kids to stick up for themselves. It's been proven time and again that if someone is being bullied and they at least make an honest attempt to put a stop to it the bully will most likely back away. It doesn't always work but the chances it will are very high. Sure a kid might end up with a bloody nose once in a while but the majority of kids that see it happen will think twice about doing it to that kid again for fear of getting their lights punched out.

 

[Guyzerr]

Yeah you're right 100%. Shit happens I guess.

I didn't mean to piss on your parade but this is a very serious subject for me because of what I faced as a kid.

Still love me like Cammy says she does?

 

[cam elle toe]

First Ed picks on me... they the person I would least expect it from ... you. I just can't escape being bullied even as I age. Oh well... some people are just destined to be on the wrong end of the stick.

In all seriousness Cammy as far as I'm concerned it wasn't I that turned it into a debate. If you notice I responded to Ed's comment so I think it's safe to say he fired the first shot. You can blame me if you like cuz I have big shoulders and can take it.




I almost missed this. :eek


Once again and in all seriousness I believe bullying can be stopped if every parent taught their kids to stick up for themselves. It's been proven time and again that if someone is being bullied and they at least make an honest attempt to put a stop to it the bully will most likely back away. It doesn't always work but the chances it will are very high. Sure a kid might end up with a bloody nose once in a while but the majority of kids that see it happen will think twice about doing it to that kid again for fear of getting their lights punched out.

I aint pickin on ya....wanna fight:ninja

I didn't mean to piss on your parade but this is a very serious subject for me because of what I faced as a kid.

Still love me like Cammy says she does?

I'm sure it is....and I dont just say I do, I mean it.

 

[Guyzerr]

I aint pickin on ya....wanna fight:ninja

I fight different with gals than I do guys. Still wanna go a couple rounds?

I'm sure it is....and I dont just say I do, I mean it.

Cammy it was relentless until I started to stand up for myself. Things changed in a hell of a hurry after that. It did me nothing but good and has stayed with me for life.

 

[cam elle toe]

I fight different with gals than I do guys. Still wanna go a couple rounds?


Yes, yes I do.....wear me out ready for me nana nap

Cammy it was relentless until I started to stand up for myself. Things changed in a hell of a hurry after that. It did me nothing but good and has stayed with me for life.

I hung with the "cool crowd" at school and one of my friends...(yeah..she was my friend) was a relentless bully.

I used to ignore it/her, but I hated her doing it. One day I stuck up for the bullied one....and had a good talk to my mate (we were about 15/16 at the time).....now, I'm not saying she changed overnight, but she DID before we all left school....even apologised to some that she'd "bashed"

Believe it or not, we're still friends now....she lives near me here, and is a social worker.

 

[edgray]

Ed you witnessed it. Big deal. What did you do when you witnessed it? Stand back or do what I did. Step in and put a stop to it . I'll assume the latter because you didn't mention it. I've got a busted nose more than once for sticking up for the little guy. *** witnessed it... big fucking deal ***

You seem to be thinking bullying and a punch up are the same thing Guyzerr. Which they aren't. And yes, I've broken up plenty of fights in my years, its a benefit of being nice and tall.

High self esteem has fuck all to do with it. It's a display of power... nothing more and nothing less.

You're talking about punch ups again. Sorry, I know you have trouble grasping subject matters that involve more than on syllable, but this thread is about bullying, nothing more, nothing less.

Research the causes of bullying like I have before you jump in and start flailing your arms around. There are people out there that have, and they happily publish there results for people to read. High self esteem is the major cause of bullying.

If you want it to change it starts with the parents. Teach your kid to stick up for themselves if and when someone starts picking on 'em. Fuck waiting to tell someone. Grow the fuck up, suck it up and protect yourself. If every kid did that it would stop very soon.

Again with the punch-ups...

Um Ed.... hello............ kids are being raised by parents that tell 'em every day their special and superior. :24::24::24: Talk to them.... you're kidding right. Like that's gunna help. It might get ya a couple broken teeth is what it might do.

Again with the punch-ups...

First Ed picks on me... they the person I would least expect it from ... you. I just can't escape being bullied even as I age. Oh well... some people are just destined to be on the wrong end of the stick.

If you think I was picking on you then you're insane.

In all seriousness Cammy as far as I'm concerned it wasn't I that turned it into a debate. If you notice I responded to Ed's comment so I think it's safe to say he fired the first shot. You can blame me if you like cuz I have big shoulders and can take it.

Actually you took the first shot, as usual.

Once again and in all seriousness I believe bullying can be stopped if every parent taught their kids to stick up for themselves. It's been proven time and again that if someone is being bullied and they at least make an honest attempt to put a stop to it the bully will most likely back away. It doesn't always work but the chances it will are very high. Sure a kid might end up with a bloody nose once in a while but the majority of kids that see it happen will think twice about doing it to that kid again for fear of getting their lights punched out.

again with the punch-ups...

Just to recap, a punch-up is not necessarily bullying. Bullying is persistent abuse, not a scrap in the school yard.

 

[edgray]

ummmmmm hello?

This is a chat forum.....I've been reading along with this thread and cant see anywhere that it got "chaotic"

I cant see anywhere that Ed has backed down or changed his mind or got upset...he's giving his opinion on a CHAT FORUM...who gives a fuck what friggin "section" its in.....

Methinks some people take things WAAAAAY to seriously....


and for the record...YES...in my personal experience you CAN talk to a bully and get them to see the error of their ways....I've done it.

You CAN also talk to the parents...it doesn;t always work....but never say NEVER

And there we have it

Cam, you're awesome

 

[Guyzerr]

Ed there's a few things I would like to suggest to you...

) read what I write and pay attention before responding
) quit putting words in my mouth
) quit twisting things to suit your own agenda
) allow someone to have their own opinion
) take off the rose colored glasses

 

[edgray]

Ed there's a few things I would like to suggest to you...

) read what I write and pay attention before responding
) quit putting words in my mouth
) quit twisting things to suit your own agenda
) allow someone to have their own opinion
) take off the rose colored glasses

Oh. My. God.

That is the biggest case of the pot calling the kettle black I've ever seen. Seriously, do you think before you type? Jesus Christ dude.