Are Western Churches and Governments promoting hate?

[Tuffdisc]

Show how consenting Gays living their lifestyle does harm?

Regards
DL

I think you know, but if I say anything you will throw the homophobic card at me as to say I don't think some aspects of heterosexual life is bad

 

[Greatest I am]

You're definition of sin is wrong, you made it up.

Look up the definition.

Nice debate style.

I will look it up in the Bible that advocates that man should have many wives.

Regards
DL

 

[Kyle B]

Nice debate style.

I will look it up in the Bible that advocates that man should have many wives.

Regards
DL

You don't even have to look it up in the Bible, look it up in the dictionary.

Just because the definition doesn't further your debate here, doesn't mean you can throw it out the window.

 

[Greatest I am]

I think you know, but if I say anything you will throw the homophobic card at me as to say I don't think some aspects of heterosexual life is bad

I don't know which answer is more pathetic in a debate forum. Yours or Kyle B's.

And you both criticize me.

Let me use the emoticon you favor. :24::24::24::24::24::24:

Neither of you losers will even attempt to define sin yet sit there calling innocent people sinners.

Typical theists who do not have a clue.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Have you found your attraction to children hard to control?

Regards
DL

What? This is silly questioning coming from a child, sad...I don't find children attractive...people like you make excuses for these pedos, i.e. you say that homosexuality is linked to genes or biology, that is sad, thought people like you should ought to know that

 

[Tuffdisc]

I don't know which answer is more pathetic in a debate forum. Yours or Kyle B's.

And you both criticize me.

Let me use the emoticon you favor. :24::24::24::24::24::24:

Neither of you losers will even attempt to define sin yet sit there calling innocent people sinners.

Typical theists who do not have a clue.

Regards
DL

Has anyone in your life ever said that you are a bore? Or don't have a life?

 

[Greatest I am]

You don't even have to look it up in the Bible, look it up in the dictionary.

Just because the definition doesn't further your debate here, doesn't mean you can throw it out the window.

That is exactly what you did with mine without showing the error.

Go away boy. I seek men to chat with.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

That is exactly what you did with mine without showing the error.

Go away boy. I seek men to chat with.

Regards
DL

Name calling people on this site doesn't mean you are right, I'm sure that you know that....:24:

 

[Greatest I am]

What? This is silly questioning coming from a child, sad...I don't find children attractive...people like you make excuses for these pedos, i.e. you say that homosexuality is linked to genes or biology, that is sad, thought people like you should ought to know that

Why is it a silly question and why have you reversed your statement?

You said "In my experience everyone is prone to being attracted to children, "
Everyone would include you. You would not use that word if you were not including yourself.

I asked for clarification and your experience.

Did you not speak the truth in your statement?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Why is it a silly question and why have you reversed your statement?

You said "In my experience everyone is prone to being attracted to children, "
Everyone would include you. You would not use that word if you were not including yourself.

I asked for clarification and your experience.

Did you not speak the truth in your statement?

Regards
DL

Everyone is prone to make silly mistakes, everyone has their opinion. Everyone fancies one person or another. Everyone likes certain sexual practices, is that clarification for you?

 

[Kyle B]

That is exactly what you did with mine without showing the error.

Go away boy. I seek men to chat with.

Regards
DL

No need to go throwing personal attacks around, that's not going to help you.

 

[Greatest I am]

Everyone is prone to make silly mistakes, everyone has their opinion. Everyone fancies one person or another. Everyone likes certain sexual practices, is that clarification for you?

Is this angry at yourself rant your way of recanting a statement.
It shows just how immature you are.
Screaming verbally at me is hardly a good way to recant.
You justify your own error the same way you justify your homophobia. Not well at all.
Go chat with Kyle. You can lick each others wounds.

If you want to talk to me on this issue then talk of sin.
You are both out to lunch on it.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

No need to go throwing personal attacks around, that's not going to help you.

I see your criticizing without correcting as a personal attack.

It is like calling someone stupid as you drive by. Recognize your ignorance.

If you and Tuffdisc would stay on topic instead of hiding your lack of intelligent input behind the personal, we would not get into this type of B S abuse and we might actually all learn something.

Define why my definition of lie is not good or go away.

Regards
DL

 

[mazHur]

Those are called pedophiles. Not Gays.

aren't both the same except for age difference??

Do you call men who rape girls heterosexuals or rapists?

Law prefers to call them ''criminals''....

As I said, sin has victims and Gays do not create any

Sin is used in religious contexts, ie Lawlessness of God's will...or deviation from morals...I am not sure
whether the gays believe in God hence Sin or Morality as defined by all religions??? Thus how can ''believers'' and ''non-believers'' be the same or have the same rights in the eyes of God???

Sin, in religion, is an act that violates a known moral rule. The term sin may also refer to the state of having committed such a violation. Commonly, the moral code of conduct is decreed by a divine entity, i.e. divine law. Sin may also refer to refraining from action or simply desiring to act in violation of a moral norm. Fundamentally, sin is rebellion against, or resistance to, the direction of supreme authority, and enmity toward, avoidance of, or hatred of the good.[citation needed] Sin may also refer to something within human nature that has a proclivity to sin (see concupiscence).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin

 

[mazHur]

No need to go throwing personal attacks around, that's not going to help you.

GIA seems flustered and defeated. Let us leave him alone for a while to regain hisself!

 

[Greatest I am]

aren't both the same except for age difference??

You tell me. Are you the same as a child molester except for the age difference?

Law prefers to call them ''criminals''....

I was not asking what the law was doing.
We were talking of how you relate things.

Sin is used in religious contexts, ie Lawlessness of God's will...or deviation from morals...I am not sure
whether the gays believe in God hence Sin or Morality as defined by all religions??? Thus how can ''believers'' and ''non-believers'' be the same or have the same rights in the eyes of God???

I find it quite strange that man has evolved his thinking to where we try to recognize that within the human common, all men should be given the status of being equal.
We do this with charity and forgiveness even as we recognize that in reality, thanks to sickness and disease, we are not really all born equal. We do in a sense say that all souls are equal.
God though, by having an elect, creates souls unequal.
Any thoughts as to why mans morals and standards have exceeded God's?
Could it be because people of God have not allowed him to evolve and they prefer the old tribal ways of divisiveness instead of inclusion/
Do you and your God love to hate so much that you cannot let the us and them become the us?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

I find it quite strange that man has evolved his thinking to where we try to recognize that within the human common, all men should be given the status of being equal.
We do this with charity and forgiveness even as we recognize that in reality, thanks to sickness and disease, we are not really all born equal. We do in a sense say that all souls are equal.
God though, by having an elect, creates souls unequal.
Any thoughts as to why mans morals and standards have exceeded God's?
Could it be because people of God have not allowed him to evolve and they prefer the old tribal ways of divisiveness instead of inclusion/
Do you and your God love to hate so much that you cannot let the us and them become the us?

Regards
DL

Creates souls that are unequal? So you are saying that he created the human race with no equality in mind? What a laugh you are, I am having thoughts about being an agent for you to stand on the comedy circus, you will be good at one thing, and that is being hilariously funny, wanna try it out? You might make big bucks out of misconstruing the thoughts of God

 

[mazHur]

I find it quite strange that man has evolved his thinking to where we try to recognize that within the human common, all men should be given the status of being equal.
We do this with charity and forgiveness even as we recognize that in reality, thanks to sickness and disease, we are not really all born equal. We do in a sense say that all souls are equal.
God though, by having an elect, creates souls unequal.
Any thoughts as to why mans morals and standards have exceeded God's?
Could it be because people of God have not allowed him to evolve and they prefer the old tribal ways of divisiveness instead of inclusion/
Do you and your God love to hate so much that you cannot let the us and them become the us?

Regards
DL

All humans are born Equal, but they grow up unequally depending on their learning and God-fearing.

Since gays are said not to believe in God but rather shun His grace, it connotes as if they are not sinners at all.....and since they don't sin or don't believe in the concept of sin, they lack 'morals' by the standards laid down by religions. It really makes it difficult to put them in place with the Believers unless Believers too
have to commit sin on their behalf..

God doesn't hate, it loves everyone.....loves you too and therefore asks to be good.
The Ten Commandants are NOT Tribal....though they are a part of scriptures yet as a Muslim I believe in them and hurt to note when a Christian calls them 'tribal' or bane etc

You may do whatever you like I don't care a hoot but stop talking ill of God or the holy Scriptures because I believe in Him and all divine scriptures and love them, 'k?

 

[Zorak]

All humans are born Equal, but they grow up unequally depending on their learning and God-fearing.

Since gays are said not to believe in God but rather shun His grace, it connotes as if they are not sinners at all.....and since they don't sin or don't believe in the concept of sin, they lack 'morals' by the standards laid down by religions. It really makes it difficult to put them in place with the Believers unless Believers too
have to commit sin on their behalf..

God doesn't hate, it loves everyone.....loves you too and therefore asks to be good.
The Ten Commandants are NOT Tribal....though they are a part of scriptures yet as a Muslim I believe in them and hurt to note when a Christian calls them 'tribal' or bane etc

You may do whatever you like I don't care a hoot but stop talking ill of God or the holy Scriptures because I believe in Him and all divine scriptures and love them, 'k?

Can you not be gay and believe in God? I'm fairly sure a number do, from every religion.

 

[Greatest I am]

Creates souls that are unequal? So you are saying that he created the human race with no equality in mind? What a laugh you are, I am having thoughts about being an agent for you to stand on the comedy circus, you will be good at one thing, and that is being hilariously funny, wanna try it out? You might make big bucks out of misconstruing the thoughts of God

Are you saying the elect are not better than the other souls?

Regards
DL