Are Western Churches and Governments promoting hate?

[Greatest I am]

Tuff is tuff and I like his reasoning rationale....and if I were given to choose from him and gays I will hasten
to befriend God-fearing and down-to-earth Tuff!!

Strange that you see fear as the number one quality for a person.
That says much about why you think like you do and what motivates you.

You have Stockholm syndrome.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Strange that you see fear as the number one quality for a person.
That says much about why you think like you do and what motivates you.

You have Stockholm syndrome.

Regards
DL

I guess you love insulting people, then parading yourself as a person with such morals. You think to justify insults by accusing other people of insulting you, yet I somehow I have never seen them insult you. I did a google search of your username, such a surprise it is......not that you are on other forums

 

[Greatest I am]

If we are so corrupt as to not to repent, then we can't bring forth good fruit

I am not speaking of us bringing forth anything.

I am speaking to God bringing forth corrupt fruit/us.

How is that possible?

Said another way and following scripture. Perfection brings forth perfection and imperfection brings forth imperfection.
God is perfect and can only bring forth perfection. Right?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Free will is all I do have to say, your opinion was that it is genocide, but not in God's view

What is your view?

Is it more moral to kill or cure when either can be done?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

What is your view?

Is it more moral to kill or cure when either can be done?

Regards
DL

I don't have a view, because I don't look at the past, I look towards the future, my life. It is up to God what he wants to do. If he did it, it probably was for a good reason. Though he has kept up his promise not to do it again

 

[Greatest I am]

You haven't learn't biology at 60? Wow, amazing

Thanks for showing that you do not know the answer.
If reproduction was the only criteria, God would tell us to hate all those who do not reproduce. Even those he creates barren.

I am not sure how your knowledge of biology explains how a virgin can give birth. Oh ya, invisible sperm. :24:

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Thanks for showing that you do not know the answer.
If reproduction was the only criteria, God would tell us to hate all those who do not reproduce. Even those he creates barren.

I am not sure how your knowledge of biology explains how a virgin can give birth. Oh ya, invisible sperm. :24:

Regards
DL

Nah, again you are really misconstruing God, as usual, typical GIA trait

How virgin can reproduce? Well God is powerful, unlike you :thumbup

 

[Greatest I am]

I don't have a view, because I don't look at the past, I look towards the future, my life. It is up to God what he wants to do. If he did it, it probably was for a good reason. Though he has kept up his promise not to do it again

Why promise not to do the right thing again?

Rather backwards don't you think. Oops that is right. You do not think.

Oh BTW.

We have been asking you this and you run from it. Care t have a go.

“he has never hated his creation,”
“God only hates sin, and wrongdoers”

Which of your contradictory statements do you stand behind and which one do you recant?
Both cannot stand.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

I don't have a view,

Yes you do. You said it was good.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Why promise not to do the right thing again?

Rather backwards don't you think. Oops that is right. You do not think.

Oh BTW.

We have been asking you this and you run from it. Care t have a go.

“he has never hated his creation,”
“God only hates sin, and wrongdoers”

Which of your contradictory statements do you stand behind and which one do you recant?
Both cannot stand.

Regards
DL

Because that was his love for Noah, nothing wrong with that is it? After all Noah did question him

I have told you about that bit, I don't care to want to answer again, if you don't want to read it, it is up to you :thumbup Free will, right?

 

[Greatest I am]

Nah, again you are really misconstruing God, as usual, typical GIA trait

How virgin can reproduce? Well God is powerful, unlike you :thumbup

Yes. Powerful enough to sin by coveting another man's woman and breaking his own commandment.
He does like to do that since we know that Jesus is what, the 6th or 7th man born of a virgin.

God sure likes to screw with our women.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Yes. Powerful enough to sin by coveting another man's woman and breaking his own commandment.
He does like to do that since we know that Jesus is what, the 6th or 7th man born of a virgin.

God sure likes to screw with our women.

Regards
DL

Have you heard of free will, nope? Surprised by that. Then again, not really

If you think you are trying to make me angry by coming up with the last statement, pity it didn't do much, since its completely wrong :thumbup

 

[Tuffdisc]

And GIA, you are showing the complete symptoms of jealousy in that last statement :24: Because maybe you are not getting any

 

[Accountable]

Where has God said that he hated people?

See post 163.

Oh please, he has never hated his creation, that is just silly,

God hates the people who do and create evil to others.

Again, how can these two stances both be true?

What two stances?

Stance 1: God has never hated his creation. (God doesn't hate people - never has)

Stance 2: God hates the people who do and create evil to others. (God hates some people)

 

[Tuffdisc]

How can God hate his creation? God never created evil

 

[Accountable]

How can God hate his creation? God never created evil

Exactly my thinking. So then it can't be said that God hates the people who do and create evil to others.

The line from Malachi needs to be analyzed and understood from the original Hebrew, taking into consideration the context and vernacular of that day, before it can be used as any kind of support of an opinion made today. That's way beyond my understanding, and likely beyond GAI's as well.

 

[Greatest I am]

Exactly my thinking. So then it can't be said that God hates the people who do and create evil to others.

The line from Malachi needs to be analyzed and understood from the original Hebrew, taking into consideration the context and vernacular of that day, before it can be used as any kind of support of an opinion made today. That's way beyond my understanding, and likely beyond GAI's as well.

You might be right but do you think that man has changed in his basic way of thinking regardless of the times? I do not think so and think that if we went at it and created a representative scenario of the times, we could dither out almost anything.

The following might be an example of Jews doing just that. I could be wrong of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

How can God hate his creation? God never created evil

Ephesians 3:9
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Ephesians 3:8-10
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Colossians 1:15-17
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

These say all, you say some.

Who is right?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Ephesians 3:9
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Ephesians 3:8-10
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Colossians 1:15-17
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

These say all, you say some.

Who is right?

Regards
DL

It never says that God created evil

 

[mazHur]

You might be right but do you think that man has changed in his basic way of thinking regardless of the times? I do not think so and think that if we went at it and created a representative scenario of the times, we could dither out almost anything.

The following might be an example of Jews doing just that. I could be wrong of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

Regards
DL

am fuckin'g tired of these bandwidth wastage for no good reason! Say what you wanna say with your own tongue......that saves time