Anti-Gay Concentration Camps

[All Else Failed]

http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html

lmao nice link you know that these guys have zero credibility, right?


all evidence points to homosexuality being genetic.

 

[Francis]

I could have done a serious search but this is just one source supporting me. If there is a gay gene, and they are just born that way...then i bet there is pedophilia gene too. I mean pedophiles are probly just born that way too. So are Necrofiliacs. If theres a gene out there that determines the sex your attracted to, its only logical there are others out there that pick the age group your attracted to and whatnot.

I guess they should do a pedo gene research and let all the pedo's out because its not their fault. they are just born that way... sort of like the study that there is a criminal gene.



Prove to me its not learned. If girls can be "turned bi" or "turned lesbian" by other girls, im sure its phenomenon among men too. There are men who enter prison masculine and straight, then leave feminine and homosexual.

Well first off give me a reputable site.. If you had looked properly you would have seen the following at the top of the Web Link you gave...

http://www.narth.com/menus/born.html

Then if you followed it says and I quote..

Homosexuality is an issue that has often been mishandled by therapists due to misinformation on the topic. Although not supported by the research, many therapists believe that homosexuality is solely biological in nature, and therefore unchangeable.

Here is a link you may want to read up on.. Seeing I dug into yours, perhaps you would like to educated yourself a bit but I doubt it...

Now seeing these are Medical Sites I don't expect you to believe them..

http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientation.aspx

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/abo.../ama-policy-regarding-sexual-orientation.page

And supported by both the APA and AMA..

http://gidreform.org/

 

[All Else Failed]

Many women claimed they are turned "Bi" or turned "lesbian".

Google it up. It happens. There are tons of stories and even guides for women to turn other women lesbian or bisexual:24::24::24:

If ignorance is bliss, you must be sitting next to me at the beach. Seems you dont know what the fuck your talking about either.

hey look I actually have reputable sources that say what you think is complete bullshit


http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=homosexuality+is+genetic&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

 

[BadBoy]

You've misinterpreted my statement.
Here are the most common schools of thought in human sexuality.

Proposal A:
All humans are born hard-wired to want to be in sexual/emotional relationships solely with those of the opposite sex. Their childhood experiences and socialization processes alone create homosexual behavior.

Proposal B:
Humans are born with any combination of hard-wired sexualities (gay, straight, bi, etc). Their childhood experiences and socialization processes merely shape the specific behaviors and extents to which these sexualities manifest and present (the verb, not the tense).

Proposal C:
Humans are born hard-wired to be solely gay, straight, or bisexual/pansexual. Their childhood experiences and socialization processes have no impact on their specific orientation.

Currently, there is little valid support for proposal A.

This is because it would be nearly impossible to track in an experiment. You cannot control all the outside factors. Proposal B is a catch all, really.

 

[The Doc]

That's just ridiculous. Do you really believe everything you read on the internet? Of course you do. :smiley24:

No but that I do. I also believe Encyclopedias and educational videos. That and the numberous stories of girls writing themselvs about turning bisexual and turning lesbian

Also read this study on prison homosexuality and its effect on post prison behavior.

http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/images/Prison_Homosexuality_and_Its_Effect.pdf

 

[Francis]

That's just ridiculous. Do you really believe everything you read on the internet? Of course you do. :smiley24:

I guess he hasn't gotten to the Internalized homophobia yet.. I guess he will just freak out when he does.. :24:

 

[Panacea]

This is because it would be nearly impossible to track in an experiment. You cannot control all the outside factors. Proposal B is a catch all, really.

It's not about controlling the factors, it's about observing them and finding patterns.

 

[All Else Failed]

Doc even though there may be some cases where people start to lean towards being more homosexual that doesn't mean that the vast majority of homosexuals are born that way and realize it upon sexual maturity


you do know that human sexuality is more of a spectrum, correct?




also that data is quite old (1970s).

 

[BadBoy]

Everything on the internet isn't true? Say it isn't so. Its hard to imagine that everyone gets their info from it.

 

[All Else Failed]

There are much more credible sources of information than others.

 

[Panacea]

There are much more credible sources of information than others.

Seems simple to me lol, it's so important.

 

[The Doc]

Doc even though there may be some cases where people start to lean towards being more homosexual that doesn't mean that the vast majority of homosexuals are born that way and realize it upon sexual maturity


you do know that human sexuality is more of a spectrum, correct?




also that data is quite old (1970s).

I totally agree with you. We live in a grey world, not a black or white one. I am sure some people become homosexuals at young ages.

I know the data is quite old but i can find a study after that, so until they do another study thats what we have. All i am saying is, because some CHOSE to be homosexual their behavior can be CHANGED.

Its pretty funny. Im an "Ignorant" bigot and all right? How have i been civil to most your responses, as most of you are bigoted towards my replies. It seems pretty ignorant to judge me off my oppinion. Oh dont get me wrong, i might be ignorant. Alot of you must be too. Ignrant to homosexuality, or ignorance to people against homosexuality is still ignorance.

 

[The Doc]

Everything on the internet isn't true? Say it isn't so. Its hard to imagine that everyone gets their info from it.

Holy shit seriously? Everything isnt real on the internet huh....that explains half the bullshit in this thread.:jk

 

[All Else Failed]

Lets say that someone "chose" (whatever that really means when you really think about it) to be gay. Why should this "behavior" be changed?

Its pretty funny. Im an "Ignorant" bigot and all right? How have i been civil to most your responses, as most of you are bigoted towards my replies. It seems pretty ignorant to judge me off my oppinion. Oh dont get me wrong, i might be ignorant. Alot of you must be too. Ignrant to homosexuality, or ignorance to people against homosexuality is still ignorance.

I'm not sure you know what "bigoted" means.

 

[Peter Parka]

When did you learn to be straight? Did you need telling that a womans punani should give you a boner and so therefore it did?
Oh, and I've been in prison and as sexualy fustrated as I got, I never felt like I'd fancy sticking it up a mans bottom, a wank over a jazz mag was far more appealing. But then I'm straight. Men who have sex in prison were at least a bit bi-sexual to begin with.

 

[Accountable]

*pull pin*

Has anyone considered that homo- hetero-sexuality might be a continuum of sexual preference, much like a preference for a certain age or body type? Isn't it possible to fall somewhere in the middle of the continuum (rather than only at either extreme) and then choose whether to go with homosexual, heterosexual, or both desires?

*duck and cover*

 

[Panacea]

*pull pin*

Has anyone considered that homo- hetero-sexuality might be a continuum of sexual preference, much like a preference for a certain age or body type? Isn't it possible to fall somewhere in the middle of the continuum (rather than only at either extreme) and then choose whether to go with homosexual, heterosexual, or both desires?

*duck and cover*

It certainly is on a continuum for humans in general, but not always on a continuum for each individual person.
I do not believe that every person can "choose" to go with men or women, only those born bisexual/pansexual.

 

[hart]

*pull pin*

Has anyone considered that homo- hetero-sexuality might be a continuum of sexual preference, much like a preference for a certain age or body type? Isn't it possible to fall somewhere in the middle of the continuum (rather than only at either extreme) and then choose whether to go with homosexual, heterosexual, or both desires?

*duck and cover*

Actually, I think that's true, especially for women, because society doesn't treat bisexuality in women as such a "bad thing" as they do in men. I think in certain circumstances, such as a long term prison sentence some men might turn to other men for sexual relief, but I do NOT think that when they get out of prision they will continue to seek out men. I think a lot of the men on men behavior in prison is as much about being frustrated and wanting to dominate and control SOMETHING in their environment more than a sexual urge.

Why would anyone think one's sexual preference is learned? That I just don't understand nor do I understand why one cares either way? :crazy:

 

[Accountable]

It certainly is on a continuum for humans in general, but not always on a continuum for each individual person.
I do not believe that every person can "choose" to go with men or women, only those born bisexual/pansexual.

Right. Some/most would fall far enough one one side or the other that a preference would be clear, and those that fall more in the middle would probably be influenced by societal norms in choosing which way to swing - behavior-wise rather than actually adjusting preference - or to choose to be bisexual.

 

[Joe the meek]

Do you believe being straight is a learned behavior?

A long time ago I happen to drink some bad water. Ended up getting a bacterial infection in my intestinal tract. When I finally went to the hospital to get myself checked out, I ended up taking a doctors arm, for what seemed like up to his elbow, up my ass. Up to that point in time in my life, I had never taken anything up my ass, and from that point on forward, I KNEW I didn't want anything up my ass.

Now, is taking things up your ass a learned behavior?

That said, live and let live, and if you want to take things up your ass and you aren't hurting anyone, who does it really hurt?