92 yr. old WWII vet kills home invader

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Joe the meek

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Why bother with doing it during as to let the invaders hear your voice...besides time is important..grab the rifle first ..second how long is it going to take the sheriff to get to his place out in the country.

Time couldn't of been that important if he had time to sit in the chair and wait.

The guy basically ambushed them, plain and simple.

Since the old man SAID HIMSELF that he wasn't in fear for his life, he IS guilty.

That said, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Oh, and the reason you would charge him, if you really can't figure it out, is to let a court of law decide if he is guilty or not. Old man shoots young punks busting into his house doesn't win any sympathy points for the punks though.
 

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Time couldn't of been that important if he had time to sit in the chair and wait.

The guy basically ambushed them, plain and simple.

Since the old man SAID HIMSELF that he wasn't in fear for his life, he IS guilty.

That said, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Oh, and the reason you would charge him, if you really can't figure it out, is to let a court of law decide if he is guilty or not. Old man shoots young punks busting into his house doesn't win any sympathy points for the punks though.

I would have sit myself..and am not 92 yet.
He didnt ambush them joe...the punks tried to ambush him when they kicked in the door.
Who isnt going to be scared when your door gets kicked in?...he is just playing the tough old fart routine.

Lets hope they dont call in a special prosecutor on this one like they did with Zimmerman.
It appears as if everyone is the same color here with the shooting,so this will probably be the end of it
 

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He didnt ambush them joe...the punks tried to ambush him when they kicked in the door.
Who isnt going to be scared when your door gets kicked in?...he is just playing the tough old fart routine.

If it took 20 minutes for the guys to get upstairs from the basement, IT WAS an ambush.

Added the fact that video cameras were installed in the basement due to a previous break in.

The guy was pissed so he was ready. He could of warned the intruders that he was armed and that the police were called, but he did nothing but WAIT for them to come up the stairs.

As I've said, the guy broke all the rules to cover your ass, but more power to him for getting away with it. Good thing he was 92 and a WW2 AIR FORCE vet who worked on airplanes.
 

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Meh...this "criminal" thinks old guy should have blasted all 3, then gone on a rampage through the town...Its the "American" way after all. (sarcasm alert for the faux horrified)

and from a nation of "criminals"...at least we've come somewhere in the last 200 years:p
 

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If it took 20 minutes for the guys to get upstairs from the basement, IT WAS an ambush.

Added the fact that video cameras were installed in the basement due to a previous break in.

The guy was pissed so he was ready. He could of warned the intruders that he was armed and that the police were called, but he did nothing but WAIT for them to come up the stairs.

As I've said, the guy broke all the rules to cover your ass, but more power to him for getting away with it. Good thing he was 92 and a WW2 AIR FORCE vet who worked on airplanes.

Who says it took 20 minutes to get upstairs.
He heard noise he grabbed rifle sit down they kicked in door to upstairs.
This is the first I have heard about a camera downstairs..not that it negates the fact they kicked in to the upstairs.
Why should he yell at home invaders and give up his exact location in the house?.
Why sit there and talk to police so you cant listen for intruders?...they cant save you anyway..they arent there.

The old man said something which pretty much sums it up.

"It was simple. That man was going to take my life. He was hunting me. I was protecting myself."

They came in at 2 am sneaked in through the basement ...then kicked in the door to the upstairs.
You dont kick in a door and make noise like that to do burglary while someone is asleep.

Was more personal...they kicked in the door and was on a mission.
 

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Oh my..from menace to terrorist.
I did the guy a favor...he got his punishment over with...beats sitting in prison a few years.
I am sure he would thank me today


Holy hell, how did I miss this....are you serious? If you did that shit here...YOU would be in prison....and rightfully so, and you're "within your rights" to do that shit where you live?

*glad I live in a penal colony*.
 

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Holy hell, how did I miss this....are you serious? If you did that shit here...YOU would be in prison....and rightfully so, and you're "within your rights" to do that shit where you live?

*glad I live in a penal colony*.

No, it's not legal here in ANY state. What he did could have gotten him 20 years in prison.

terrorism and illegal detention is never allowed
 

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No, it's not legal here in ANY state. What he did could have gotten him 20 years in prison.

terrorism and illegal detention is never allowed

unless your in Guantanamo....oh hang on...thats not US soil is it....(sorry..couldnt resist):p

So, if his victim had reported the abuse...who would have been charged? The "Man"...or the Burglar? Or both?
 

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Both would be charged.

The burglar for breaking and entering and the idiot that unlawfully detains, terrorizes and tortures under threat of bodily harm.

The funny part is that the home owner that does something like this can get 20 years while the burglar would probably just get probation.
 

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Don't worry Cam, I think he's just blowing smoke out his ass. I truly do not believe he did something as stupid as this/
 

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Holy hell, how did I miss this....are you serious? If you did that shit here...YOU would be in prison....and rightfully so, and you're "within your rights" to do that shit where you live?

*glad I live in a penal colony*.

I was being nice..I could have let the police have him...I was kinda giving him a choice...either drink it or I call.
He vacuumed mopped dusted did my dishes cleaned the toilet, polish my shoes..Made him call me sir...I turned him into my little bitch for a while
The little punk looked to frail to beat..I would have felt bad./.he would have got fucked in prison I didnt want that to happen either... but he got 3 hours of prison from me without the dick in his ass..he learned his lesson and that is what counts.
And the punk stopped breaking into my house..everyone is a winner
I have some liberal qualities about me when needed.
 

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Both would be charged.

The burglar for breaking and entering and the idiot that unlawfully detains, terrorizes and tortures under threat of bodily harm.

The funny part is that the home owner that does something like this can get 20 years while the burglar would probably just get probation.

Well obviously he didnt want to report did he tim as he would have a burglary charge...dont try to make me out to be the villain here..As said I did the guy a favor
 

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I was being nice..I could have let the police have him...I was kinda giving him a choice...either drink it or I call.
He vacuumed mopped dusted did my dishes cleaned the toilet, polish my shoes..Made him call me sir...I turned him into my little bitch for a while
The little punk looked to frail to beat..I would have felt bad./.he would have got fucked in prison I didnt want that to happen either... but he got 3 hours of prison from me without the dick in his ass..he learned his lesson and that is what counts.
And the punk stopped breaking into my house..everyone is a winner
I have some liberal qualities about me when needed.

and I bet you loved every minute of it.....otherwise you would have turned him over to the cops, to do THEIR job. You're as bad as the "criminal" you were punishing imo.:thumbdown
 

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Well obviously he didnt want to report did he tim as he would have a burglary charge...dont try to make me out to be the villain here..As said I did the guy a favor

Terrorizing him for 3 hours, making him drink dirty dish water and making him beg for his life???? Seriously???

You sound just like the typical bully that terrorizes the other kids in the neighborhood, pulls the wings off little birds and start fires in abandoned homes. The type of person that ends up going off killing everyone at the local bank when your deposit slip is lost.
 

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and I bet you loved every minute of it.....otherwise you would have turned him over to the cops, to do THEIR job. You're as bad as the "criminal" you were punishing imo.:thumbdown
No I didnt like it...giving him to the cops would have been like throwing a kitten in the dog pound....not very healthy for the kitten
 

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hell I even fed the little fucker and gave him a pack of smokes for the road

What if this was a female burglar? Would you have taught her a lesson by raping her?

But hell, it would have been ok since you gave her something to eat and a pack of smokes for the road, right?
 

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Terrorizing him for 3 hours, making him drink dirty dish water and making him beg for his life???? Seriously???

You sound just like the typical bully that terrorizes the other kids in the neighborhood, pulls the wings off little birds and start fires in abandoned homes. The type of person that ends up going off killing everyone at the local bank when your deposit slip is lost.

He is the one that kept crying they would kill him...and begging me to not turn him in ,,I never said I would kill him
 
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