Would you like to travel to Karachi “the most dangerous megacity” in the world? Why and Why Not?

[The Man]

I think if Taliban got elected they wouldn't easily give up control but pass it on to their successors through some form of democracy.

You do understand they are terrorists?

 

[mazHur]

Do they shoot women in the street in SA

Justice and laws are the same both for men and women..no discrimiation.

 

[mazHur]

You do understand they are terrorists?

they say they are 'freedom fighters'...even Americans adjudged them as so and called them Mujahideen's previously

 

[mazHur]

Let me see if I have this right...a nation taken over by terrorists is a democracy

Name the terrorist and shoot him...
You have no right to call everyone as terrorists...they say they are warring against foreign aggressors and occupiers.aren't you one??

 

[The Man]

Because they are infiltrating into Pak as well...and if they succeed in converting Pak people on their side this whole world would go haywire

They are terrorists Maz..that is why you shoot them when they come to town..you gave them reservations to live on...but the simple fact that you shoot them when they leave the reservation and come to town...should tell you that they are no good.
But you dont mind them fucking up other nations as long as it isnt PK...kinda selfish maz IMO.

 

[mazHur]

WOW.
So if I havent mentioned we have alligator as well...you are going to claim I said we dont have any.
Do you see why you are taking such a pounding?

don't try to play games with me, troll!!

 

[mazHur]

They are terrorists Maz..that is why you shoot them when they come to town..you gave them reservations to live on...but the simple fact that you shoot them when they leave the reservation and come to town...should tell you that they are no good.
But you dont mind them fucking up other nations as long as it isnt PK...kinda selfish maz IMO.

I would rather call them enemies because we Paks are helping America as its ally in Your war on terror...

If it were left to Pak alone Pak has the capacity to eradicate them but who has the guts to disobey Uncle Sam or refuse to tow its line especially when one is broke and hard up??

 

[The Man]

Name the terrorist and shoot him...
You have no right to call everyone as terrorists...they say they are warring against foreign aggressors and occupiers.aren't you one??

Pk forces shoot the Taliban for coming to town maz..they are terrorists.
We are not foreign aggressors..we only kill terrorists maz

 

[The Man]

I would rather call them enemies

Well done..you have just called the terrorists the enemy as well...the enemy gets shot right maz?
But why is it ok for you to shoot them and not us?

 

[Joe the meek]

Good question, I sincerely appreciate.

I think if Taliban got elected they wouldn't easily give up control but pass it on to their successors through some form of democracy. Afterall the Greek type of democracy is not the only one type that's followed by others..I also think they might establish a govt just like Iran...or perhaps Saudia but differing in that it won't be dynastical type. Well, you can assess how Taliban presently elect their leaders through a majlis e shoora or a parliament of advisers.

But the real problem is not limited to Taliban ..it's the people themselves who want Taliban!! According to them Taliban can crush crime and get them justice..which I think they did during their brief stint of rule in Afghanistan...I also think that If Sharia is enforced by them there would be almost an end to crime....as is in Saudia or UAE where a few locals rule the millions!

I believe the men who founded the US realized that men in power through the use of force rarely give up that power from the people who they subject.

Have you ever read the US Constitution? Wonderful piece of paper who fruit may be truly bared yet.

There is a difference between a democracy and a republic. Most people tend to forget that the US is a republic, and not a democracy.

As mentioned, the real bitch is to protect the minority from the majority.

 

[mazHur]

I believe the men who founded the US realized that men in power through the use of force rarely give up that power from the people who they subject.

Have you ever read the US Constitution? Wonderful piece of paper who fruit may be truly bared yet.

There is a difference between a democracy and a republic. Most people tend to forget that the US is a republic, and not a democracy.

As mentioned, the real bitch is to protect the minority from the majority.

I do realize the 'real bitch' but even minorities must follow and respect the law of the land otherwise they would face trouble.
Oppression of the majority by the minority is yet another problem...
Minorities are fully protected in monarchies such as Saudia...
but with Taliban I cannot be sure...I am for Sharia but not what exactly the one Taliban want to dictate...

As a born Muslim I found Islam as most liberal of all religions...
there is no compulsion in Islam but who's going to make Taliban and their folks understand??
Why should I be forced to keep a beard?
Why shouldn't i not be allowed to watch tv?
Why should i be forced to pray 5 times a day??
Why should I be compelled to observe religious rituals as Taliban want??
Why should I obey their command??
Why should I put my women folk in a shroud??
Why should I not watch videos and movies??

these and many other questions pose hindrance to acceptance of Taliban belief...otherwise there have not been any incidence of their moral degeneration or turpitude. As far as killing is concerned the Taliban say they are in a state of war and it is right for them to kill their enemy, spies and anyone who sides with their enemy..
How far they are right you can easily judge for yerself.

Good nite

 

[The Man]

There is a difference between a democracy and a republic. Most people tend to forget that the US is a republic, and not a democracy.

In other words MAZ..we elect people to make those laws and choices for us.
Its far from perfect as the goal is to be elected rather than to serve the people...however you do get some good people in office

 

[mazHur]

I believe the men who founded the US realized that men in power through the use of force rarely give up that power from the people who they subject.

Have you ever read the US Constitution? Wonderful piece of paper who fruit may be truly bared yet.

There is a difference between a democracy and a republic. Most people tend to forget that the US is a republic, and not a democracy.

As mentioned, the real bitch is to protect the minority from the majority.

Here again,..

I have read a bit about American history...which is really interesting. What was once an offense is now a blessing

Pakistan is not like Afghanistan,,,only cousins of Afgh are found up north and south west...they have a different culture.

They are overall religious minded....and yearn for Sharia.
They say they want it because secular laws have failed to provide them with speedy justice...and they are left open to criminal hazards.

Sharia surely provided security to citizens through stringent punitive laws...but it is not only laws that matter but the formation of a welfare culture...and for that one needs to work hard and earn and pay its taxes..

In a place where the real number of its citizens is not recorded one must not expect miraculous administration or organisation..
and it is foolish to compare a third world country with any developed country...given the differing socio economic and political situations there..

America is a secular country....but I noted that at heart it is still a Christian state. Bravo Bush!! You dreamt a crusade and have led the world into chaos once more!!

 

[The Man]

As a born Muslim I found Islam as most liberal of all religions...
there is no compulsion in Islam but who's going to make Taliban and their folks understand??
Why should I be forced to keep a beard?
Why shouldn't i not be allowed to watch tv?
Why should i be forced to pray 5 times a day??
Why should I be compelled to observe religious rituals as Taliban want??
Why should I obey their command??
Why should I put my women folk in a shroud??
Why should I not watch videos and movies??

Dont forget..why should I be executed for having a cell phone.
A picture.
A figurine.
Thing is maz...One could get executed and not really understand they were breaking the law at the time.
The pricks often kill just as a reminder to show who is boss.
Kill two and beat 40.
Dont you think its unfair to those 42 people just to be used randomly in the town to make a point?
Some villages are small MAZ..that can mean half the people are beat and two killed for no reason.

 

[The Man]

They are overall religious minded....and yearn for Sharia.
They say they want it because secular laws have failed to provide them with speedy justice...and they are left open to criminal hazards.

You have stated prior that all of PK wants sharia..now you claim this..which is it?

 

[mazHur]

In other words MAZ..we elect people to make those laws and choices for us.
Its far from perfect as the goal is to be elected rather than to serve the people...however you do get some good people in office

you are right ...but in any or all cases it is not praiseworthy.
unfortunately if we have one or two good people elected they are not allowed to work and become redundant...
Ezra Pound was right when he addressed your leaders as EUNUCHS ruling them!!

 

[mazHur]

You have stated prior that all of PK wants sharia..now you claim this..which is it?

OMG! you are either gotten too old or suffer from amnesia..

I said Pak is a Muslim majority country and most of its people still want Sharia...

 

[mazHur]

Dont forget..why should I be executed for having a cell phone.
A picture.
A figurine.
Thing is maz...One could get executed and not really understand they were breaking the law at the time.
The pricks often kill just as a reminder to show who is boss.
Kill two and beat 40.
Dont you think its unfair to those 42 people just to be used randomly in the town to make a point?
Some villages are small MAZ..that can mean half the people are beat and two killed for no reason.

Ignorance of law is no excuse. for example if you wnt to Saudia and broke their law you won't be able to save yerself from their laws...they will punish you the same way as they punish their own citixens

 

[The Man]

Ignorance of law is no excuse. for example if you wnt to Saudia and broke their law you won't be able to save yerself from their laws...they will punish you the same way as they punish their own citixens

You are missing the point...the laws are ridiculous.

Now I could say travel to Germany Canada Mexico..etc..just about any non mid east nation and stay out of trouble easy enough..simply by being honest.

 

[The Man]

OMG! you are either gotten too old or suffer from amnesia..

I said Pak is a Muslim majority country and most of its people still want Sharia...

You implied the people up north{where the Taliban reservations are} in the post I was referencing.
But yeah...ok...if all of pk wants sharia..I dont buy it....why would they kill the puritans they when they enter the city?????