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You have no clue what a debate is or what winning a debate means. Debates are not won by those expelling the most hot air, with the most staying power,

I haven't read the rest but I was wondering if this is also the recipe for successful hot air ballooning? You can hit me MA.......
 
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You have no clue what a debate is or what winning a debate means. Debates are not won by those expelling the most hot air, with the most staying power, and who don't realize they've made zero points with their contemporaries, in this case within this forum. Debates are won by convincing others of the superiority of your thoughts/premises. People walk away from you not because you won, but because arguing with a brick wall is a waste of time. By my reckoning, you haven't won a debate yet. For that, you'll have to change your tactics and inject meaningful substance into the discussion.

And you keep patting yourself on the back. I'm sure that serves you well in life.

Bullshit excuses....
 

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Are you saying that even if your wrong, you will bully your way in to winning an argument ?

Pretty extreme and I would think very un-Christian Like..

Not what I am saying at all. If those here would stop attacking me and actually debate you would see.
 

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Hey, you just won another debate. Congrats!


You could say that because I exposed your post for what it is...

But since you say "sometimes religion is good, sometimes it is really bad"...When is it really bad? Put up or shut up....
 
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Not what I am saying at all. If those here would stop attacking me and actually debate you would see.

That's exactly what you said depending on how you read or interpret the words.. Hence it's in the eye of the beholder.. But I am sure you will insist to argue its not. However the discussion ends here because it's not part of the OP.

Back on Topic please..
 

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That's exactly what you said depending on how you read or interpret the words.. Hence it's in the eye of the beholder.. But I am sure you will insist to argue its not. However the discussion ends here because it's not part of the OP.

Back on Topic please..

hahaha! Funny stuff, make accusations without backing them up....pathetic.
 

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OK listen, back on Topic... Last warning..

I gave my opinion in my first post of this thread, but it's hard to ignore the local troll, especially when he brings nothing to the conversation accept accusations and attacking member's character. It's not just this thread. It's every thread he participates in. There's bleedover...
 
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I gave my opinion in my first post of this thread, but it's hard to ignore the local troll, especially when he brings nothing to the conversation accept accusations and attacking member's character.

I am asking for a specific example of what you mean: Religion is sometimes bad....like when?


No, you just don't like my point of view. Take a look at your signature....it is dedicated to me as well as numerous attacks you make, like calling me a troll.
 
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What is bad about that? Do you understand the reference?

Yes I do...now could you explain what you think was bad about that? You see when most people make a statement like yours they can usually explain it. Believe it or not some people see that situation as bad but different aspects of it stand out. That is why I am asking.
 

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I gave my opinion in my first post of this thread, but it's hard to ignore the local troll, especially when he brings nothing to the conversation accept accusations and attacking member's character.

OK let's get past that..

Sometimes religion is good, sometimes it's really bad. My intent is not to get into a debate on how often it is good, but to express an opinion that unfortunately humans tend to corrupt religion as we do all endeavors.

My guess on why you are not answering would be because you simply have already ?

I do agree that humans tend to corrupt religions and that was the reason for me expressing my own observations of the Churches stating that money is evil yet asking for money from the other hand.

But there are many examples that one could use such as Religion is peaceful yet it has been the root cause of many wars.

I could never understand religions that would condone stonings and witch hunt burnings instead of trying to understand and help.

Some of the worst sex offenders are from the Churches. That would be by far not what a good and loving God would want..
 

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My guess on why you are not answering would be because you simply have already ?

No, he isn't answering so he can avoid the details and not have to explain his comments.

I do agree that humans tend to corrupt religions and that was the reason for me expressing my own observations of the Churches stating that money is evil yet asking for money from the other hand.

Which churches state that "money is evil"?

But there are many examples that one could use such as Religion is peaceful yet it has been the root cause of many wars.

Many wars? How many?
 

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My guess on why you are not answering would be because you simply have already ?

I do agree that humans tend to corrupt religions and that was the reason for me expressing my own observations of the Churches stating that money is evil yet asking for money from the other hand.

But there are many examples that one could use such as Religion is peaceful yet it has been the root cause of many wars.

I could never understand religions that would condone stonings and witch hunt burnings instead of trying to understand and help.

Some of the worst sex offenders are from the Churches. That would be by far not what a good and loving God would want..

Religion is tough, it has potential, but my experience indicates the potential is far from being achieved. It's highly susceptible to corruption, by the hands of the manipulators, seeking wealth and control, by the hypocrites who go to church every Sunday as if it was a free pass for the rest of the week's transgressions, and by the hedge-your-bets believers who stake their salvation on ancient scripts written by primitive superstitious men.

Searching for spiritual truth is an outstanding goal in life. How far can one get? Unknown. Until crossing the threshold, I don't see a way to reach any conclusions, only suspicions, desires, philosophical beliefs based on how to improve one's self, and maintaining hope that life indeed has a meaning outside the scope of a human life span.

PS: For participants of OTG, I just activated my ignore list, for the first time ever! Tired of wasting energy on the unsalvageable. Do you know how nice it is not to see long lists of idiotic posts. A breath of fresh air. :D:D
 
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