Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus || Spoken Word

[skywalker]

I think the Stanford Prison Experiment proves how people can turn to do bad things. It was done by Dr Phillip Zimbardo, a professor of psychology at Stanford at the time.

Zimbardo's book The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil, deals with the striking similarities between the Stanford Prison Experiment and the Abu Ghraib abuses. Neither had anything to do with religion. I believe just about anyone has the capacity to do bad things given the circumstances.

 

[Panacea]

I believe just about anyone has the capacity to do bad things given the circumstances.

I'd guess it's related to the survival instinct, and what types of events and outcomes the dominant society deems necessary to survive culturally...above just physically. That's where power and money and greed come into play.

 

[doombug]

I think the Stanford Prison Experiment proves how people can turn to do bad things. It was done by Dr Phillip Zimbardo, a professor of psychology at Stanford at the time.

Zimbardo's book The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil, deals with the striking similarities between the Stanford Prison Experiment and the Abu Ghraib abuses. Neither had anything to do with religion. I believe just about anyone has the capacity to do bad things given the circumstances.

I agree. Many people do seem to "go along" with the group think whether it is good or bad.

 

[Minor Axis]

I'm just killing time on a forum. But you do seem to be a dick.

:mwaha Repped! Every so often I hear this muffled noise. It's so nice not to have read daily idiocy.

I admit I'm a little thick headed. But what does that even mean?

Do your self a favor the don't ask...

Is it the Religion or the people that that do wonderful acts in the name of religion for religion?

It's probably a blur between those people who do good things because it feels good and those who do it because they feel God is smiling down upon them or somewhere in between.

I'm of the belief good people are good people, regardless of whichever god character they worship, whatever philosophy they hold, or whatever lack of conviction they have. I think bad people will use their stance to stay bad and "do bad" and genuinely good people do not need any sort of fear mongering cult to keep them good. It's personality and nature.

Surely some of those in between can be led one way or the other towards prosocial or antisocial behavior. In that case I am not sure what part religion actually plays. Biased sources have their assertions about that but I won't claim to know.

The big error is when religious people believe they only have morals because God taught them morals, or expects them to act in a certain way or the big stick will come out. For these feelings to be meaningful, they have to come from within, not be externally pushed on you, especially with the threat of punishment.

I think the Stanford Prison Experiment proves how people can turn to do bad things. It was done by Dr Phillip Zimbardo, a professor of psychology at Stanford at the time.

Zimbardo's book The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil, deals with the striking similarities between the Stanford Prison Experiment and the Abu Ghraib abuses. Neither had anything to do with religion. I believe just about anyone has the capacity to do bad things given the circumstances.

I assume you are speaking of mean guards, not mean prisoners? If prisoners, it could have something to do with that scale with basic survival on the bottom?

 

[Francis]

Surely some of those in between can be led one way or the other towards prosocial or antisocial behavior. In that case I am not sure what part religion actually plays. Biased sources have their assertions about that but I won't claim to know.

Again, it really depends.. Religion has no motive but it's purpose is to keep people within their guidelines.

Your yourself stated rightfully

Church is just another business, that's why it should be taxed

But I would go even further and say Church is set up in a Governmental business sense with the Heads of it, using fear if required, to keeping the sheep close and the strays even closer by.

When required Religion, through the Church, will push agenda's of the day.

Who wields more power, Government or the Churches?

 

[doombug]

But I would go even further and say Church is set up in a Governmental business sense with the Heads of it, using fear if required, to keeping the sheep close and the strays even closer by.

When required Religion, through the Church, will push agenda's of the day.

Who wields more power, Government or the Churches?

What century do you live in?

 

[CityGirl]

Again, it really depends.. Religion has no motive but it's purpose is to keep people within their guidelines.

Your yourself stated rightfully



But I would go even further and say Church is set up in a Governmental business sense with the Heads of it, using fear if required, to keeping the sheep close and the strays even closer by.

When required Religion, through the Church, will push agenda's of the day.

Who wields more power, Government or the Churches?

Each of those institutions are seen as authoritarian structures. To many, the power of the state is as influential as the power of the church but the nature/focus of the power is different.

 

[doombug]

Each of those institutions are seen as authoritarian structures. To many, the power of the state is as influential as the power of the church but the nature/focus of the power is different.

Here in the US it isn't like that. There is seperation of church and state. You must live in a different country.

 

[Zorak]

Here in the US it isn't like that. There is seperation of church and state.

In name only.

 

[Minor Axis]

In name only.

Agreed from a desire standpoint. I think we still have some separation, but there is a group who would be thrilled and have been actively working for the last 30 years to get lousy politicians elected for the imagined result of defacto have the Church writing our laws.

 

[doombug]

In name only.

Really? That is quite the conspiracy theory.