What is your belief?

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TheOriginalJames

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That student sounds horribly brainwashed.

"No one has any sensory perception of your brain, therefore it doesn't exist right?"

Give me a break. You wouldn't live without a brain, that point is nothing more than absurd and ignorant.
 
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Friends, you really are confused and frustrated still you have ample of time to improve.....

Your illogical questions are baseless, this is just because your knowledge is limited and is trapped in this VIRTUAL world anyways, you may continue with your so called BELIEFS or whatever you call them.

But the ultimate truth will never change........... :)
 

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The word religion is derived from the Latin word ‘religare’, which means 'to bind'. Religion may be said to bind us by rules, laws or injunctions so that we may not degenerate, and we may not be in misery -- bodily, mentally or selfly. Religion is just an art of living through right action and right contemplation. The purpose of religion is considered to make you a good human being, a good citizen, a happy and contented person. Religion helps one build social and moral character and prevent the individual from self-degradation. Though religion ensures ethical living and character-building, yet it is not capable of liberating the individual from cyclic bondage of Virtual World. Religion is under 'Doing System'. Dharma is totally different from religion. Dharma is under ‘Being System’.
Please note here that the rules and laws on which any religion is based and abiding by which the individual’s life is said to be not degenerating or not downfalling, may be the outcome and formation of some experienced human minds and understanding. On such human experiences and understandings, rules and laws of any religion are formed, so there may be so many religions as per the varying experiences and understandings according to the situation, circumstances and country. On the basis of various convictions of multiple personalities, there may be many religions and one religion may vary from the other. One may differ from the other. There may be or may not be some similarities or any coherence amongst them.
The best meaning of the term Dharma is the "Law of Being" without which the things cannot exist, as light and heat in the sun is no sun. Similarly, the essential factor in the universe for its existence is GOD without Whom nothing can exist. Therefore, the Dharma of any one is GOD. Hence, any performance towards GOD and for the sake of GOD is Dharma. Dharma is the natural universal laws whose observance enables one to save oneself from degradation, bondage, suffering and discontentment. If we follow Dharma fully, it will make us contended and upgrading. Thus Dharma is the very foundation of one's life. Dharma is under 'Being System'.
Please note here that Dharma is not religion or religion is not Dharma. Dharma is natural while religion is worldly. Dharma relates with GOD while religion relates with Virtual World. Dharma is One while religions are many. Dharma is very great and wide enough to cover the whole universe, while religion is limited to mankind.
Now we must note again that Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian, Yahoodi etc are not Dharma, they may be categorised as religions. Sanatan, Islam, True Sikhism, True Christianity are the same name of a single Dharma. They are Dharma if 'Truely' as per the GODly Principles. And if they are as per GODly Principles, they are only 'ONE'. So, Dharma is only ONE which is not only better for us, but best for all.
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The best meaning of the term Dharma is the "Law of Being" without which the things and the entities cannot exist, as light and heat in the sun is no sun. Similarly, the essential factor in the universe for its existence is GOD without Whom nothing can exist. Therefore, the Dharma of any one is GOD. Hence, any performance towards GOD and for the sake of GOD is Dharma. Dharma is made of naturally universal laws whose observance enables one to save oneself from degradation, bondage, suffering and discontentment. If we follow Dharma fully, it will make us contended and upgrading. Thus Dharma is the very foundation of one's life. Dharma is under 'Being System'. Dharma is only ONE as GOD is only ONE.

We may define Dharma as the "Laws of GOD" through which HE reproduces, maintains and controls HIS universe. Dharma is not bound by any one and is not limited to any group or sect. We must adopt that very Dharma which is just related with Khuda-GOD-Bhagwan only, which is Eternal with GOD. That only Dharma is differently named as 'Sanatan Dharma' in Sanskrit, 'Islaam Deen' in Arabic and 'True Christianity' in English.

The word religion is derived from the Latin word ‘religare’, which means 'to bind'. Religion may be said to bind us by rules, laws or injunctions so that we may not degenerate, and we may not be in misery -- bodily, mentally or selfly. Religion is just an art of living through right action and right contemplation. The purpose of religion is considered to make you a good human being, a good citizen, a happy and contented person. Religion helps one build social and moral character and prevent the individual from self-degradation. Though religion ensures ethical living and character-building, yet it is not capable of liberating the individual from cyclic bondage of Virtual World. Religion is under 'Doing System'. Dharma is totally different from religion. Dharma is under ‘Being System’.

Please note here that the rules and laws on which any religion is based and abiding by which the individual’s life is said to be not degenerating or not downfalling, may be the outcome and formation of some experienced human minds and understanding. On such human experiences and understandings, rules and laws of any religion are formed, so there may be so many religions as per the varying experiences and understandings according to the situation, circumstances and country. On the basis of various convictions of multiple personalities, there may be many religions and one religion may vary from the other. One may differ from the other. There may be or may not be some similarities or any coherence amongst them.

The best meaning of the term Dharma is the "Law of Being" without which the things cannot exist, as light and heat in the sun is no sun. Similarly, the essential factor in the universe for its existence is GOD without Whom nothing can exist. Therefore, the Dharma of any one is GOD. Hence, any performance towards GOD and for the sake of GOD is Dharma. Dharma is the natural universal laws whose observance enables one to save oneself from degradation, bondage, suffering and discontentment. If we follow Dharma fully, it will make us contended and upgrading. Thus Dharma is the very foundation of one's life. Dharma is under 'Being System'.

Please note here that Dharma is not religion or religion is not Dharma. Dharma is natural while religion is worldly. Dharma relates with GOD while religion relates with Virtual World. Dharma is One while religions are many. Dharma is very great and wide enough to cover the whole universe, while religion is limited to mankind.

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Friends, you really are confused and frustrated still you have ample of time to improve.....

Your illogical questions are baseless, this is just because your knowledge is limited and is trapped in this VIRTUAL world anyways, you may continue with your so called BELIEFS or whatever you call them.

But the ultimate truth will never change........... :)

Ok continue to preach to me, we'll see what happens when you start getting ignored.
 

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I am not a preacher you are assuming me ... I am just doing a debate as you are .. but seems you are more frustrated ... you may ignore me if it makes you happy .. :)
 

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Ok,

I have been reading through the Numorous (sp) pages.. to the point of Skimming them.


So I just want to say this.

SAM--STOP

It is great that you believe in GOD, I believe in god, a lot of us believe in GOD.

But your insistence that you need or have ot convince everyone else to believe in him is not right. That is the problem most people, as many have stated here Have.. They dont want or need someone forcing their thoughts and beliefs on them.. nor someone condeming them or their beliefs.

Fact is some people don't believe, and some people Never will believe. That is their right

Let's put it this way SAM.

you yourself have said in a few posts.. and im not going word for word or quoting you, but you talk about the reincarnation and such.

Have you ever thought about the fact that some people perhaps for reasons we can not understand are not meant to believe in GOD.. that there is a reason why there are diffrent beliefs.

Face it, if no one had their own opinions, and there were not any non-believers, the world would be a muh diffrent place, and I am not sure it would be as good as some may want to believe. there has to be balance .. there has to be doubt to have faith.

If GOD has a plan, which I am sure he does.
If our paths are already written in our charts, are you not forgetting that their belief or lack of belief is something they have written for themselves in their Charts.

I dont pretend to know or understand why thier charts would be written in this manner, but it was a chosen path?

Perhap there is a lesson they must learn, and the unbelief they have is part of that lesson... But for reasons none of can know or understand, this is the way they chose to write thier charts, this is the road their guides lead them down, This is part of GOD's plan.

To try and force your thoughts and will upon other people may be in your charts, but it also discourages people from GOD also.

Like many things in life, nature is to be disconforming, the more you try to convince someone that you are right the less they are going to be willing to listen.

If people are to believe in GOD, it will be because of their own experiances, Not because of the thoughts forced on them by others, and not because of the Guilt others try to lay on them for their lack of, and also they are not going to become faithful and believers simply because they are told that to not believe is their own eternal damnation.

We dont know anyones damnation, As I said, If their Charts lead them to be unfaithful, and they follow the path their guides choose for them, then it is up to GOD in the end what their reward or lack of will be,.. And perhaps it is only this life that they lack acceptance, for we dont know what they will write in thier charts for their next life....

It is good to be strong in faith, it is not good to try and Make other people follow your path, if their nature does not take them down that road... thier charts will lead them where they need to go.. and your faith should find comfort in knowing that they are not always on the wrong road just because they don't have the same faith in you.

Take from your own words.. and your own faith, sometimes you can learn from the lack of faith in others.
 

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I have just replied to those questions which were asked.... now if you think I am forcing my thoughts then I can't help to change you view....
 

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I have just replied to those questions which were asked.... now if you think I am forcing my thoughts then I can't help to change you view....


don't get me wrong sam, Replying is great, but unfortunatly mnay of your posts do take on the feel of trying to hard to convience.. and that pushes people farther away. Debating the aspects of religion is good for many things, But trying to hard to convince that any thing less then belief is a ticket to damnation.. ????
 

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I have just replied to those questions which were asked.... now if you think I am forcing my thoughts then I can't help to change you view....

How do you not get it? That's the point. I do not need, nor do I even remotely WANT you to 'help' change my views.

Fact is I changed my views from believing to not believing in anything supernatural after having all of this force fed to me growing up.

That's the whole idea, I DO NOT WANT you to 'help'. At all. Period. End of discussion.
 

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I didn't look at this thread to begin with...and decided to look at the last post...and it's pretty much going the way that I thought it would.
 

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Oh I knew right from the start that this is where it'd be. Just didn't think it'd take 16 pages for me to get fed up.

Wait... It only took 2 pages the first time I got annoyed with it.
 

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I didn't look at this thread to begin with...and decided to look at the last post...and it's pretty much going the way that I thought it would.
It is becoming a battle to remember.
I think this thread is getting a few people ticked off though.
 

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Man has been discussing religion and whether there is a God or not for thousands of years and no one still knows, I don't think it'll get sorted out on one thread on an internet forum!
 

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I'm definitely not pissed off. I love it when someone tries to convert me. I used to have a locker right next door to a very insistent christian who used to pray for my soul. It was so much fun infuriating him.

I reckon if people want to waste their time on religion, then good luck to them.

Allan
 
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