What is your attitude to gays and lesbians?

[Tim]

Hey duc, you still haven't said anything about that atheist site you posted... Betty Bowers? :24:

 

[retro]

What your not understanding is I dont like the behaviors of Gay people. You cant prove to me they are born that way, therefore they can change. I mean if a gay person cant control who they are attracted to, and that makes it ok... what about pedophiles and necrofiliacs? Im sure pedos dont control the fact they like little kids and necros dont control their attraction to dead bodies.

So you're okay with someone being gay... as long as they don't act on it?

 

[The Doc]

Hey duc, you still haven't said anything about that atheist site you posted... Betty Bowers? :24:

They had a link to another exgay ministry on there. ill be honest i had no clue who betty bower is. not an aeithiest. it is funny though.

So you're okay with someone being gay... as long as they don't act on it?

If they dont act on it, how would i know they are gay? I run a busy life. I cant take time out of my day to run around looking for gay people...lol

 

[Tim]

Yes, Mrs Betty Bowers is a site created and run by atheists... I suggest you go watch her videos... she is making fun of your beloved religion... :24:

I'm not surprised though. Your attention to detail when it comes to providing links to support your views are all just as shoddy...

 

[The Doc]

Yes, Mrs Betty Bowers is a site created and run by atheists... I suggest you go watch her videos... she is making fun of your beloved religion... :24:

I'm not surprised though. Your attention to detail when it comes to providing links to support your views are all just as shoddy...

I should have looked through it, your right. theres a link there though, i should have just gave that address. My fault. We all make mistakes.

Im sure she has many videos making fun of my religeon, as there is for pretty much every religeon. No matter what, i keep believing

 

[darkcgi]

you guys are funny
bible throat cramming
I seriously doubt thats what he want you to do

here is a thought if you want someone to believe something you believe let them view it passively and in a super possitive manner

none of this im right your wrong
im smart your stupid so you should believe what I do

here is another one this one is slippery
this is what I believe
Im not trying to cram it down your throught Im just speaking my mind
It ok if you dont believe
but your stupid for not believing

take your pic now while this goes on between two people
many others are viewing and thinking and listening is this the person you want to be or is this the person
you dont realize that you are

 

[Francis]

A little gangster wouldent let you out of his world?

Woh Back up the truck son.. You're the one who threw out the word Gangster like you know what it was.. And like I said you had no idea what one was.. If you mean a little punk on the street that sells drugs, that ain't no Gangster..

Black, asian and muslim people... Well black people are born black, as are asians and caucasians. I am not a racist. Dont try and make me look like one. Muslim people, i have plenty of muslim friends and family members. You dont want to be christian, thats not my problem. Believe in what you want, more space in heaven for me.

I am not making you look like anything. I am just asking you questions.. And as usual you avoided to answer me just as you avoid answering all other questions. So again....

Conceivably all those could be forced to change their lives through medical procedures. Blacks could have white skin, Asians could also have medical procedures and Muslims could be converter to Christianity so why not force the world to all be white and blue eyed Christians ?

What your not understanding is I dont like the behaviors of Gay people. You cant prove to me they are born that way, therefore they can change. I mean if a gay person cant control who they are attracted to, and that makes it ok... what about pedophiles and necrofiliacs? Im sure pedos dont control the fact they like little kids and necros dont control their attraction to dead bodies.

I already told you I understood and that you had the right to not like gays.. Can't you read ? Tell me that isn't what I said ?

I also asked you if any Gays had every done anything wrong to you and you said NO..

So why are you worried about their behavior ? Has one asked you out ? Or perhaps you are vexed because none has ?

The Onus is on you to prove with all the evidence provided in this thread that Gays are NOT born the way they are and not the other way around.

I also asked is that you did not distort the facts and lumping people who truly have a real medical condition ( pedophiles ) with people who don't ( Gays ) to prove your point. That would be like me saying "Oh the proof that Obama has remove the "don't ask don't tell" would suggest to me that all American Army personnel are Gay" which is false but makes a damn good point to hit below the belt.

 

[Joe the meek]

Hey duc, you still haven't said anything about that atheist site you posted... Betty Bowers? :24:

And you still haven't answered my question on where in ANY of my posts I've bashed gays.

I've asked you twice now with no response. If you made a mistake be a man and admit it, or answer my question. I know a lot of people like you in the real world.

 

[Shekii]

Doc, you're now just digging a bigger hole . Be careful you don't fall in (jokes).

For the communities sake, can we get a mod/admin to close this thread? It will go on forever.

 

[retro]

If they dont act on it, how would i know they are gay? I run a busy life. I cant take time out of my day to run around looking for gay people...lol

That's my point... you just don't want to be subjected to or made aware that there are gay people

:24:

 

[darkcgi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYOmHpxW1sA&feature=player_detailpage

 

[Panacea]

Sorry to hear about your dad. That's got to be rough.

You should consider the fact doc doesn't like you as a compliment. I certainly hope he doesn't like me.

Welcome to OTZ!

:24::24: one can only hope, right?

 

[The Doc]

Woh Back up the truck son.. You're the one who threw out the word Gangster like you know what it was.. And like I said you had no idea what one was.. If you mean a little punk on the street that sells drugs, that ain't no Gangster..




I am not making you look like anything. I am just asking you questions.. And as usual you avoided to answer me just as you avoid answering all other questions. So again....

Conceivably all those could be forced to change their lives through medical procedures. Blacks could have white skin, Asians could also have medical procedures and Muslims could be converter to Christianity so why not force the world to all be white and blue eyed Christians ?



I already told you I understood and that you had the right to not like gays.. Can't you read ? Tell me that isn't what I said ?

I also asked you if any Gays had every done anything wrong to you and you said NO..

So why are you worried about their behavior ? Has one asked you out ? Or perhaps you are vexed because none has ?

The Onus is on you to prove with all the evidence provided in this thread that Gays are NOT born the way they are and not the other way around.

I also asked is that you did not distort the facts and lumping people who truly have a real medical condition ( pedophiles ) with people who don't ( Gays ) to prove your point. That would be like me saying "Oh the proof that Obama has remove the "don't ask don't tell" would suggest to me that all American Army personnel are Gay" which is false but makes a damn good point to hit below the belt.

1. the definition of a gangster is a person in a gang/involved in orginized crime

2. Blacks are born black and asians are born asian. Im sure they could get medical procedures done to look different. If they want to do it, thats on them. As for people forcing muslims to convert to christianity, thats not showing Gods Love by christians, that is showing violence. Therefore the people wouldent actually believe, they would be resenting. If you are luke warm you are not a christian. Why not force the world to be blonde haired blue eyes Christians? Well, for one thing that would mean i have to get a surgery. I would never make people do things that would inconvience me, out of my own will, and for no reason.

3.So why am i worried about Gay behavior? Has a gay guy asked me out?
Why am I worried about their behavior when it doesnt affect me? The same reason you would be worried about a pedophiles behavior, or any other sex offenders behavior. Oh and a gay guy has tried to hit on me before. Long story, funnt story. Well, not so funny for that guy.

4. How can I prove that gays werent born gay, easy one. The fact you cant genetically find a gay gene. Same as you cant find a heterosexual gene. Any person can go left or right depending on their upbringing. People identify homosexual, then get cured and become heterosexual, and vice vera. If you want this evidence just ask.

5. Pedophelia, Necrophelia, Homosexuality its all one of the same thing. Abnormal sexual behavior, also to add that there is no neurology or medical issues within true pedophiles, thats another issue altogether.

6. Elaborate for me your dont ask dont tell comment. Its a pretty shitty analogy. I dont understand what your getting at. Im assuming your trying to say my comparing pedophiles to homosexuals is that ridiculous of an analogy that your comparing dont ask dont tell reappeal to all aoldiers being gay? The reason I use them is because pedophiles are with homosexuals in the catagory of abnormal deviant sexual behavior.

Also wanted to add, I am not out to try and cure homosexuals. Its their choice to get help or not.. I have too much going on to try and force change among that group. If a gay dude approaches me, i will educate him on treatment. If he doesnt want it, its his problem not mine. All I am saying is its cureable.

Doc, you're now just digging a bigger hole . Be careful you don't fall in (jokes).

For the communities sake, can we get a mod/admin to close this thread? It will go on forever.

How so? I seem to be winning. They just keep telling me I am a bigot, and not proving to me that homosexuality is something permanent from birth, therefore its reverseable.

That's my point... you just don't want to be subjected to or made aware that there are gay people

:24:

Yeah, thats it. My room mate could be a pedophile. But i dont know that so theres no issues. If i found him on the sex offender registry though, that would change things.

 

[Shekii]

The doc, please stop copying and pasting crap on Wikipedia. If your just copying and pasting why not just DON'T comment.

It just shows that you don't have any communication skills of your own.

 

[The Doc]

what did i copy and paste without quoting?

 

[retro]

How so? I seem to be winning. They just keep telling me I am a bigot, and not proving to me that homosexuality is something permanent from birth, therefore its reverseable.

Winning? :24: Dude... let me break this down for you in very simple terms. Homosexuality doesn't need to be a genetic thing for you to be a bigot for hating homosexuals. Religion is voluntary, and hating someone because of their religious beliefs is every bit as much bigotry as hating someone for their sexual orientation.

Yeah, thats it. My room mate could be a pedophile. But i dont know that so theres no issues. If i found him on the sex offender registry though, that would change things.

Because you hate homosexuals.

 

[Panacea]

What's funny is, whether or not a person is born gay is irrelevant in the discuss about whether a person is a bigot or not.

Bigot: "The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religion or spirituality, nationality, language, inter-regional prejudice, gender and sexual orientation, age, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders." from the pool of infinite knowledge: Wikipedia.

It doesn't have to be intolerance for something a person is born with. So...NEXT.

 

[Guyzerr]

Bigot: "The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religion or spirituality, nationality, language, inter-regional prejudice, gender and sexual orientation, age, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders." from the pool of infinite knowledge: Wikipedia.

That pretty much includes just about everyone on the planet is some way, shape or form. :24:

 

[Panacea]

That pretty much includes just about everyone on the planet is some way, shape or form. :24:

Maybe in your angry little world

 

[The Doc]

Winning? :24: Dude... let me break this down for you in very simple terms. Homosexuality doesn't need to be a genetic thing for you to be a bigot for hating homosexuals. Religion is voluntary, and hating someone because of their religious beliefs is every bit as much bigotry as hating someone for their sexual orientation.



Because you hate homosexuals.

Alright, so you still cant prove to me that homosexual is genetic, therefore their behavior can chnge.

Now most of you will start to get desperate because you will be losing your arguments, and resort to juvinile tactitcs like name calling. Call me a bigot all you want. it doesnt bother me. You still lose, i still win.