lol yeah it's a great feud, I just hate when they sweep other feuds under the rug like that lol. You know Triple H can't come back without settling the score with Sheamus, rofl at Sheamus's new KING Gimmick, I saw Raw for the first time in months the other day and saw that, that's great. You never know though they might decide to make Hunter a villain again(he's way better as a villain IMO) and have him join up with Sheamus, maybe even start a new faction, that would be pretty epic.
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lol yeah it's a great feud, I just hate when they sweep other feuds under the rug like that lol. You know Triple H can't come back without settling the score with Sheamus, rofl at Sheamus's new KING Gimmick, I saw Raw for the first time in months the other day and saw that, that's great. You never know though they might decide to make Hunter a villain again(he's way better as a villain IMO) and have him join up with Sheamus, maybe even start a new faction, that would be pretty epic.
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Springsteen
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It would be 
Triple H hasn't been a heel since 2005 I think. I remember him being brought back by Ric Flair (who was then a face) but then he turned on Flair, I guess he was booked as a heel but for some reason got cheered. I suppose to be a pedant he turned face in 2006 when DX reunited. The King gimmick is fine but my problem is it has the feeling of a midcard gimmick when Sheamus should be a main eventer. Hopefully Triple H's return will help.
Triple H hasn't been a heel since 2005 I think. I remember him being brought back by Ric Flair (who was then a face) but then he turned on Flair, I guess he was booked as a heel but for some reason got cheered. I suppose to be a pedant he turned face in 2006 when DX reunited. The King gimmick is fine but my problem is it has the feeling of a midcard gimmick when Sheamus should be a main eventer. Hopefully Triple H's return will help.
It would be
Triple H hasn't been a heel since 2005 I think. I remember him being brought back by Ric Flair (who was then a face) but then he turned on Flair, I guess he was booked as a heel but for some reason got cheered. I suppose to be a pedant he turned face in 2006 when DX reunited. The King gimmick is fine but my problem is it has the feeling of a midcard gimmick when Sheamus should be a main eventer. Hopefully Triple H's return will help.
They can do like a KING OF KINGS Vs KING OF THE RING thing lol, though I like the sound of an alliance better, they can come out in crowns with matching facial hair and Reek Havok in the WWE :24:
Here is how I would have the scenario play out if I wrote the storylines:
It's been a long, grueling Rumble, there is just one entrant left and the only guys left in the ring are Sheamus and John Morrison, and then it comes time for the final entrant and Triple H's theme comes on, he enters the ring and it's just the three of them staring eachother down, when suddenly to the shock and dismay of the fans Hunter and Sheamus both turn on Morrison in Unison, eliminating him. Triple H then eliminates HIMSELF allowing for Sheamus to win the Rumble. The next day on RAW Triple H explains his actions. Sheamus earned his respect when he took him out, and he's starting to get on in years and knows his time in the sport is coming to an end, so he's decided to take Sheamus under his wing, and teach him everything he knows so that Sheamus can continue his legacy. With The Game's help Sheamus goes on to take the belt from The Miz(or Orton, whoever has the belt) at Wrestlemania, at which point Sheamus turns on Triple H because he got what he wanted out of him and doesn't want to share the spotlight anymore. So then Hunter and Sheamus resume their old feud and it all ends with Triple H defeating Sheamus in a Hell in a Cell to earn his 14th(and probably final) World Championship.
It's been a long, grueling Rumble, there is just one entrant left and the only guys left in the ring are Sheamus and John Morrison, and then it comes time for the final entrant and Triple H's theme comes on, he enters the ring and it's just the three of them staring eachother down, when suddenly to the shock and dismay of the fans Hunter and Sheamus both turn on Morrison in Unison, eliminating him. Triple H then eliminates HIMSELF allowing for Sheamus to win the Rumble. The next day on RAW Triple H explains his actions. Sheamus earned his respect when he took him out, and he's starting to get on in years and knows his time in the sport is coming to an end, so he's decided to take Sheamus under his wing, and teach him everything he knows so that Sheamus can continue his legacy. With The Game's help Sheamus goes on to take the belt from The Miz(or Orton, whoever has the belt) at Wrestlemania, at which point Sheamus turns on Triple H because he got what he wanted out of him and doesn't want to share the spotlight anymore. So then Hunter and Sheamus resume their old feud and it all ends with Triple H defeating Sheamus in a Hell in a Cell to earn his 14th(and probably final) World Championship.
Springsteen
Number 2, Rafael!
Not a bad scenario. I think Sheamus will win the Title again this year at some point.
I am also of the belief that Miz's Title reign may end at Elimination Chamber IF they want to go with Cena/Orton at Mania, but with the faith WWE do have in The Miz, it wouldn't surprise me if he kept it until Wrestlemania. I don't think WWE will be doing a MITB ladder match this year at Mania because of the PPV of the same name in July. The story goes WWE were going to keep with the July MITB PPV IF it did a good buyrate (it did 165,000 - not bad in the current climate) and not have the Mania one because it would be difficult to book three seperate MITB holders (last year remember they had to put the belt on Swagger immediately because of it). The idea is they will have one cash in in straight away or shortly after the PPV and then have the other hold it for a while and tease cash in's (Like Miz in 2010).
I am also of the belief that Miz's Title reign may end at Elimination Chamber IF they want to go with Cena/Orton at Mania, but with the faith WWE do have in The Miz, it wouldn't surprise me if he kept it until Wrestlemania. I don't think WWE will be doing a MITB ladder match this year at Mania because of the PPV of the same name in July. The story goes WWE were going to keep with the July MITB PPV IF it did a good buyrate (it did 165,000 - not bad in the current climate) and not have the Mania one because it would be difficult to book three seperate MITB holders (last year remember they had to put the belt on Swagger immediately because of it). The idea is they will have one cash in in straight away or shortly after the PPV and then have the other hold it for a while and tease cash in's (Like Miz in 2010).
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Most fans would shit on that no offense haha
Sorry, but Paul Michael just ain't gonna do that.
The earliest I can see him admitting that he's getting long in the tooth is when he's handing his daughter the Women's Title. :24:
Peter Parka
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TNA is returning in February on freeview!:thumbup
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/3371065/TNA-set-for-Freeview.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/3371065/TNA-set-for-Freeview.html
Springsteen
Number 2, Rafael!
I consider is a great challenge to watch TNA without wanting to drink myself to death, so an appropiate channel really.
In all seriousness good move for them, more people will watch it if it's on freeview.
Also
http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread.php?t=71651
In all seriousness good move for them, more people will watch it if it's on freeview.
Also
http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread.php?t=71651
Speaking of the Royal Rumble (somebody was earlier- go ahead and look)...
Any guesses on who wins it? Or on the "special attractions" this year?
I'm leaning towards a returning HHH being #40... but knowing him I wouldn't be shocked if he came out as Number 1 and went the distance just so he could lay claim to the only person to ever go "1 for 40".
Any guesses on who wins it? Or on the "special attractions" this year?
I'm leaning towards a returning HHH being #40... but knowing him I wouldn't be shocked if he came out as Number 1 and went the distance just so he could lay claim to the only person to ever go "1 for 40".
Springsteen
Number 2, Rafael!
I'm convinced it'll be John Cena now.
I think Triple H will come back and win it too, I'd LOL if they had him enter at #1.
Springsteen
Number 2, Rafael!
All this courtesy of Dave Meltzer, soon to be copied by the downmarket news sites. With added thoughts from me in bold.
-- Wrestling Observer Reader Awards 2011:
John Cena was voted Wrestler Of The Year, by almost double the votes of Takashi Sugiura in 2nd place. Chris Jericho placed 5th, The Miz at 8th, and Kurt Angle at 9th. Daniel Bryan was Most Outstanding Wrestler. Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli won Tag Team Of The Year. Chael Sonnen won Best Interviewee, just ahead of The Miz and CM Punk. Kaval won Most Underrated. ROH won Best Weekly Show. Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels took Best Match, with MCMG vs. Beer Money taking 9th and Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler taking 10th. Vickie Guerrero won Best Personality by a landslide. Alberto Del Rio took Best Gimmick.
Kane was Most Overrated Wrestler, and took Worst Feud with Edge. Orlando Jordan won Worst Gimmick, TNA Hardcore Justice was voted Worst PPV, Stand Up For WWE was Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic, Impact was Worst TV Show by nearly three times the votes over 2nd place, and TNA won Worst Promotion by around 15 times more votes than IWA Mid South in 2nd.
Can't really argue with any of them, the tag team stuff in ROH has been spectacular. Michaels/Taker should always win match of the year, even in the TNA awards
-- The Nashville Fairgrounds, built especially for pro wrestling and used by TNA before it moved to Orlando, is no longer being closed down as was originally planned. It will remain open until 2012 minimum.
-- Kevin Nash has confirmed that he is in talks with TNA about returning.
-- AJ Styles' brother has gone into MMA promoting, and AJ himself is helping to fund it.
-- TNA drew 550 fans in Lyon, which is considered a big disappointment for the travel. They've done much better in the UK and Ireland.
-- It's very likely that Linda McMahon will run for senate again, which means more money being wasted on a campaign. It's been mentioned a fair bit lately, how both Vince McMahon and Bob Carter are great businessmen, throwing their money away to keep their women (wife in Vince's case, daughter in Bob's case) out of the main business for a bit and keep them happy.
-- WWE HOF tickets have been selling very well since Shawn Michaels was announced. He has requested Ric Flair to attend, which WWE would probably allow (although not on camera) if Shawn wants it that much. TNA may not be keen on the idea, but Flair has a reputation in TNA for getting away with things that no one else would, purely because he's Ric Flair. Other names suggested are The Road Warriors, Bob Armstrong, and Abdullah The Butcher who has support in, of all people, Triple H.
-- The 2012 class is already being discussed, with The Rock and Trish Stratus leading the pack.
Trish would make sense as Mania 28 is in Toronto I believe. Plus Trish is the best female wrestler the WWE have had in the modern era.
-- Meltzer on WWE business: "If not for outside losing business (XFL, Restaurant, movies), I believe [WWE] would have never had an unprofitable quarter since 1997. It is not profitable enough to sustain the current dividend, but that’s also been the case for some time. It is significant that profit margins are down from last December when there was significant cost cutting and we’re told the economy is better (as long as unemployment is high, I don’t believe the economy is truly better and also high unemployment may affect WWE revenues more if you believe they draw on a percentage higher among lower income families and all stats to indicate that being the case). WWE gave no indication where the shortfall was. Merchandise revenue through November was ahead of last year, and Christmas this year was overall better than last year for most retailers. House shows are soft and PPV business is down, but neither are down enough for the difference between this year’s numbers and last year’s numbers not even factoring in cost savings. So there was some sort of a new expense, or something on the merchandising, movie or licensing end. Whatever it is, it will come out on 2/10."
-- Undertaker vs. Wade Barrett, as of this week, is the Wrestlemania main event.
This changes a lot with the various changes in Taker's will he/won't he health. He could potentially return and just work a short match with Barrett, but WWE must be careful to not just make this look a squash either. I know this will be Taker's last Mania though, that's pretty much accepted.
-- Ric Flair being removed from the WWE All-Stars game is not a WWE bully tactic. TNA own Ric Flair's merchandise rights. They don't own Hogan, which is why he is in the game.
-- Vince McMahon's contract is designed so that he could conceivably be fired, given a severance package and a one-year no-compete clause.
-- There were rumours, although it's looking more and more unlikely, that Kimbo Slice would be at Wrestlemania. With the Brock deal all but dead, they need something.
-- Wrestling Observer Reader Awards 2011:
John Cena was voted Wrestler Of The Year, by almost double the votes of Takashi Sugiura in 2nd place. Chris Jericho placed 5th, The Miz at 8th, and Kurt Angle at 9th. Daniel Bryan was Most Outstanding Wrestler. Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli won Tag Team Of The Year. Chael Sonnen won Best Interviewee, just ahead of The Miz and CM Punk. Kaval won Most Underrated. ROH won Best Weekly Show. Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels took Best Match, with MCMG vs. Beer Money taking 9th and Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler taking 10th. Vickie Guerrero won Best Personality by a landslide. Alberto Del Rio took Best Gimmick.
Kane was Most Overrated Wrestler, and took Worst Feud with Edge. Orlando Jordan won Worst Gimmick, TNA Hardcore Justice was voted Worst PPV, Stand Up For WWE was Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic, Impact was Worst TV Show by nearly three times the votes over 2nd place, and TNA won Worst Promotion by around 15 times more votes than IWA Mid South in 2nd.
Can't really argue with any of them, the tag team stuff in ROH has been spectacular. Michaels/Taker should always win match of the year, even in the TNA awards
-- The Nashville Fairgrounds, built especially for pro wrestling and used by TNA before it moved to Orlando, is no longer being closed down as was originally planned. It will remain open until 2012 minimum.
-- Kevin Nash has confirmed that he is in talks with TNA about returning.
-- AJ Styles' brother has gone into MMA promoting, and AJ himself is helping to fund it.
-- TNA drew 550 fans in Lyon, which is considered a big disappointment for the travel. They've done much better in the UK and Ireland.
-- It's very likely that Linda McMahon will run for senate again, which means more money being wasted on a campaign. It's been mentioned a fair bit lately, how both Vince McMahon and Bob Carter are great businessmen, throwing their money away to keep their women (wife in Vince's case, daughter in Bob's case) out of the main business for a bit and keep them happy.
-- WWE HOF tickets have been selling very well since Shawn Michaels was announced. He has requested Ric Flair to attend, which WWE would probably allow (although not on camera) if Shawn wants it that much. TNA may not be keen on the idea, but Flair has a reputation in TNA for getting away with things that no one else would, purely because he's Ric Flair. Other names suggested are The Road Warriors, Bob Armstrong, and Abdullah The Butcher who has support in, of all people, Triple H.
-- The 2012 class is already being discussed, with The Rock and Trish Stratus leading the pack.
Trish would make sense as Mania 28 is in Toronto I believe. Plus Trish is the best female wrestler the WWE have had in the modern era.
-- Meltzer on WWE business: "If not for outside losing business (XFL, Restaurant, movies), I believe [WWE] would have never had an unprofitable quarter since 1997. It is not profitable enough to sustain the current dividend, but that’s also been the case for some time. It is significant that profit margins are down from last December when there was significant cost cutting and we’re told the economy is better (as long as unemployment is high, I don’t believe the economy is truly better and also high unemployment may affect WWE revenues more if you believe they draw on a percentage higher among lower income families and all stats to indicate that being the case). WWE gave no indication where the shortfall was. Merchandise revenue through November was ahead of last year, and Christmas this year was overall better than last year for most retailers. House shows are soft and PPV business is down, but neither are down enough for the difference between this year’s numbers and last year’s numbers not even factoring in cost savings. So there was some sort of a new expense, or something on the merchandising, movie or licensing end. Whatever it is, it will come out on 2/10."
-- Undertaker vs. Wade Barrett, as of this week, is the Wrestlemania main event.
This changes a lot with the various changes in Taker's will he/won't he health. He could potentially return and just work a short match with Barrett, but WWE must be careful to not just make this look a squash either. I know this will be Taker's last Mania though, that's pretty much accepted.
-- Ric Flair being removed from the WWE All-Stars game is not a WWE bully tactic. TNA own Ric Flair's merchandise rights. They don't own Hogan, which is why he is in the game.
-- Vince McMahon's contract is designed so that he could conceivably be fired, given a severance package and a one-year no-compete clause.
-- There were rumours, although it's looking more and more unlikely, that Kimbo Slice would be at Wrestlemania. With the Brock deal all but dead, they need something.
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Peter Parka
Well-Known Member
TNA is going from strength to strength unlike WWE which is a pile of shit right now.
Springsteen
Number 2, Rafael!
I wouldn't say strength to strength, it's still financially fucked.
TNA in ring is fine, absolutely fine. It's the people in charge that is the problem. WWE's ok, it doesn't excite me (then again I'm 24, wrestling shouldn't excite me at that age) but it's fine as in I can keep watching still. Plus there is my darling Miz.
TNA in ring is fine, absolutely fine. It's the people in charge that is the problem. WWE's ok, it doesn't excite me (then again I'm 24, wrestling shouldn't excite me at that age) but it's fine as in I can keep watching still. Plus there is my darling Miz.
Springsteen
Number 2, Rafael!
According to F4W Booker T and Kevin Nash are expected to be at the Rumble. Booker is pretty likely as he cancelled an autograph session this weekend while Nash is less so, but is a posssibility.
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