"she was asking for it"

[MainerMikeBrown]

It's not the fault of the victim that a perpetrator makes the choice (that's right, the choice) to rape them.

 

[Jezzebelle]

Update..look at the picture..it is a guy
On guys the 3rd finger is longer than the index finger
Go look at the picture then hit the little plus sign so you can see it

my third finger is longer than my index finger and I'm def. a girl.

 

[Jezzebelle]

I doubted many of the stats...but the one listed clearly sticks out.
Now why would a female child that was raped be 7 times more likely to be raped when she was an adult

All the stats are highly suspects now IMO...just something that someone assembled..although the source seems legit..the stats are just to crazy to be of any value.
.

It is true (I don't know if that exact stat is correct, but the idea in general) that women who are sexually abused as children are more likely to be sexually assaulted as adults... especially if they never received any treatment for the abuse as a child.

The common theory behind is that being abused as a child can cause you to blur the lines of love and violence. People that have been sexually abused may also believe that their sexuality is all that they have to offer, because their own self image is damaged from earlier abuse.

There are multiple scholarly articles on the issue of this and repeat rape victims.

 

[skyblue]

Sexual assault…it’s not about lust and desire, it’s a violent crime of POWER, CONTROL and DOMINANCE

• Every 45 seconds someone in the United States is sexually assaulted (1).
• 1 out of every 7 women currently in college has been raped (2), however, 9 out of 10 women raped on campus never tell anyone about the rape (3).
• 1 in 10 men is raped in his lifetime (4), 1 in 7 of those victims will have been assaulted before the age of 18.
• More than 61.5% of rapes are never reported to law enforcement (5).
• Approximately 28% of rape victims are raped by their husbands, 35% by an acquaintance, and 17% by a relative other than spouse (6).
• 74% of sexual assaults are perpetrated by assailants well known to the victim (7).
• A female child victim is 7 times more likely to be re-victimized as an adult (8).
• Nearly 6 out of 10 sexual assaults occur at the victim’s home or the home of a friend, relative, or neighbor (9).
• 1 in 15 rape victims contract a sexually transmitted disease (STD) as a result of being raped (10).
• 1 in 15 rape victims become pregnant as a result of being raped (11).
• The United States has the world’s highest rape rate of all countries that publish such data- 13 times higher than England and more than 20 times higher than Japan (12).
• An American woman is 10 times more likely to be raped than to die in a car crash (13).
• 61% of rape victims are females under the age of 18 (14).
• Contrary to common belief that violent crime rates are notably lower in rural areas, a recent analysis of location data collected for the 1999 National Women’s Study found that10.1% of women living in rural areas had experienced a completed rape as compared to 13.6% of women living in urban and suburban communities—hardly a notably lower rate.

http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/sexualassault/rapestatistics.htm

those are shocking statistics,i thought figures might be high but not that high

These statistics show some scary picture about the US, and other powerful countries, however you also have to take into account how in these countries female have more rights and are more likely to report rape. The lack of reports, information and statistics doesn't mean those countries are safer.

Look at this statistic - Pakistan is the last on the list... amount of rape reported=0... seems legit...
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes

zero rate in pakistan,i call B/S on that

 

[All Else Failed]

the whole finger length thing only means that there was a certain level of testosterone or estrogen in the mother at the time of birth

 

[The Man]

It is true (I don't know if that exact stat is correct, but the idea in general) that women who are sexually abused as children are more likely to be sexually assaulted as adults... especially if they never received any treatment for the abuse as a child.

The common theory behind is that being abused as a child can cause you to blur the lines of love and violence. People that have been sexually abused may also believe that their sexuality is all that they have to offer, because their own self image is damaged from earlier abuse.

There are multiple scholarly articles on the issue of this and repeat rape victims.

How would that make someone sexually assaulted as a child 7 times more likely to be sexually assaulted as an adult.

I say BS.

 

[The Man]

those are shocking statistics,i thought figures might be high but not that high



zero rate in pakistan,i call B/S on that

Well if you get raped in PK its not rape unless there are 4 males to say you were raped {that Islam shit at work for you}....doesnt matter..as you be will killed for being a whore after you were raped....Some logic they have in PK

 

[MainerMikeBrown]

They don't put a rape victim in prison, but do they put the perpetrator in the slammer.

Why?

Because the perpetrator is the one that committed a terrible crime, not the victim!

 

[Minderella]

Yes, it's never EVER the victims fault--the raper is the one who committed a crime.

However, there is a lot of psychology that comes in to play--especially for the victim. Self-blame after being raped is an extremely difficult thing to deal with for some victims. Then you have people who think that maybe if you had dressed differently, or not put yourself in such and such a situation, or if you hadn't been alone, or that you let it happen, you didn't fight hard enough, etc. etc. etc.--and you hear that (even if they don't know your history or that you've been raped) it gets into your head and there is the potential that you will begin to think you are to blame.

 

[MainerMikeBrown]

It isn't the victims fault.

But try telling that to some people I know.

 

[porterjack]

It isn't the victims fault.

But try telling that to some people I know.

I dont know anyone you know

 

[Mercury]

Fortunately I have never personally met anyone who has said, "Look at the way she was dressed! She deserved it."

I've seen idiots post such things on the internet ... but that is typically because they feel "safe" behind a computer and are going for some kind of shock factor which is just asinine and sophomoric at best.

Those who really believe such a statement ... probably isn't "all there" ...

 

[The Man]

It isn't the victims fault.

But try telling that to some people I know.

Rough neighborhood?

 

[Josh]

The slutty outfit is her fault, the broken mind is his. That's just.

 

[MainerMikeBrown]

The idea that "she was asking for it" is the voice of the victimizer. It's the rapists way of rationalizing that it wasn't his fault.

 

[Jezzebelle]

How would that make someone sexually assaulted as a child 7 times more likely to be sexually assaulted as an adult.

I say BS.

It's not BS... it's the same reason women are in repeat domestic violence relationships, the same reason that children who witness domestic violence are more likely to grow up and be in those relationships. If that's what you know and are taught as a child, then you become more likely to not see the red flags and get put in those situations.

 

[Abcinthia]

It's not BS... it's the same reason women are in repeat domestic violence relationships, the same reason that children who witness domestic violence are more likely to grow up and be in those relationships. If that's what you know and are taught as a child, then you become more likely to not see the red flags and get put in those situations.

Reminds me of this video we watched in Psychology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5wsbhRMGoo

And this is a good link (from the British Journal of Psychiatry, published in 2001) for the Cycle of child sexual abuse: links between being a victim and becoming a perpetrator: http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/179/6/482.full

Background There is widespread belief in a ‘cycle’ of child sexual abuse, but little empirical evidence for this belief.
Aims To identify perpetrators of such abuse who had been victims of paedophilia and/or incest, in order to: ascertain whether subjects who had been victims become perpetrators of such abuse; compare characteristics of those who had and had not been victims; and review psychodynamic ideas thought to underlie the behaviour of perpetrators.
Method Retrospective clinical case note review of 843 subjects attending a specialist forensic psychotherapy centre.
Results Among 747 males the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood.
Conclusions The data support the notion of a victim-to-victimiser cycle in a minority of male perpetrators but not among the female victims studied. Sexual abuse by a female in childhood may be a risk factor for a cycle of abuse in males.

If you read the study, it goes into more detail. I just quoted the abstract.

 

[skyblue]

people dress to whats allowed in their culture,in the west women often show a bit of leg,and that does look good....but in other parts of the world showing an ankle is considered promiscuous...neither should be a victim,i love seeing a good looking woman in a short skirt in the summer but i'd never act on it..its never a victims fault

 

[Mercury]

Reminds me of this video we watched in Psychology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5wsbhRMGoo

And this is a good link (from the British Journal of Psychiatry, published in 2001) for the Cycle of child sexual abuse: links between being a victim and becoming a perpetrator: http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/179/6/482.full



If you read the study, it goes into more detail. I just quoted the abstract.

Ughhh .... I remember this video. It is so true and makes my stomach upset every time I see it.

 

[36gamer]

It's never the woman's fault. Rapists generally rape out of violence, and want to show their dominance to cover up the insecurities. It's not usually because they have a lack of self-control after seeing some nice cleavage on a girl "sluttishly" dressed. It's not an impulsive "Ooh she's dressed like a slut, gonna get some o' dat ass" type thing. It's more of a pre-meditated stalking type thing.

And even if dressing like a slut DID make you more of an easy target, it STILL wouldn't make it the woman's fault. So we should expect women to dress while calculating how to be less "rape-attracting". No, why the hell should a woman conform the way she dresses to not attract rape. Carry pepper spray or some shit; there is no need to change the way you dress. It's never the woman's fault. It's the fucked up human being known as the rapist's fault.