"she was asking for it"

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The Man

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IMO the govt should provide a clinic with willing women to have sex...might cut down on rape...and some ugly people could get laid as well
 

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I honestly don't know why I still read this thread. It's like throwing peas at a wall... or beating a dead horse. Obviously people have made up their minds and no matter how many times you try talking sense to them they just ignore you and parrot the ol' thing again and again. Only one things comes to mind now:

"Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with his experience"

.... *sigh* ....
 

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The mind of rapist doesn't function the same way that [you] or mine, does. So you can't apply the same logic to this scenario as you would to every day situations.
: Her fault is being slutty, his fault is being insane. Why is so hard for most women to accept?
 

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The mind of rapist doesn't function the same way that [you] or mine, does. So you can't apply the same logic to this scenario as you would to every day situations.
: Her fault is being slutty, his fault is being insane. Why is so hard for most women to accept?

If you want people to accept your arguments, make better ones. Like it or not, arguments need to be thoughtfully constructed or they're horse shit.

You present as if all rape victims are slutty, and all rapists are insane as a trait and not simply a state.
People brush you off and gave you that shiny red rep bar because of assertions like that. If you actually hold a more moderate position, say so.

A rapist can be a sane person, who functions normally and reaches a breaking point/is triggered to act abnormally. So no, the rapist mind is not always some different place we non-rapists can't relate to.

A rape victim can be a medical stocking wearing, dressing gown and night cap clad 90 year old woman sitting in her home. So no, rape is not always the fault of the slutty.

I get the impression your only intention is to flame women on OTz for potential reasons I'll keep to myself, not actually present a useful argument, but I won't jump to that conclusion without getting more information.
 

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If you want people to accept your arguments, make better ones. Like it or not, arguments need to be thoughtfully constructed or they're horse shit.

You present as if all rape victims are slutty, and all rapists are insane as a trait and not simply a state.
People brush you off and gave you that shiny red rep bar because of assertions like that. If you actually hold a more moderate position, say so.

A rapist can be a sane person, who functions normally and reaches a breaking point/is triggered to act abnormally. So no, the rapist mind is not always some different place we non-rapists can't relate to.

A rape victim can be a medical stocking wearing, dressing gown and night cap clad 90 year old woman sitting in her home. So no, rape is not always the fault of the slutty.

I get the impression your only intention is to flame women on OTz for potential reasons I'll keep to myself, not actually present a useful argument, but I won't jump to that conclusion without getting more information.
that is deserving of rep
 

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I'm no psychologist but from what I understand rape is more about controlling someone than the sex. I could be wrong but I am going from my own opinion here. Personally, if I think a woman isn't interested in having sex with me then I'm not that interested. I don't know maybe I'm different.
 

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If you want people to accept your arguments, make better ones. Like it or not, arguments need to be thoughtfully constructed or they're horse shit.
Common sense usually needs no explanation, though.

You present as if all rape victims are slutty, and all rapists are insane as a trait and not simply a state.
No, I addressed the slutty ones, and that's all. If you want to put words in my mouth; makes you feel better, then go ahead. I won't fault you for it.
People brush you off and gave you that shiny red rep bar because of assertions like that. If you actually hold a more moderate position, say so.
You mean a misunderstanding on their part? Okay, I can see this.

A rapist can be a sane person, who functions normally and reaches a breaking point/is triggered to act abnormally.
No, they can't. You're making an excuse for the rapist, now.
So no, the rapist mind is not always some different place we non-rapists can't relate to.
Moot

A rape victim can be a medical stocking wearing, dressing gown and night cap clad 90 year old woman sitting in her home. So no, rape is not always the fault of the slutty.
I never said it was.

I get the impression your only intention is to flame women on OTz for potential reasons I'll keep to myself, not actually present a useful argument, but I won't jump to that conclusion without getting more information.
Then why bring it up at all? My intention isn't to flame anyone, so whatever information you're looking for, all you need do is ask.
 

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Sure there is. 'Normal' people can do anything under certain conditions. That's why there's such a thing as state versus trait.
 

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Trauma, extreme duress, and substances, for instance, can cause people to commit homicide, suicide, all sorts of things...just look at soldiers and the troubles some face. It's not out of the realm of possibility that a sane person would experience a condition that led to rape.

I think brushing all rapists off as insane and unlike normal people, makes just as much an excuse for reprehensible behavior as asserting rape is the fault of slutty women.

I would never dream of calling a rape victim a slut; whether directly or indirectly, because I'm not a piece of shit excuse for a human being.
 

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I don't see how anyone ever "asks" for rape.

There's a reason it's called "rape". It was something that happened without the consent of the victim.

You can't "ask" for rape. If that were possible, the rape wouldn't be rape, it would be a sexual relationship where both parties consent.

The fact that women, even scantily-dressed women, do not consent to a rapist raping them makes it rape. They didn't ask for anything. It's as simple as that.

No woman ever dresses scantily for the purpose of being raped. They might do it to catch attention, sure. But it's not in their mind to do it for the purpose of rape.

Therefore any form of rape is completely uninvited. To say any type of rape is ever justified is to just do away with mankind's moral system completely.
 
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