Science Saved My Soul.....................

[Niamh]

I think that we were talking about love and the faith we have in IT. You never said anything about God.

your original post....You will never know for sure what someone elses emotions are and I doubt anyone would dispute that, what you work off is how they treat you, what they do for you etc. Comparing having faith in someone elses emotions and having faith in someone that you've never seen and no one else in the world has seen, existing are two very different things.

Yes, but I was explaining why, imo, having faith in the love say, your husband has for you, is different to having faith in love that you think God has for you. Firstly, you have to have faith in the fact that God exists because (as i was trying to say before, nobody has ever even seen him/her/it) and then you have to have faith in the fact that he loves you as well. That's why i think the two are different.

 

[CityGirl]

Back when I was a fundamentalist Christian I always wondered why man and ape were nearly identical in terms of genes. I mean if god created man to be above the beasts of the land, then why didn't he just make us unique? Every living thing on this earth is built on the exact same building blocks of life. Through gene mapping we can trace our roots back to the amoeba... Was god so limited that he couldn't make us unique, completely different than the beasts of the earth????

Back when I was a fundamentalist christian, I used to wonder where in the heck Cain found a wife....I guess his wife was a neanderthal.......Based on the info we are discussing, I guess that idea has merit. A google search shows that many others have drawn same conclusion. Interesting.

 

[Niamh]

Back when I was a fundamentalist christian, I used to wonder where in the heck Cain found a wife....I guess his wife was a neanderthal.......Based on the info we are discussing, I guess that idea has merit. A google search shows that many others have drawn same conclusion. Interesting.

lol, I never even thought about that :24:

 

[sexysadie]

Yes, but I was explaining why, imo, having faith in the love say, your husband has for you, is different to having faith in love that you think God has for you. Firstly, you have to have faith in the fact that God exists because (as i was trying to say before, nobody has ever even seen him/her/it) and then you have to have faith in the fact that he loves you as well. That's why i think the two are different.

Again, we were speaking of LOVE and the faith we have in IT. To have faith in something, anything. You have faith in the love that somebody says they feel for you........yet you have no real proof that it exists and truth be told, you never will, all you can do is believe in it. And people show this kind of faith every single day of their lives. My faith in God's love is no different really,not when I'm telling you that I know Him. You don't believe what I'm saying because you don't know ME and you've never experienced God as I have.....but does that make Him not real when millions of people all over the world claim to love Him too?

 

[sexysadie]

Back when I was a fundamentalist christian, I used to wonder where in the heck Cain found a wife....I guess his wife was a neanderthal.......Based on the info we are discussing, I guess that idea has merit. A google search shows that many others have drawn same conclusion. Interesting.

Where did you learn about Cain, was it from readong the bible or are you just repeating something somebody else may have said? I'm curious.

 

[Niamh]

Again, we were speaking of LOVE and the faith we have in IT. To have faith in something, anything. You have faith in the love that somebody says they feel for you........yet you have no real proof that it exists and truth be told, you never will, all you can do is believe in it. And people show this kind of faith every single day of their lives. My faith in God's love is no different really,not when I'm telling you that I know Him. You don't believe what I'm saying because you don't know ME and you've never experienced God as I have.....but does that make Him not real when millions of people all over the world claim to love Him too?

I understand what you're saying but I'm simply trying to explain to you why I think having faith in an actual persons love is different from having faith in the love of a God. I don't think the two are at all comparable because you first have to have faith that they actually exist and then on top of that have faith in the fact that they love you too.

 

[CityGirl]

Sadie,
To one who has faith, no explaination is necessary, to one without faith, no explaination is possible.
St Thomas Aquinas

 

[sexysadie]

I understand what you're saying but I'm simply trying to explain to you why I think having faith in an actual persons love is different from having faith in the love of a God. I don't think the two are at all comparable because you first have to have faith that they actually exist and then on top of that have faith in the fact that they love you too.

We're not referring to the actual person or persons, we're referring to just the LOVE. How can LOVE be proven and if it can't does it actually exist?

 

[Niamh]

We're not referring to the actual person or persons, we're referring to just the LOVE. How can LOVE be proven and if it can't does it actually exist?

Well, love is only a word, a man made word so it means different things to different people, you're idea and mine could be completely different so, no it can't be proven imo

 

[Peter Parka]

Back when I was a fundamentalist christian, I used to wonder where in the heck Cain found a wife....I guess his wife was a neanderthal.......Based on the info we are discussing, I guess that idea has merit. A google search shows that many others have drawn same conclusion. Interesting.

Apparently he fucked his sister. The Bible has it all, Incest, eating shit, genocide - god says these are good. :thumbup

 

[Aries]

Sadie,
To one who has faith, no explaination is necessary, to one without faith, no explaination is possible.
St Thomas Aquinas

Exactly.

 

[sexysadie]

Sadie,
To one who has faith, no explaination is necessary, to one without faith, no explaination is possible.
St Thomas Aquinas

"And Jesus said unto them ... , "If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to younder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible to you."
Romans 1:17

 

[Tim]

Back when I was a fundamentalist christian, I used to wonder where in the heck Cain found a wife....I guess his wife was a neanderthal.......Based on the info we are discussing, I guess that idea has merit. A google search shows that many others have drawn same conclusion. Interesting.

The answer you will get is that Adam and Eve had many children, not just Cain and Able. I asked this very question long ago...

 

[sexysadie]

Apparently he fucked his sister. The Bible has it all, Incest, eating shit, genocide - god says these are good. :thumbup

No matter how you look at it, whether it be religious or scientific, we're all guilty of doing the same thing Peter.....but thanks for the same tired old quote....yawwwn!

 

[Niamh]

The answer you will get is that Adam and Eve had many children, not just Cain and Able. I asked this very question long ago...

so they got together with their sisters?

 

[Peter Parka]

"And Jesus said unto them ... , "If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to younder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible to you."
Romans 1:17

Go on then, move a mountain. Move Everest to the rockies. If you cant, according to your holy book, you have no faith. :24:

 

[sexysadie]

Well, love is only a word, a man made word so it means different things to different people, you're idea and mine could be completely different so, no it can't be proven imo

So then by your definition...........love doesn't exist.

 

[sexysadie]

Go on then, move a mountain. Move Everest to the rockies. If you cant, according to your holy book, you have no faith. :24:

Only in Dr.Suess is anything so literal Peter...lol...so keep reading.

 

[Peter Parka]

No matter how you look at it, whether it be religious or scientific, we're all guilty of doing the same thing Peter.....but thanks for the same tired old quote....yawwwn!

Speak for yourself, Ive never fucked my sister, eaten shit or commited genocide.

 

[Peter Parka]

Only in Dr.Suess is anything so literal Peter...lol...so keep reading.

Fail! According to your beliefs, you have no faith whatsover! :24::24::24::24: