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Minor Axis

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What does school funding have to do with the discussion?

Next you will use the same ruse about charity funding roads.

Nice attempt to distract though

You don't know that some conservatives don't believe in public education? It cost too much. They'd be much happier treating it as a voluntary charity just like they want to treat health care for those who can't afford it.
 

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You don't know that some conservatives don't believe in public education? It cost too much. They'd be much happier treating it as a voluntary charity just like they want to treat health care for those who can't afford it.

Where do you come up with this kind of nonsense?

I have never heard anybody want public education to be a voluntary charity.

Show me some credible sources where that is discussed.
 

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Where do you come up with this kind of nonsense?

I have never heard anybody want public education to be a voluntary charity.

Show me some credible sources where that is discussed.

Google it. Only nonsense in a deniers world. ;) There are lots of stories of conservatives/Republicans wanting to drastically reduce public school funding to a point where in many peoples' opinions, it will hurt us as a country.

GOP Tea Party Front Runner Wants to Abolish Public Schools.

Family donates 16.2 Million to School System

Zuckerberg gives 100 million to Newark School System

Don't kid yourself, this is how some conservatives want public school funding to happen, by charity, not by our taxed, hard earned profits.

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On a seperate note:
Boehner Pressured By Conservatives to end Wind Production Tax Credit

Anyone more educated than I am know of a good reason why the representatives who want to get rid of wind subsidies insist on keeping oil subsidies?
 

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Google it. Only nonsense in a deniers world. ;) There are lots of stories of conservatives/Republicans wanting to drastically reduce public school funding to a point where in many peoples' opinions, it will hurt us as a country.

GOP Tea Party Front Runner Wants to Abolish Public Schools.
A Tea Party-backed Republican congressional nominee has championed abolishing public schools in California, and is currently the favorite to win his November election.

The candidate, David Harmer, a corporate lawyer who has yet to serve in public office, is up against two-term Democratic incumbent Jerry McNerney for California’s 11th district — located in Northern California — in the House of Representatives.


Harmer made the argument to kill public schools in a 2000 op-ed for the San Francisco Chronicle, which was dug up Thursday by Nick Baumann of Mother Jones.




Framing the issue as a struggle between government tyranny and freedom — a preferred political tactic of conservatives — Harmer wrote: “In the freest and most prosperous country on Earth, in the midst of the information age, government ownership and operation of the schools is a counterproductive anachronism.”


He added: “So long as the state Constitution mandates free public schools, a voucher system (or refundable tuition tax credit) is the best we can do. To attain quantum leaps in educational quality and opportunity, however, we need to separate school and state entirely. Government should exit the business of running and funding schools.”


The GOP candidate argued in the Chronicle that his vision for education reflects “the way things worked through the first century of American nationhood.” As Baumann notes, that was an era “when educational opportunities for poor people, African-Americans, women, the disabled, and others were, to say the least, extremely limited.”


Although Harmer holds a slim lead in the polls — 49.4 to 48.4 percent — polling expert Nate Silver of the New York Times analyzes the dynamics of the race and gives the Tea Party favorite a considerable 54.7 to 45.3 percent chance of victory next month.


Yet Harmer’s views on education, largely ignored so far, could hurt him in a state where the public school and college system is so treasured that even Republican gubernatorial nominee Meg Whitman — bucking her party’s trend of defiance to publicly-funded education — has pledged to strengthen California’s public schools.

Family donates 16.2 Million to School System
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A wealthy businessman and his wife have made a 4-year, $16.2 million donation to the struggling Philadelphia school system and other educational institutions in the region.Mayor Michael Nutter announced the donation by John and Leigh Middleton on Tuesday. He says the money will go toward educational needs, workforce training and professional development programming.
The money will be distributed through the United Way of Greater Philadelphia and Southern New Jersey to the city's school district, Philadelphia Academies Inc., Philadelphia YouthNetwork and Drexel University.
John Middleton, 1 of the owners of the Philadelphia Phillies, says he believes the district is at a "tipping point" and needs an infusion of resources.
The mayor's wife, Lisa, is president of Philadelphia Academies, which does career-focused programming for young people.

Zuckerberg gives 100 million to Newark School System
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A wealthy businessman and his wife have made a 4-year, $16.2 million donation to the struggling Philadelphia school system and other educational institutions in the region.Mayor Michael Nutter announced the donation by John and Leigh Middleton on Tuesday. He says the money will go toward educational needs, workforce training and professional development programming.
The money will be distributed through the United Way of Greater Philadelphia and Southern New Jersey to the city's school district, Philadelphia Academies Inc., Philadelphia YouthNetwork and Drexel University.
John Middleton, 1 of the owners of the Philadelphia Phillies, says he believes the district is at a "tipping point" and needs an infusion of resources.
The mayor's wife, Lisa, is president of Philadelphia Academies, which does career-focused programming for young people.

Don't kid yourself, this is how some conservatives want public school funding to happen, by charity, not by our taxed, hard earned profits.

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0 for 3. Good job. Only one even mentioned stopping gov't-run schools, and none mentioned charities at all.
But keep spinning, by all means. 2h5jhfk.jpg
 

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0 for 3. Good job. Only one even mentioned stopping gov't-run schools, and none mentioned charities at all.
But keep spinning, by all means.

Dude, your going to have to explain 0-3 and keep a straight face while your doing it. Lol. You trying to nitpick the difference between a donation and charity? As usual the point flies right over your head. Lol.
 
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0 for 3. Good job. Only one even mentioned stopping gov't-run schools, and none mentioned charities at all.
But keep spinning, by all means.

Dude, your going to have to explain 0-3 and keep a straight face while your doing it. Lol. You trying to nitpick the difference between a donation and charity? As usual the point flies right over your head. Lol.
OMG!! You mean you are seriously criticizing rich people for giving more money to a government program than the tax code requires them to give?? And this after all the railing you do that they don't pay enough in taxes?? What a fucking hypocrite ... or idiot. Your call.
 

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OMG!! You mean you are seriously criticizing rich people for giving more money to a government program than the tax code requires them to give?? And this after all the railing you do that they don't pay enough in taxes?? What a fucking hypocrite ... or idiot. Your call.

Your intentional, flagrantly misleading generalization, me criticizing people who donate money is the best you can do? Lol. Talk about spin... Maybe you should become Rush's apprentice. ;) You are so far off the mark, it's not worth me repeating it or pursuing this with you.
 

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Your intentional, flagrantly misleading generalization, me criticizing people who donate money is the best you can do? Lol. Talk about spin... Maybe you should become Rush's apprentice. ;) You are so far off the mark, it's not worth me repeating it or pursuing this with you.
Translation: I hit the bull's eye. :D
 

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I'm watching Gov Christy try to package & sell Romney. The guy on Meet the Press pressed him for specifics, and I swear he stole & edited Nancy Pelosi's line: You'll have to elect him to see what's in 'im. :24:

Not a direct quote, of course, but that was the message.
 

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I'm watching Gov Christy try to package & sell Romney. The guy on Meet the Press pressed him for specifics, and I swear he stole & edited Nancy Pelosi's line: You'll have to elect him to see what's in 'im. :24:

Not a direct quote, of course, but that was the message.

I know and it's been mentioned by several pundits that if Romney or anyone was to run on a campaign of "pain, but I'll fix it" they most likely would not get elected. But some fish oil must be drunk...
 

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any time you say "just elect him and you'll see"....sounds fishy to me...I need details about why they would be good for that job!
 

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any time you say "just elect him and you'll see"....sounds fishy to me...I need details about why they would be good for that job!

That is essentially is how Obama was elected.
Elect Obama for "change"
We have gotten a taste of this change...enough to make many vomit
Let us pray on election day America has learned that this Obama guy is no good.
 

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That is essentially is how Obama was elected.
Elect Obama for "change"
We have gotten a taste of this change...enough to make many vomit
Let us pray on election day America has learned that this Obama guy is no good.


based on state by state polls....I wouldnt hold your breath.... :tooth
 

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based on state by state polls....I wouldnt hold your breath.... :tooth
Shame isnt it...we have a nations with many idiots.
Their ignorance while possibly excusable the first time around ...Will be pure idiocy the second time around in the event they vote for him.

I will sever all ties with anyone who votes for him this time around
 

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Shame isnt it...we have a nations with many idiots.
Their ignorance while possibly excusable the first time around ...Will be pure idiocy the second time around in the event they vote for him.

Wow, I remember saying this same thing 8 years ago, when we had the Bush Re-election debacle....couldn't believe people would be so stupid a second time.....
 

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That is essentially is how Obama was elected.
Elect Obama for "change"
We have gotten a taste of this change...enough to make many vomit
Let us pray on election day America has learned that this Obama guy is no good.
That's okay, the repubs are the ones with the 'change' mantra this time so you can vote for them ... then change back to dems .... then change back to repubs ....

Kinda puts a fine point on 'the more things change the more they remain the same' dunnit?
 

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That's okay, the repubs are the ones with the 'change' mantra this time so you can vote for them ... then change back to dems .... then change back to repubs ....

Kinda puts a fine point on 'the more things change the more they remain the same' dunnit?

Whenever a 3rd party candidate gains enough traction, something will happen. It has happened on the State level and all most happened once I can remember on the National level.
 

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That is essentially is how Obama was elected.
Elect Obama for "change"
We have gotten a taste of this change...enough to make many vomit
Let us pray on election day America has learned that this Obama guy is no good.

Seriously? Oh that's right, you are the one with limited bandwidth....

If you had ANY interest at all before the last election you could have poured through the page after page of where then Senator Obama stood and where he wanted to take the country. To even suggest that he didn't have a plan or that he wasn't willing to share the details is ignorant.

If you wanted the information all you had to do was listen to him talk and if you wanted the details all you needed to do is go to his campaign site, it was all there.
Hell, even McCain had one hell of a site with many details. I respected him for putting it out there.
 
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