Patriots In Exile Club

[Peter Parka]

Re: The Conservatives In Exile Club

And what does some drunk ignorant hick who shoots someone accidentally have to do with the people here who can handle the responsibility of a firearm?

Quite a lot if they voted for people like him to easily get hold of a gun.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

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Quite a lot if they voted for people like him to easily get hold of a gun.

It's not that cut and dry....I didn't vote for McCain to protect just gun ownership....It's a matter of how they approach gun ownership.

Technically the government, wether anyone likes it or not, has no real right to infringe on gun ownership of any kind. If you are a law abiding citizen, you should have the right to own one....Period

There isn't another interpretation to it. The liberals fear that that article in the Constitution was intended to mean that we had the right to take up arms against any tyranical government....up to and including our very own

I won't vote for a singel person that wants to take that right away, it's how this country was founded.

 

[Peter Parka]

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It's not that cut and dry....I didn't vote for McCain to protect just gun ownership....It's a matter of how they approach gun ownership.

Technically the government, wether anyone likes it or not, has no real right to infringe on gun ownership of any kind. If you are a law abiding citizen, you should have the right to own one....Period

There isn't another interpretation to it. The liberals fear that that article in the Constitution was intended to mean that we had the right to take up arms against any tyranical government....up to and including our very own

I won't vote for a singel person that wants to take that right away, it's how this country was founded.

If you believe in the contitution about guns, you must be quite pissed that your government is breaking it by not allowing 5 year olds to walk around with RPGs.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

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If you believe in the contitution about guns, you must be quite pissed that your government is breaking it by not allowing 5 year olds to walk around with RPGs.

I have no qualms with leaving the age where it is, there is nothing un-consittutional about it.

Your point is totally rediculous, I don't think your're going to find anyone who thinks a five year old with an RPG is okay.

That is the kind of hysterics I'm talking about

 

[Peter Parka]

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I have no qualms with leaving the age where it is, there is nothing un-consittutional about it.

Your point is totally rediculous, I don't think your're going to find anyone who thinks a five year old with an RPG is okay.

That is the kind of hysterics I'm talking about

I quote the second amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


No mention of age limits, no mention of limits on the power of the said arms. If Americans are going to keep bleating on about the outdated constitution, then they should stop breaking it.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

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I quote the second amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


No mention of age limits, no mention of limits on the power of the said arms. If Americans are going to keep bleating on about the outdated constitution, then they should stop breaking it.

Breaking it how? Not really sure why it's any concern of yours anyhow.....You don't live under it

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

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There is nothing un-consitutional about setting an age limit for gun ownership.....If it doesn't set an age, then that can be determined.

In my state, it's 18 for rifles and shotguns, and 21 for handguns. I have absolutely no qualms with that, it was passed by state supreme court, that's good enough for me

 

[Peter Parka]

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I'm not saying age limits are wrong. I'm saying that the constitution isnt the holy grail and is seriously outdated.
What business is it of mine? None really, I just happen to care about people all over the world and dont want to see any innocent person unnecessarily shot dead.:nod:

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

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I'm not saying age limits are wrong. I'm saying that the constitution isnt the holy grail and is seriously outdated.
What business is it of mine? None really, I just happen to care about people all over the world and dont want to see any innocent person unnecessarily shot dead.:nod:

It might be an old document, but it was essentially the set of principles our country was founded on, like them or not.

If you think that banning guns will stop crime, then you're sorely mistaken. I mean I guess we could always resort back to clubs

But simply put, I have every right to have the capacity to protect my property and my family, you would wouldn't you? The only difference is you would have to grab a toaster oven

But nobody here can deny that if someone threatened their loved ones, they would kill to protect them.

Ted Kennedys car killed more people than my gun has Don't act like Englan has progressed beyond crimes against people, weren't you falsely accused of murder? By your very own standards, murder shouldn't even be a crime that someone is arrested by in your country....Since you are all so gentile now

 

[Peter Parka]

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If you think that banning guns will stop crime, then you're sorely mistaken.

I'm sorry but if you cant see how far off your gun deaths my country is in the statistics which I have already posted here, you are either a - seriosly delouded or b- saying that Americans are steereotypically homicidal maniacs.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

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If you think that banning guns will stop crime, then you're sorely mistaken.

I'm sorry but if you cant see how far off your gun deaths my country is in the statistics which I have already posted here, you are either a - seriosly delouded or b- saying that Americans are steereotypically homicidal maniacs.

Curious.....How many of those crimes are committed by people with no prior record of violence against innocent people?

I think if you look for results that are accurate, rather than just support your own hysterical thinking, you'll find that the vast majority of people that are murdered are either

A: Violent offenders, or living a violent lifestyle.

B: Preyed on by offenders that would beat you with a brick if they needed to.

You like most have a tendency to act as if anyone that owns a gun, wants to commit a violent act.

Frankly, thousands of lives are lost every year, to provide drug users with thier fix, I have no part of that.

Armed robberies....I've never done that either.

Guns, knives used to commit rape.....Never done that

Drive-by shootings....Nope never done that either

So I'm either a responsible gun owner....Or I'm delusional

 

[Peter Parka]

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Not questioning you being a responsible gun owner but its far easier to kill someone by pulling a trigger than it is to knife them to death, burn them to death, throw them out of a window ect ect.
If you want to shoot guns innocently I can only conclude that you either like to shoot targets or hunt for animals. Shooting targets - whats wrong with those guns being kept securely at a gun club for you? Shooting animals for food or fur, why would you need hand guns or AK47s ect?

 

[Alien Allen]

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If you look at some of the countries that had mass genocide you will find they banned guns I believe.

 

[Peter Parka]

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If you look at some of the countries that had mass genocide you will find they banned guns I believe.

Yes, in third world countries with shit law and order and dictatorships which seriously piss the majority of the population off big time. Dont tell me you seriously believe there will be a mass genocide in the USA if gun laws are tightened up??? News flash for you, it hasn't happened here and is extrenmely unlikely to. 6 years ago we had the biggest protest against our government for years. Guess what? Nooooo genocide.
Seriously, pull your head out of the ground, no armageddon yet!

 

[Accountable]

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It's not that cut and dry....I didn't vote for McCain to protect just gun ownership....It's a matter of how they approach gun ownership.

Technically the government, wether anyone likes it or not, has no real right to infringe on gun ownership of any kind. If you are a law abiding citizen, you should have the right to own one....Period

There isn't another interpretation to it. The liberals fear that that article in the Constitution was intended to mean that we had the right to take up arms against any tyranical government....up to and including our very own

I won't vote for a singel person that wants to take that right away, it's how this country was founded.

That's exactly what it IS there for ... at least that's one very good and strong reason.

 

[SgtSpike]

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Not questioning you being a responsible gun owner but its far easier to kill someone by pulling a trigger than it is to knife them to death, burn them to death, throw them out of a window ect ect.
If you want to shoot guns innocently I can only conclude that you either like to shoot targets or hunt for animals. Shooting targets - whats wrong with those guns being kept securely at a gun club for you? Shooting animals for food or fur, why would you need hand guns or AK47s ect?

For target shooting, I go out to a remote place in the country. I can't stand just shooting on the range - it's boring.

And handguns and AK47's are just plain fun, you can't argue with that.

Besides, you forgot a third category - protection. I'm thinking about getting a handgun for personal protection and maybe even a concealed license as well.

 

[Alien Allen]

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Yes, in third world countries with shit law and order and dictatorships which seriously piss the majority of the population off big time. Dont tell me you seriously believe there will be a mass genocide in the USA if gun laws are tightened up??? News flash for you, it hasn't happened here and is extrenmely unlikely to. 6 years ago we had the biggest protest against our government for years. Guess what? Nooooo genocide.
Seriously, pull your head out of the ground, no armageddon yet!

So was Germany a shit law third world country back 70 years ago?

Our country as stated earlier was born as a result of iron first rule by the British. The founders felt that having a disarmed country leaves more room for a tyranically govt. to morph into.

Who knows what knucklehead laws will pass down the road. I never would have though smoking in public would be. Do you not agree that a disarmed populace is powerless??

 

[Minor Axis]

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And last I checked, fully automatic weapons were illegal, so what's your point by #26? Just further enforcing the gun control we already have in place? Because I completely agree with you there...

I guess I was just making a point that there is a good reason for gun control if it is effective.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

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Attention Ryder....Read a little in this thread....You'll get the idea

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

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So here we are....On the dawn of a new era....Change......The inaugaration of Chariman B.O.B.

Here's something that struck me as interesting:

This "party" will cost the average taxpayer(s) 170 million...With an M

There is expected to be in the order of 2-3 million in the city today, and it has been said that people are chartering private jets to fly in.....So I'm wondering...Just what size is the carbon footprint of this party going to be?

Bri? suggestions?