New Jersey to Ban Death Penalty

[Peter Parka]

I think Jesus was definately black, he called everyone brother and couldn't get a fair trial!

 

[GraceAbounds]

how can you be a christian and agree with capital punishment?

Not being sarcastic at all here, but very easily. Capital punishment should not be about revenge for revenge is the Lord's. Capital punishment is suppose to be about law, protection, and justice. (which are all key characteristics of the Lord)

Because this world is full of sin there will always be people out there that are not sorry and will kill again if given the chance unfortunately.

Eternal revenge is the Lord's and not ours. Understandingly so, organization, law, and order are also a part of His character and are not to be ignored.

Love, grace, and mercy are balanced with order, justice, and protection.

 

[All Else Failed]

I sort of laugh every time I see an Aryan looking Christ in a picture.

 

[debbie t]

i suggest that if people need to be removed from society then put them on an island and fuck them off.
but thou shalt not kill and forgiveness is everything.you know forgive us our trespasses and those who trespass against us.

the very notion of killing another human being is about as unchristian as you can get.yes its hard to forgive the murdering paedophile,but lets face it christianity is not easy,its a tough call,and i know i fall short everyday of my life.

i have notions about kill the bastards and if my family were harmed id want to do it.but i feel guilty about these feelings as they are not what jesus taught ,i have to ask forgiveness for even thinking about them

unlike my atheist husband who would peel of their skin and then beat them to death

 

[GraceAbounds]

i suggest that if people need to be removed from society then put them on an island and fuck them off.
but thou shalt not kill and forgiveness is everything.you know forgive us our trespasses and those who trespass against us.

I believe in thou shall not murder which is what the original languages the Bible was written in equate to.

I do not believe that capital punishment or when our soldiers are fighting to protect our freedom kills someone equates to murder. Jesus also told us to take with us something to protect ourselves.

the very notion of killing another human being is about as unchristian as you can get.

Defending and protecting oneself is not unchristian.

christianity is not easy,its a tough call,and i know i fall short everyday of my life.

We all do.

i have notions about kill the bastards and if my family were harmed id want to do it.

I will protect my family as God provides protection for me.

but i feel guilty about these feelings

I will not feel guilty for the price has been paid. God knows my heart as no man does. Same for you.

i have to ask forgiveness for even thinking about them

I have to ask forgiveness everyday. We all do.

unlike my atheist husband who would peel of their skin and then beat them to death

I have no thoughts of vengeance or revenge, just a mindset of protection over the ones that God has entrusted me with and holds me accountable for.

 

[boxer810]

If you wanna look at it from the Christian perspective, the Bible says Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth, etc....

 

[dt3]

Soldiers going out to kill people is murder, just like terrorists going out to kill soldiers is murder.

You've said this bullshit before. Who are you to compare our troops to terrorists? You've got no fucking right to do that. What the fuck is your problem? You swear you have military people in your family. With ignorant comments like this, I don't believe you. I'm not a fucking murderer. But if you said this bullshit to my face I would be.

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” John Stuart Mill

 

[UncleBacon]

Trust me, I personally know many correctional officers through my family, I AGREE that you guys are in a tough situation, and I can sympathize for that with you. The thing I just think, is that the prison system in America is shit. It needs to be corrected so that inmates and officers don't have to worry about violence etc etc.

What do you think about people, that go out as a group, seeking to kill people? I.E. soldiers?

I mean really ???ou went there???are you going to fight for this country????stupid question the answer is obviously not...your going to try to talk and hug your way out of the fight with people that mor3e than likely don't give a fuck and will kill you anyway...it saddens me to know that people like you exist in this country

 

[boxer810]

Bacon, you and Donnie saved me the typing on that one.....



I cannot BELIEVE that you would speak of our troops as if you were comparing them to common criminals AEF....

But all the same, they fight and kill so that you CAN have an opinion on things....

 

[UncleBacon]

america gets attacked again who are you going to cry to for help???to make sure you stay safe at home so you can keep bashing the country and military???

 

[TheOriginalJames]

I think Jesus was definately black, he called everyone brother and couldn't get a fair trial!

bwhahahahaha!

 

[Maulds]

Not that simple.


The state should deal with criminals in a way that does not reflect their OWN crime. To do this is so hypocritical its mind boggling. We are no better than the murderer if we murder him back, don't you see that? he only difference between a murderer and a jury that sentences a murderer to be killed, is the number of people who do the premeditation.

I understand your argument, its like spanking a kid for hitting someone and telling them not to hit. I get it. But the post of yours I was replying to made it sound like prisons picked prisoners at random to hang death sentences on when you and I know that isn't the case.

And whats barbaric about lethal injection? I know in every case I've looked at its much more merciful than the death the killers gave their victims. Yet you cry out for the poor murderers?

 

[boxer810]

I understand your argument, its like spanking a kid for hitting someone and telling them not to hit. I get it. But the post of yours I was replying to made it sound like prisons picked prisoners at random to hang death sentences on when you and I know that isn't the case.

And whats barbaric about lethal injection? I know in every case I've looked at its much more merciful than the death the killers gave their victims. Yet you cry out for the poor murderers?

Exactly....I never said we should hang them by their toenails and slice them up a piece at a time (although, for some of them that is not a bad idea) but lets face it, some of them need to die for the things that they have done!

 

[GraceAbounds]

If you wanna look at it from the Christian perspective, the Bible says Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth, etc....

Jesus came and perfected this. He stressed that grace and mercy must be balanced with the law. We are not to be so stringent with ritual and with law that we forget about relationship and loving people. In other words we need to reach out to people, care about them, love them, teach them, etc. When they are in trouble we need to keep trying to help them. There is a point though that people are too unsafe to be in society and don't want to be helped. There are people that are nothing but evil.

 

[All Else Failed]

You've said this bullshit before. Who are you to compare our troops to terrorists? You've got no fucking right to do that. What the fuck is your problem? You swear you have military people in your family. With ignorant comments like this, I don't believe you. I'm not a fucking murderer. But if you said this bullshit to my face I would be.

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” John Stuart Mill

I didn't compare them to terrorists? I simply said that both parties go out with the intention to kill. I personally see that as legal murder that sometimes has to be done, in relative situations, of course.

I do have a military family, btw.


If you tried to take my life, I'm pretty confident that I would survive in defense.

 

[All Else Failed]

I mean really ???ou went there???are you going to fight for this country????stupid question the answer is obviously not...your going to try to talk and hug your way out of the fight with people that mor3e than likely don't give a fuck and will kill you anyway...it saddens me to know that people like you exist in this country

I would fight for things that mattered to me, of course, anyone would. But until that threat shows up, no, I would not fight for this country. I'm no pacifist.

 

[All Else Failed]

america gets attacked again who are you going to cry to for help???to make sure you stay safe at home so you can keep bashing the country and military???

I'm not saying the military is a bad thing. It is necessary. I'm just pointing out that war is almost a necessary evil at times, where its basically legalized murder. That doesn't mean I can't sympathize with people that were told to go and fight. Its not like they have a choice.

I understand your argument, its like spanking a kid for hitting someone and telling them not to hit. I get it. But the post of yours I was replying to made it sound like prisons picked prisoners at random to hang death sentences on when you and I know that isn't the case.

And whats barbaric about lethal injection? I know in every case I've looked at its much more merciful than the death the killers gave their victims. Yet you cry out for the poor murderers?

All state mandated murder is barbaric in the sense that I think its disgusting that we try to show our society that murder is wrong by murdering them back. Its ridiculous. The state and a small group of individuals should not have the power to decide who lives, and who dies.

 

[Maulds]

The state and a small group of individuals should not have the power to decide who lives, and who dies.

You still think the state makes the decision and not the offender who knew what the punishment would be? Again its not like they have a death lottery in prison, only murderers get executed.

 

[boxer810]

When one commits murder, or rape/sodomy, they know that there will ultimately be consequences for their actions. There are certain crimes that are mandated to be "Crimes against nature".....and any of those can be punishable by death in my opinion....there would be a lot less sick fucks in the world. As well as heartless, cruel, cold and calculated murderers, push them to the front of the line as well.

 

[All Else Failed]

You still think the state makes the decision and not the offender who knew what the punishment would be? Again its not like they have a death lottery in prison, only murderers get executed.

He makes the decision to kill, the state makes the decision to kill him back out of the MANY choices they could make, so yes, they make the decision, the criminal makes the stupid choice to take someone's life.