Martin/Zimmerman-----Poll

[Dana]

I know I clicked this thread but I feel compelled to just say I've read enough on this forum about conspiracies vs. facts. Some of the members in here, make me wonder.

 

[The Man]

The limit is 15 ..and all used

 

[The Man]

The latest for the conspiracy theorists

 

[itsmeJonB]

why arent you posting the link to the find that the person crying and pleading for his life is positively Martin on the 911 call, according to two separate Audio experts?

 

[The Man]

why arent you posting the link to the find that the person crying and pleading for his life is positively Martin on the 911 call, according to two separate Audio experts?

I think John has that posted in here or in another thread...however
I am skeptical of it being accurate due to all the other instances they have been being misleading us

 

[retro]

I think John has that posted in here or in another thread...however
I am skeptical of it being accurate due to all the other instances they have been being misleading us

Please tell me that I'm not the only one that sees irony in The "Man" being skeptical of a voiceprint analysis by and expert, yet he's quoting an "enhancement" of a still from a low quality video as gospel truth.

 

[itsmeJonB]

I see the irony.
Its just not worth arguing, his mind is clearly made up and he never had all the facts to begin with so fuck it

 

[retro]

I see the irony.
Its just not worth arguing, his mind is clearly made up and he never had all the facts to begin with so fuck it

Very true. It's funny, I haven't made a judgement on what happened... merely pointed out inconsistencies with Zimmerman's story. Yet the, as John calls them, Zimmerbots have blasted me and accused me of wanting to see him fry for this. It's quite amusing the lengths people will go to in order to feel better about their pathetic existences.

 

[itsmeJonB]

I'm the same as you. And with how lopsided the post was I was just tempted to play devils advocate, but where I stand is undecided until all the evidence is exposed

 

[The Man]

I see the irony.
Its just not worth arguing, his mind is clearly made up and he never had all the facts to begin with so fuck it

I just dont buy all the conspiracy theories.
Its simple..if the guy can be charged for shooting martin...then charge him.
If they cant then dont.
Some laws need to be changed to prevent similar from happening in the future

 

[The Man]

Very true. It's funny, I haven't made a judgement on what happened... merely pointed out inconsistencies with Zimmerman's story. Yet the, as John calls them, Zimmerbots have blasted me and accused me of wanting to see him fry for this. It's quite amusing the lengths people will go to in order to feel better about their pathetic existences.

Very true. It's funny, I haven't made a judgement on what happened.

You have not voted as such in the poll.

merely pointed out inconsistencies with Zimmerman's story

Like what?
His head being bloody?

Yet the, as John calls them, Zimmerbots have blasted me and accused me of wanting to see him fry for this.

Who are the Zimmerbots?

It's quite amusing the lengths people will go to in order to feel better about their pathetic existences

Indeed

 

[The Man]

Please tell me that I'm not the only one that sees irony in The "Man" being skeptical of a voiceprint analysis by and expert, yet he's quoting an "enhancement" of a still from a low quality video as gospel truth.

The other video was shitty....this one isnt...it doesnt create something that isnt there.....Sound familiar

Why all of a sudden do we have new software and voice analysis experts.
Not saying the screams are not Martins....but I doubt it....Just some more bullshit the theorists are throwing out there IMO.

 

[retro]

The other video was shitty....this one isnt...it doesnt create something that isnt there.....Sound familiar

Why all of a sudden do we have new software and voice analysis experts.
Not saying the screams are not Martins....but I doubt it....Just some more bullshit the theorists are throwing out there IMO.

A voiceprint is just like a fingerprint... Zimmerman's voice has been eliminated, so unless there was some other dude out there screaming for help, simple logic would dictate that it was Martin screaming. As far as teh video goes... it's the same video source as what ABC posted, it came from the same cameras... nice try though. Voice analysis experts aren't new, neither is their software. Seems like you're just as guilty as what you're accusing others of... seeing or hearing things that you want to see and/or hear, while completely ignoring the facts that are staring you in the face. God, the things you say make me wonder if you lack the IQ points that would put you into "normal" range. At the very least, simple logic and reasoning certainly aren't areas of strength for you.

 

[The Man]

A voiceprint is just like a fingerprint... Zimmerman's voice has been eliminated, so unless there was some other dude out there screaming for help, simple logic would dictate that it was Martin screaming. As far as teh video goes... it's the same video source as what ABC posted, it came from the same cameras... nice try though. Voice analysis experts aren't new, neither is their software. Seems like you're just as guilty as what you're accusing others of... seeing or hearing things that you want to see and/or hear, while completely ignoring the facts that are staring you in the face. God, the things you say make me wonder if you lack the IQ points that would put you into "normal" range. At the very least, simple logic and reasoning certainly aren't areas of strength for you.

A voiceprint is just like a fingerprint... Zimmerman's voice has been eliminated,

Thats what they say...We havent been shown the results..it also was not claimed to be 100 percent accurate.

As far as teh video goes... it's the same video source as what ABC posted, it came from the same cameras... nice try though

DUH

Voice analysis experts aren't new, neither is their software.

Good luck matching that up with someone whos voice we cant compare it to.

Seems like you're just as guilty as what you're accusing others of... seeing or hearing things that you want to see and/or hear, while completely ignoring the facts that are staring you in the face

The screaming belonging to Martin is not a fact.

God, the things you say make me wonder if you lack the IQ points that would put you into "normal" range. At the very least, simple logic and reasoning certainly aren't areas of strength for you

Way out of normal dweeb wanna be...I score 128

 

[itsmeJonB]

Implying there's no audio recording anywhere in the world of martin speaking.
You really do lack IQ points

 

[Tim]

Why do you guys insist on arguing with him? He listened to the same 911 calls as the rest of us yet he absolutely hears what he wants to hear. That should say all there is... He keeps going on about people who have their mind made up when it's him that can't see past his prejudice.

 

[The Man]

Implying there's no audio recording anywhere in the world of martin speaking.
You really do lack IQ points

I didnt claim one doesnt exist/ the people that did the analysis claim one doesn't exist..I find that very convenient.
Anyway I am not going to argue with you about it Wyndex..I like you...However Retro I could give less than a fuck about

 

[The Man]

Why do you guys insist on arguing with him? He listened to the same 911 calls as the rest of us yet he absolutely hears what he wants to hear. That should say all there is... He keeps going on about people who have their mind made up when it's him that can't see past his prejudice.

Excuse me...Are you staff again?

 

[retro]

Thats what they say...We havent been shown the results..it also was not claimed to be 100 percent accurate.

They're very close to being 100% accurate and have been used in court previously as far as I know.

DUH

Dude... you just said that this video was better quality than the other video, and now you're saying, "DUH" to it being the same video. Do you honestly pay attention to the things that you say?

Good luck matching that up with someone whos voice we cant compare it to.

The screaming belonging to Martin is not a fact.

If there were two people involved in the altercation, and Zimmerman's voice has been ruled out, logic dictates that the other voice belongs to Trayvon Martin. Unless your argument is that there was a third person yelling and screaming for help.

Way out of normal dweeb wanna be...I score 128

Wow... congratulations, you scored "borderline gifted". I'm not turning this into an intelligence pissing contest, and I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't respond to this (because it has nothing to do with the subject at hand)... but for the sake of comparison, I scored a 157 when I was tested in high school.

 

[retro]

Excuse me...Are you staff again?

What does his question have to do with whether or not he's a member of the staff? Your "way out of normal" intelligence is showing. :24: