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Its funny how you and I are onthe same side of this issue. The ardent conservatives seem to be eager to exonerate Zimmerman before all the facts come out... while blasting people that disagree with them because we don't know all of the facts. Logic fail? Absolutely. I don't know what happened... I just know that the story that Zimmerman told seems to have a lit of holes in it.
Joe the meek
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I'm not for exonerating Zimmerman BEFORE the facts come out.
However, Zimmerman was not arrested and charged at the time of the incident, SO, we will all have to wait to see what the investigation turns up. You can't just go back and arrest the guy due to popular demand.
They could go back and arrest him if it was determined that he was falsely released. While you mag not be calling for exoneration, you've had no problem accusing others of wanting to hang the guy, when that belief hasn't been voiced by many, if anyone, around here.
Your incredibly biased poll? Right. :24:
How is it biased?
Please tell me that isn't a serious question.
Joe the meek
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You don't read many newspapers, do you?
Zimmerman isn't going anywhere. It's only a matter of time before the investigation will present it's findings. I think we can all agree that no "favors" are going to be pulled for Zimmerman on this.
If it does go to trial, it will be interesting to see with what kind of jurors they're going to bring in.
Personally, I honestly don't believe race had anything to do with this after everything I've read. Matter of fact, if I lived in a neighborhood like the one Zimmerman lived in with the crime rate it has, I could see calling 911 myself in the same situation. That said, that's one of many reasons why I live right where I do.
You claim its biased but fail to show how.
I think Zimmerman shot Martin only because he was black
Implies a bias against Zimmerman
I think race had nothing to do with it.
A legitimate response, but doesn't actually ask what the poll is saying it's asking for, which is what happened.
Zimmerman was looking for the first black guy to shoot.
Implies a bias against Zimmerman
I will wait to have all my facts in before passing judgement on Zimmerman.
Legitimate response
I think Zimmerman may have been genuinly scared and shot the guy.
Doesn't ask what happened, just reasoning behind the death of Martin
I think Martin attacked Zimmerman.
Legitimate response
I dont think Martin attacked Zimmerman.
Legitimate response
Martin stalking Zimmerman is Ok
Martin stalking Zimmerman? That's assuming facts not in evidence. The only thing we have proof of is Zimmerman's admission that he was following Martin, not the other way around.
It is a crime for Zimmerman to see where stalker Martin ran to.
Implies a bias against Martin by labeling him a stalker when there's no proof of this.
The heck with a slow judicial system lets execute Zimmerman now
Implies a bias against Zimmerman and a disregard of the laws of the land.
I think Zimmerman had super human running skills and caught the young black man.
Dumb throwaway response, and introduces race into the equation where it is unnecessary.
While Zimmerman was looking for Martin Martin confronted Zimmerman.
Legitimate response, except that in other responses you have it listed that Martin was, "stalking" Zimmerman. Why isn't Zimmerman, "stalking" Martin the actual response here?
I find it odd that after Martin ran he didnt go "home" just a few units down.
The quotation marks around the word, "home" implies that Martin shouldn't have been in the neighborhood at all, because he didn't have a home there.
I find it odd that martin was following Zimmerman around in the rain.
Implies that Martin was following Zimmerman when we know that it was the other way around.
I am not scared of young black men follwing me around in the rain.
Dumb throwaway response, also assuming that Martin followed Zimmerman when we know it was the other way around.
Implies a bias against Zimmerman
I think race had nothing to do with it.
A legitimate response, but doesn't actually ask what the poll is saying it's asking for, which is what happened.
Zimmerman was looking for the first black guy to shoot.
Implies a bias against Zimmerman
I will wait to have all my facts in before passing judgement on Zimmerman.
Legitimate response
I think Zimmerman may have been genuinly scared and shot the guy.
Doesn't ask what happened, just reasoning behind the death of Martin
I think Martin attacked Zimmerman.
Legitimate response
I dont think Martin attacked Zimmerman.
Legitimate response
Martin stalking Zimmerman is Ok
Martin stalking Zimmerman? That's assuming facts not in evidence. The only thing we have proof of is Zimmerman's admission that he was following Martin, not the other way around.
It is a crime for Zimmerman to see where stalker Martin ran to.
Implies a bias against Martin by labeling him a stalker when there's no proof of this.
The heck with a slow judicial system lets execute Zimmerman now
Implies a bias against Zimmerman and a disregard of the laws of the land.
I think Zimmerman had super human running skills and caught the young black man.
Dumb throwaway response, and introduces race into the equation where it is unnecessary.
While Zimmerman was looking for Martin Martin confronted Zimmerman.
Legitimate response, except that in other responses you have it listed that Martin was, "stalking" Zimmerman. Why isn't Zimmerman, "stalking" Martin the actual response here?
I find it odd that after Martin ran he didnt go "home" just a few units down.
The quotation marks around the word, "home" implies that Martin shouldn't have been in the neighborhood at all, because he didn't have a home there.
I find it odd that martin was following Zimmerman around in the rain.
Implies that Martin was following Zimmerman when we know that it was the other way around.
I am not scared of young black men follwing me around in the rain.
Dumb throwaway response, also assuming that Martin followed Zimmerman when we know it was the other way around.
You apparently don't understand the meaning of the word, "if".
Isnt it your position that he should have not been released?
How has he been falsely released
I never stated that Zimmerman should or should not have been released. However, my opinion doesn't matter in this context. I merely pointed out that there were things that could have been done other than releasing him from police custody. Nice try putting words in my mouth though.
So we are automatically assuming guilt on Zimmerman?
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
I am shocked here by some of my fellow Americans
Zimmerman Conspiracy Theorists Anyone ?
Zimmerman Conspiracy Theorists.
Here is allegedly what happened
A young black boy was shot by a fat slob gun happy white man while the young boy was returning back from 7 11 to get some skittles the kid ran when he saw the fat slobs SUV..The slob caught him and shot him.
Everyone is in on it the police, the paramedics, the witnesses ,Oh and yes mastermind Zimmerman who convinced them all to go along with it.
To bust some of these theories it turns out the boy is a athletic young man at the age of 17..And the white slob is actually a mid weight Hispanic...age 28...I guess Zimmerman somehow forgot he wasnt a fat white slob....we dont know yet.
Turns out Zimmerman {the shooter} had called in to authorities as the young man was looking around at units in the gated community in the rain......not lay and wait to slay the first black kid as implied..Busted
The young man began to approach Zimmerman while he was parked and calling it in on his cell phone....thats right.
The young athlete ran and took off...thats right young athlete..not little boy
Zimmerman did not give chase...a little time had elapsed before he exited his vehicle....thats right.
He did not run...he was talking on the phone the entire time he was in contact with communications and never lost a breath...This would have give the young athlete a huge head start...had Zimmerman chased after him.
The theorists cant explain how this middle aged guy darted much later to catch the young athlete who was only a few units from where he was an alleged guest.
As far as I know the 6 million dollar man was just a character on TV and the technology actually never existed to be able to run 60mph
But yet this is what Zimmerman would have had to have been the equivalent of or more to catch the football star.
At some point the 2 meet......Now logic would tell us that the young athlete came to Zimmerman..Since the young athlete bolted off leaving the non athletic middle age guy in the dust....which means he would have turned around and came back...or wait for Zimmerman to appear
Zimmerman gets beat..there are witnesses to verify this..The young athlete gets shot.
The theorists claim everyone is lying from the police to the witnesses to the paramedics and so on.
Mind you..the police wanted to press charges but nothing was filed due to Florida laws...But yet the theorists claim a police cover up.WTH
When it is the DA that wont file.
A video is released after Zimmerman has been cleaned up...and the theorist claim no blood..there wasnt a fight LOL.
A huge ABC logo covers Zimmermans heads at all crucial times of a good view.
Theorists also claim that since Zimmermans dad is a retired judge from a few states away...a favor was turned in.
Now this would require alot of thought and planning in advance..with the paramedics..communications, the witnesses,the police officers.the DA all to be in on it..WTH....I guess it is possible..but I dont buy it.
Now there are 2 experts with new software that claim it was the boy{err young athlete} screaming....maybe it was hell who knows...perhaps he was screaming while he was beating Zimmermans ass lol....but they cant compare it to martins voice as he isnt around.
What other cover ups do you believe exist?
I personally dont believe there is a cover up....Keep trying.
We dont know what happened until all the facts come in...THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY PEOPLE
Zimmerman Conspiracy Theorists.
Here is allegedly what happened
A young black boy was shot by a fat slob gun happy white man while the young boy was returning back from 7 11 to get some skittles the kid ran when he saw the fat slobs SUV..The slob caught him and shot him.
Everyone is in on it the police, the paramedics, the witnesses ,Oh and yes mastermind Zimmerman who convinced them all to go along with it.
To bust some of these theories it turns out the boy is a athletic young man at the age of 17..And the white slob is actually a mid weight Hispanic...age 28...I guess Zimmerman somehow forgot he wasnt a fat white slob....we dont know yet.
Turns out Zimmerman {the shooter} had called in to authorities as the young man was looking around at units in the gated community in the rain......not lay and wait to slay the first black kid as implied..Busted
The young man began to approach Zimmerman while he was parked and calling it in on his cell phone....thats right.
The young athlete ran and took off...thats right young athlete..not little boy
Zimmerman did not give chase...a little time had elapsed before he exited his vehicle....thats right.
He did not run...he was talking on the phone the entire time he was in contact with communications and never lost a breath...This would have give the young athlete a huge head start...had Zimmerman chased after him.
The theorists cant explain how this middle aged guy darted much later to catch the young athlete who was only a few units from where he was an alleged guest.
As far as I know the 6 million dollar man was just a character on TV and the technology actually never existed to be able to run 60mph
But yet this is what Zimmerman would have had to have been the equivalent of or more to catch the football star.
At some point the 2 meet......Now logic would tell us that the young athlete came to Zimmerman..Since the young athlete bolted off leaving the non athletic middle age guy in the dust....which means he would have turned around and came back...or wait for Zimmerman to appear
Zimmerman gets beat..there are witnesses to verify this..The young athlete gets shot.
The theorists claim everyone is lying from the police to the witnesses to the paramedics and so on.
Mind you..the police wanted to press charges but nothing was filed due to Florida laws...But yet the theorists claim a police cover up.WTH
When it is the DA that wont file.
A video is released after Zimmerman has been cleaned up...and the theorist claim no blood..there wasnt a fight LOL.
A huge ABC logo covers Zimmermans heads at all crucial times of a good view.
Theorists also claim that since Zimmermans dad is a retired judge from a few states away...a favor was turned in.
Now this would require alot of thought and planning in advance..with the paramedics..communications, the witnesses,the police officers.the DA all to be in on it..WTH....I guess it is possible..but I dont buy it.
Now there are 2 experts with new software that claim it was the boy{err young athlete} screaming....maybe it was hell who knows...perhaps he was screaming while he was beating Zimmermans ass lol....but they cant compare it to martins voice as he isnt around.
What other cover ups do you believe exist?
I personally dont believe there is a cover up....Keep trying.
We dont know what happened until all the facts come in...THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY PEOPLE
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Where are the options
"Zimmerman should have stopped playing martial law and went back home like the dispatcher told him so the police can handle the suspicious looking Martin on their own"
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"killing an unarmed man is a crime and not a wave for self defense"
or
"finding trouble when you go looking for it doesn't give ANYBODY right to take someones life"
or
"carrying a gun is for pussy gangbangers and vigilantes and cops, neighborhood watch is neither of those"
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"Zimmerman should be charged with disobeying the dispatchers orders, with possible murder charges, and race is not the issue."
"Zimmerman should have stopped playing martial law and went back home like the dispatcher told him so the police can handle the suspicious looking Martin on their own"
or
"killing an unarmed man is a crime and not a wave for self defense"
or
"finding trouble when you go looking for it doesn't give ANYBODY right to take someones life"
or
"carrying a gun is for pussy gangbangers and vigilantes and cops, neighborhood watch is neither of those"
or
"Zimmerman should be charged with disobeying the dispatchers orders, with possible murder charges, and race is not the issue."
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