Martin/Zimmerman-----Poll

[retro]

Use your head tim..You havent been thinking lately before you post and it has been showing.

Oh the irony.

 

[The Man]

I've looked at the pic several times and haven't changed my opinion.

A statement was given by someone OTHER THAN Zimmerman? From someone that can describe Martin firmly holding Zimmerman's head and repeatedly forcing it into the ground?

Like I said...I've been falling behind on this in the news....

Martin has been placed on Zimmerman by others yes..but I dont think the statements include grabbing head though

 

[The Man]

Like I said, the bond was set at $150,000 and Zimmerman only needed to pay $15,000 (or 10%) which he will not get back.
Zimmerman had the option of paying the full $150,000 if he had it, then he wouldn't lose the $15,000 when he shows up for court. That $15,000 that was paid to a bondsman to guarantee that he shows and if he doesn't the full amount of $150,000 will be paid to the court by the bondsman...

So there was no reduction in bond to Zimmerman, none. He was required to come up with a $150,000 bond

Which is what I just said.
But you should note that the state asked for a million and the judge just went with 150k

 

[Aeval]

Martin has been placed on Zimmerman by others yes..but I dont think the statements include grabbing head though

OK...so I haven't missed anything, thanks.

 

[clancy]

Sure it does in a murder trial....Defendants in murder are a high flight risk and can make the state look rather bad if an accused murderer disappears.
No evidence equates to low flight risk which is why the bond is so low and only required 10 percent of that.
There is no case Tim

You are correct again. The bond hearing was huge for the defense. Investigator Dale Gilbreath testified that he does not know whether Martin or Zimmerman threw the first punch and that there is no evidence to disprove Zimmerman’s contention he was walking back to his vehicle when confronted by Martin. The affidavit says “Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued.”
So what did they go on assumption?

The prosecution has admitted they have no proof of their claims in the affidavit. They asked for 1 million dollar bond or refusal of bond because they claim Zimmerman was a threat and needed to be locked up. They got neither. Instead the bond is a fraction of what they asked for so they failed to prove Zimmerman as being "a danger".

 

[Johnfromokc]

Damn- even the "bugglettes" are Zimmerbots.

You Zimmerbigots have found some good company. :24:

 

[The Man]

Damn- even the "bugglettes" are Zimmerbots.

You Zimmerbigots have found some good company. :24:

Whats the latest conspiracy theory John?

 

[The Man]

You are correct again. The bond hearing was huge for the defense. Investigator Dale Gilbreath testified that he does not know whether Martin or Zimmerman threw the first punch and that there is no evidence to disprove Zimmerman’s contention he was walking back to his vehicle when confronted by Martin. The affidavit says “Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued.”
So what did they go on assumption?

The prosecution has admitted they have no proof of their claims in the affidavit. They asked for 1 million dollar bond or refusal of bond because they claim Zimmerman was a threat and needed to be locked up. They got neither. Instead the bond is a fraction of what they asked for so they failed to prove Zimmerman as being "a danger".

The defense was very pleased with the hearing...for sure.
No evidence of a murder being committed and the state pretty much verifying such.

 

[Tim]

The defense was very pleased with the hearing...for sure.
No evidence of a murder being committed and the state pretty much verifying such.

They were?

They asked that the bond be set at $15,000 and the judge set it 10 times higher at $150,000... yeah that must be exactly what they wanted.

 

[mclovin1]

They were?

They asked that the bond be set at $15,000 and the judge set it 10 times higher at $150,000... yeah that must be exactly what they wanted.

Zimmerman is still out on bond....that is what they wanted. The prosecution didn't want that.

 

[Johnfromokc]

Whats the latest conspiracy theory John?

I'm just amusing myself idiot watching.

Carry on.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Will be interesting to watch the court case.I'd have to say that the police department have made it very difficult for a clear judgement in either direction.

 

[The Man]

They were?

They asked that the bond be set at $15,000 and the judge set it 10 times higher at $150,000... yeah that must be exactly what they wanted.

A 15 thousand dollar bond is for dwi .yelling at someone,harassment, etc...did you really think he would get that?
Its outside the guidelines for bond with murder....gee tim.
What the judge did do was make sure he could get out on 15 k however...by a lousy 150 k bond and allowing a bondsman so he had to pay a lousy 15k
So in effect they got what they wanted.

Perhaps you should read up on the case....the defense is happy as they already caught the state lying.

Why does it burn your ass that Zimmerman is out on a very very low bond...when there is no evidence of murder?

Let me ask you Tim ...Do you think evidence should be required to arrest,charge and convict someone?...Or should we go back to the redneck cowboy days and do it your way and just say "guilty"

 

[The Man]

Will be interesting to watch the court case.I'd have to say that the police department have made it very difficult for a clear judgement in either direction.

The media is the guilty one of that not the police.
The original stories said "crazed white guy..guns down little black boy on way back from getting skittle"
They showed pictures of when he was 10 or 12 etc
Edited the 911 tapes to make it look like he said racist remarks
Some prominent racists {Jesse Jackson and the bunch spread lies as well}
Even the president was fooled by the media as he said "If i had a boy he would look like Trayvon"
Such statements have now stopped by the President and comment is very little.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

The media doesn't matter. Even in America, I think you'll find there are rules concerning what can and can't be used as evidence.

 

[The Man]

The media doesn't matter. Even in America, I think you'll find there are rules concerning what can and can't be used as evidence.

The media is the reason this case is a mess..and the only reason he was arrested...there is no evidence

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

It would be a sick,sick sick community that didn't properly investigate the killing of one man by another.

Your persistent assertion that Zimmerman is a saint is nauseating. It's every bit as ignorant and evil as wanting to string him up without trial.

 

[retro]

The media is the reason this case is a mess..and the only reason he was arrested...there is no evidence

The State of Florida disagrees with you. When you consider just how high profile this case is... making or trumping up evidence would be just as damaging as if they hadn't done anything. The last I knew, you weren't privy to the details of the case or how they came to the conclusion that they did. If there wasn't enough evidence to try him, his lawyers could have requested an immediate dismissal of the case, but they didn't... and the judge obviously deemed that there was enough evidence to try Mr. Zimmerman for the crime of murderer in the second degree. You appear to have been blinded by your apparent infatuation with the man.

 

[The Man]

The State of Florida disagrees with you. When you consider just how high profile this case is... making or trumping up evidence would be just as damaging as if they hadn't done anything. The last I knew, you weren't privy to the details of the case or how they came to the conclusion that they did. If there wasn't enough evidence to try him, his lawyers could have requested an immediate dismissal of the case, but they didn't... and the judge obviously deemed that there was enough evidence to try Mr. Zimmerman for the crime of murderer in the second degree. You appear to have been blinded by your apparent infatuation with the man.

Ok tro.
What evidence? I have posted the link twice for the affidavit.
As I said there is no evidence.
Read it and post the evidence contained within.

 

[The Man]

It would be a sick,sick sick community that didn't properly investigate the killing of one man by another.

Your persistent assertion that Zimmerman is a saint is nauseating. It's every bit as ignorant and evil as wanting to string him up without trial.

It would be a sick,sick sick community that didn't properly investigate the killing of one man by another.

It was.

Your persistent assertion that Zimmerman is a saint is nauseating. It's every bit as ignorant and evil as wanting to string him up without trial

Who said he was a saint.
let me guess you would have let the guy bash you to death...so you could be a saint.

Why have a trial without evidence?
You see how ignorant people are..We have idiots that already have him convicted
Why because the guy shot was black...so they think its a hate crime.