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didnt we already have a thread on this once before? i just read the whole thread and i think that somewhere along the line, we have done this debate.
 
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All Else Failed

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I doubt AEF or iced_shrapnel would be too upset over those photos. According to one the child has no rights so it is perfectly ok to slaughter her/him at the discretion of the mother and according to the other the child is nothing more than part of the mother like an arm or your big toe.
Maybe you missed my post that says I don't agree with late term abortions, I just think it's a woman's right to have one.

Reading comprehension is your freind.
 

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Maybe you missed my post that says I don't agree with late term abortions, I just think it's a woman's right to have one.

Reading comprehension is your freind.


Thanks for clearing that up AEF...Thats my take too...I think its messed up...I mean for one, protect yourself so the situation doesn't come along...2, if it does, take care of it sooner....but I still don't think its my right to force that on anyone else.
 

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Maybe you missed my post that says I don't agree with late term abortions, I just think it's a woman's right to have one.

Reading comprehension is your freind.
You disagree with murdering babies but you just champion the right of a woman to do it.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth like the average hypocrite.
 

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please do not look at these pics if you do not want to see the results of late term abortion.

when i trained as a mental handicap we were taught a great deal about the nitty gritty of this practice and shown in graffic detail photos such as these ,,,why because we were training to care for human beings who were deemed useless to society and unwanted

Late-Term Abortions

Whoa, I have to admit those pics throw a whole different light on the subject and drives it straight home. Those look like human beings to me.
 

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You disagree with murdering babies but you just champion the right of a woman to do it.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth like the average hypocrite.
again, you don't understand what I'm saying and you try to paint me as something I am not. Its a common tactic used by you thats hilarious. tsk tsk


Do I want late term abortions happening? No.

Is it my business to tell other women what to do? No.
 

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again, you don't understand what I'm saying and you try to paint me as something I am not. Its a common tactic used by you thats hilarious. tsk tsk
What is hilarious is your feeble attempt to hide your hypocrisy. This is a common tactic used by people such as yourself.

Do I want lat term abortions happening? No.

Is it my business to tell other women what to do? No.
You wouldn't kill a baby yourself but you would back up a woman who would choose to do so. Gotcha. :)
 

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What is hilarious is your feeble attempt to hide your hypocrisy. This is a common tactic used by people such as yourself.


You wouldn't kill a baby yourself but you would back up a woman who would choose to do so. Gotcha. :)


I don't think we'd back her up. I think we'd shake our heads in shame...but we'd realize that she's gotta deal with the moral consequences...whether its punishment from god, or a life filled with anguish and remorse, or hell, if she gets away with it, its unfortunate but its not our business to force her to have that child and possibly put it in danger later. People need to be accountable for their OWN actions instead of living under dictatorship
 

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I don't think we'd back her up.
I'm for it.


*silently bows out of thread*

I think we'd shake our heads in shame...but we'd realize that she's gotta deal with the moral consequences...whether its punishment from god, or a life filled with anguish and remorse, or hell, if she gets away with it, its unfortunate but its not our business to force her to have that child and possibly put it in danger later. People need to be accountable for their OWN actions instead of living under dictatorship
It should be everybody's business to prevent the killing of an innocent child. It's a real shame you can't see that.
What is really scary is how people like you go out of your way to justify such atrocities.
 

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What is hilarious is your feeble attempt to hide your hypocrisy. This is a common tactic used by people such as yourself.


You wouldn't kill a baby yourself but you would back up a woman who would choose to do so. Gotcha. :)
No hypocrisy involved if you could read properly.




Like I said, its none of my business what a woman wants to do with her body. if you want to take away rights then write your congressman, not my problem.
 

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It should be everybody's business to prevent the killing of an innocent child. It's a real shame you can't see that.
What is really scary is how people like you go out of your way to justify such atrocities.
We simply disagree on whether it has rights or not. I don't see it as a right holding entity, you do.

So if a woman wanted to get a late term abortion, would you encourage people to chain her down and not let her get one?
 

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No hypocrisy involved if you could read properly.
It is perfect hypocrisy. You claim to find killing babies deplorable yet you believe others should be allowed to do it. If you had any critical thinking skills you would see that.

Like I said, its none of my business what a woman wants to do with her body. if you want to take away rights then write your congressman, not my problem.
Yeah what do you care? it isn't your baby being killed so what the hell. Shrug your shoulders and keep talking out of both sides of your mouth.
 

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We simply disagree on whether it has rights or not. I don't see it as a right holding entity, you do.
Unborn children have all kinds of rights in this nation. This is a fact not an opinion. If you knew what you were talking about you would know this already.
So if a woman wanted to get a late term abortion, would you encourage people to chain her down and not let her get one?
I would do whatever it takes to keep her from killing the baby. If she does not want the baby then there will be plenty of people lining up to adopt it.
This isn't rocket science.
 

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I didn't even know they would do an 8 month abortion. I thought the latest they went (unless the mother was at risk for death during delivery or something) was 5 months.

Personally, even though I am for abortion and mothers rights, I don't think after the 1st Trimester it should be allowed for simple birth control measures.

Not only is it dangerous for the mother .. seeing as how they have to dialate her cervix and leave it open over night leaving her open to serious infection, among other things .. but also it has been proven that babies can function on their own after 5 months .. anything before 5 and they risk brain damage and severe organ developmental problems (since their organs havent finished forming properly .. and that needs to be done in the womb).
 

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It is perfect hypocrisy. You claim to find killing babies deplorable yet you believe others should be allowed to do it. If you had any critical thinking skills you would see that.

Yeah what do you care? it isn't your baby being killed so what the hell. Shrug your shoulders and keep talking out of both sides of your mouth.
i don't see it as a thing with rights, therefore, not human.

I disagree with it because I think its irresponsible to abort that late. You should know if you want to keep it within the first weeks.


anyways, theres appeals to emotion ALL OVER the place in this thread. Its funny.
 

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So if a woman wanted to get a late term abortion, would you encourage people to chain her down and not let her get one?

I think unless the mothers life is in imminent danger it should not be allowed. I think there should be guidelines as far as how far along abortion is still allowable, with the only exception being complications arising late that endanger the mother. So "chain her down"......no, but late term should not be an option unless it is to save the mother from dangers of continuing the pregnancy.
 

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Unborn children have all kinds of rights in this nation. This is a fact not an opinion. If you knew what you were talking about you would know this already.
As much as I'm sure you want this to be true, unfortunately our legal/justice system does not support your personal opinion on the matter.

The law states that until a baby has actually breathed a breath (and it's lungs contain evidence that oxygen has touched them) .. it was never actually "alive" (since it is actually a part of the mother until it is no longer attached to her body).
 

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I didn't even know they would do an 8 month abortion. I thought the latest they went (unless the mother was at risk for death during delivery or something) was 5 months.

Personally, even though I am for abortion and mothers rights, I don't think after the 1st Trimester it should be allowed for simple birth control measures.

Not only is it dangerous for the mother .. seeing as how they have to dialate her cervix and leave it open over night leaving her open to serious infection, among other things .. but also it has been proven that babies can function on their own after 5 months .. anything before 5 and they risk brain damage and severe organ developmental problems (since their organs havent finished forming properly .. and that needs to be done in the womb).

Jennie, the story in the case I posted was NOT done in america...it was in denmark (i think) and the method of abortion included poisoning the fetus and inducing actual labor.
 
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