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Do you really think I want babies to be killed? I don't. I just think that its a woman's choice.

personally, I don't agree with late term abortions, but we're not talking about what I want.
Your zealous defense of it brings me to that conclusion yes. It isn't hard to figure out where your priorities are when you say a woman's choice of convenience is more important than a child's life.
 
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Gina, you're bordering on mud slinging here, which is taking away from the discussion.

He deals in facts AS HE SEES THEM. Not your facts. His facts. No joke there.

And he does know what he is talking about. This is HIS opinion. Not yours. You don't understand it, but that does not give you the almighty right to claim he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Facts are facts plain and simple. Based on what he is saying he has no clue what he is talking about.
 

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Your zealous defense of it brings me to that conclusion yes. It isn't hard to figure out where your priorities are when you say a woman's choice of convenience is more important than a child's life.
Whooweee! Well folks, she found me out. its me, Hitler in disguise. Damn, I thought I was doing such a good job at keeping it under wraps, too!
 

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Facts are facts plain and simple. Based on what he is saying he has no clue what he is talking about.

Again, I would urge you to realize that his facts are not the same as yours. Based on what his facts are, you say he doesn't know what he is talking about. And that can be your opinion of his opinion. That doesn't make your opinion greater than his though.
 

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Again, I would urge you to realize that his facts are not the same as yours. Based on what his facts are, you say he doesn't know what he is talking about. And that can be your opinion of his opinion. That doesn't make your opinion greater than his though.
He says unborn children have no rights. That statement is not a fact. No I am not just talking about a moral right I am talking about the law.
 

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Did you not see him say he believes in the woman's right to choose? Same thing.

Same thing? I think not. You are taking his words and paraphrasing them. Not really a useful technique in debating, because it assumes you know what he is thinking.
 

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but really, it is AEF. We do know what he is thinking. He is thinking "omg I'm gonna get everyone sooo riled up by playing the devil's advocate"
 

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or its better for the baby to not live at all if the parents are irresponsible and raise a crack baby.
That is too convenient. And there is such a thing called adoption.
If you are going to sit here and tell me it is better to murder a baby because you think the parents are irresponsible, then one can make the argument for anybody to be aborted.
 

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I don't see how saying a baby has no rights is the same as saying an unborn child can be terminated for convenience.
 

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That is too convenient. And there is such a thing called adoption.
If you are going to sit here and tell me it is better to murder a baby because you think the parents are irresponsible, then one can make the argument for anybody to be aborted.
No its doing the child a favor. There are fates worse than death.
 

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I don't see how saying a baby has no rights is the same as saying an unborn child can be terminated for convenience.
But that isn't all he said now is it? Nor did he specify under what conditions should a woman have the right to choose to murder her baby.
 
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