Is it time to legalize pot and reduce the death rate of tobacco and alcohol?

[Greatest I am]

True. All we want as humans is to "feel good."

Personally I like the quote as it points out that as a society we should focus more on why so many people have the need for escape from reality .... but this is such a HUGE picture sort of thing that I don't think there would be any easy fix to remove the factors that cause such a depressing and stressful life on people.

I admit that I abuse my health to retreat away from stress with smoking cigarettes ... such a nasty addiction and habit.

Our children will not stay out of mischief if parents are not there to do their job.
That is why we need to legalize and get the pushers away from our children.

Regards
DL

 

[purpledove]

Just wanna share a pic i took while i was in Venice beach one weekend. There were a lot of clinics like this all over the place & many people were in line to get a prescription. As can be seen the ATM is easy access inside the clinic too

 

[Greatest I am]

Yes. We are rather hiypocritical eh?

Regards
DL

 

[Accountable]

Our children will not stay out of mischief if parents are not there to do their job.
That is why we need to legalize and get the pushers away from our children.

Regards
DL

While I agree that drugs should be legalized, your arguments simply don't make sense. Legalizing drugs will not make parents "there to do their job", and children will still be getting into mischief. Kids get into cigarettes, a legal addictive drug. Kids drink alcohol, a legal addictive drug. Kids' abusing legal prescription drugs is a problem in our schools. Legalizing drugs will not magically remove them from children's reach.

 

[Stone]

While I agree that drugs should be legalized, your arguments simply don't make sense. Legalizing drugs will not make parents "there to do their job", and children will still be getting into mischief. Kids get into cigarettes, a legal addictive drug. Kids drink alcohol, a legal addictive drug. Kids' abusing legal prescription drugs is a problem in our schools. Legalizing drugs will not magically remove them from children's reach.

your arguments simply don't make sense.

Agreed.
I'm assuming he's working on the principle that if he repeats himself enough, someone will take it as fact.

 

[The Man]

Our children will not stay out of mischief if parents are not there to do their job.
That is why we need to legalize and get the pushers away from our children.

Regards
DL

How will legalizing pot help with this?

 

[eyhh]

I definitely think that they should legalize marijuana in the United States. 'Medical' marijuana is a step in the right direction at least.. this country is beginning to catch up with the times & is starting to become a bit more progressive.

Hopefully soon..!

 

[The Man]

I definitely think that they should legalize marijuana in the United States. 'Medical' marijuana is a step in the right direction at least.. this country is beginning to catch up with the times & is starting to become a bit more progressive.

Hopefully soon..!

How about decriminalize?
That way there is still regulation but not a major issue to be caught with it

 

[eyhh]

It isn't a crime to be caught with marijuana (unless it's over a certain amount), it's a violation, which is why I used the word "legalize".

And yes, I also think that it should be regulated.

 

[The Man]

It isn't a crime to be caught with marijuana (unless it's over a certain amount), it's a violation, which is why I used the word "legalization".

And yes, I also think that it should be regulated.

Depends upon the location as to the amounts and the punishment.

But not sure if I understood your prior post ..you want it legalized /but to be regulated{following post}
Which regulations do you propose

 

[eyhh]

Regulated by age.. like tobacco.

Though, decriminalization is definitely better than nothing. Moving it from schedule I to schedule IV would be cool.

 

[The Man]

Regulated by age.. like tobacco.

Though, decriminalization is definitely better than nothing. Moving it from schedule I to schedule IV would be cool.

There are other issues to consider Tobacco inst considered a mood altering substance...We wouldnt want a crane operator for instance being high nor that surgeon that is doing an operation on ones liver.

IMO {In my Opinion} it should resemble more along the lines of alcohol than tobacco as far as regulations as it is a substance that alters one state of mind

 

[eyhh]

Yeah, but alcohol & tobacco are both regulated the same way.. the only difference is a couple years.
I was just relating it to tobacco because both are smoked.

But you're right.. it's more like alcohol in the sense that it is psychoactive.

 

[The Man]

Yeah, but alcohol & tobacco are both regulated the same way.. the only difference is a couple years.
I was just relating it to tobacco because both are smoked.

But you're right.. it's more like alcohol in the sense that it is psychoactive.

Sort of..tobacco is more age related and laws have been coming into effect of no smoking in buildings open to the public..other than that you can light up a smoke when you please.

With weed an entire area will have to be considered..."when is it not ok to be high" "how much can one grow" second hand smoke just like cigarettes.
Punishments for giving weed to children {just as with tobacco and alcohol}...Urine tests at work for something that is deemed legal....alot of legislation will be needed

I have no issue with weed itself .. I just do not approve of unregulated legalization{same as you}

 

[eyhh]

It just seems to me like it could be so simple.. there's no need for a complicated web of laws like there is for everything nowadays. The problem really lies in defining marijuana. Is it a plant, naturally grown & harvested, right from the earth? Or is it a drug?
You see, that's where marijuana differs from alcohol & other drugs. There are steps that must be taken to manipulate sugars/chemicals to synthesize alcohol/drugs whereas there's no human element in the production of marijuana. It simply grows. That's also why I likened it to tobacco.. they're both just plants.
Plus, alcohol & synthetic drugs are often harmful or have dire side-effects. Relatively, marijuana is very safe.

PS. & when it comes to giving it to children etc., it could be treated just as if it was alcohol. The penalties are pretty severe; as they should be.

 

[Stone]

It just seems to me like it could be so simple.. there's no need for a complicated web of laws like there is for everything nowadays. The problem really lies in defining marijuana. Is it a plant, naturally grown & harvested, right from the earth? Or is it a drug?
You see, that's where marijuana differs from alcohol & other drugs. There are steps that must be taken to manipulate sugars/chemicals to synthesize alcohol/drugs whereas there's no human element in the production of marijuana. It simply grows. That's also why I likened it to tobacco.. they're both just plants.

Your logic would also apply to opium...
The issue at hand are the effects on the users and in turn on those around the users----> society.
Opium is merely more obvious as a destructive element.
So the issue at hand is one of relative influence. At what time does that influence become such a negative force that society sees it as too disruptive to allow as acceptable behavior?

In a complex society, that level of acceptable abuse would naturally be lower than one of simplicity.
Many citizens feel today's society would not support a culture of drug abuse......so laws exist to reduce that level of influence to one of society's survival.
But as you can see, draconian laws can have a negative influence at the same time.


The current drug laws are too draconian to the user.
Legalization of drug abuse too tolerant of the pusher for effectiveness .
That leaves decriminalization a logical concept to consider.

 

[Mercury]

.......... I have to say that opium would be my drug of choice.

 

[Stone]

.....( just saw your edit )


Plus, alcohol & synthetic drugs are often harmful or have dire side-effects. Relatively, marijuana is very safe.

PS. & when it comes to giving it to children etc., it could be treated just as if it was alcohol. The penalties are pretty severe; as they should be.

Almost anything to excess is unsafe, almost anything used 'in moderation' is 'safe'.
Logically....the concept of moderation defines the 'safe' limit that does no harm..

But that's not an issue of safety as an absolute.....it's merely what the individual could get away with with out harming them self.
This is where the 'relative' comes in. It takes more abuse of pot to generate negative physical effects.

BUT.....an issue to contend with is that the decision to abuse pot often is a decision to enter a culture of drug abuse......the same consideration a first time abuser would make the first time experiencing a drug such as cocaine.
Pot is just considered a 'safer' doorway to that culture.

 

[Stone]

.......... I have to say that opium would be my drug of choice.

Mine's a fast motorcycle

 

[Mercury]

Mine's a fast motorcycle

Ah, so you like excitement or "the rush!" I am definitely more of a "calming" type. Which is kinda strange now that I think of it since I used to love the rush feeling from flying.