Is it ok to be proud of your skin color?

[AUDRAA]

I have a problem with being so superficial. Who you are is mostly whats in your head and heart. Who cares what you look like?

Im still not getting your point what does whats in your head in heart and being proud have to do with being a racist?

 

[All Else Failed]

There is really no point in debating with you AEF, if something doesn't go your way, you twist and warp the point to fit your argument. Suzie provided you with HARD DATA, and yet you still argue.

I'm not arguing that blacks are involved with more crime at all. I'm just going after the causes.

Im still not getting your point what does whats in your head in heart and being proud have to do with being a racist?

I never called you racist?

 

[boxer810]

Oh so because they grew up poor that gives them leeway to commit crimes?? I grew up poor as dirt but I became law enforcement! I worked hard and didn't feel sorry for myself. What's their excuse??

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh so because they grew up poor that gives them leeway to commit crimes?? I grew up poor as dirt but I became law enforcement! I worked hard and didn't feel sorry for myself. What's their excuse??

Poor people are more desperate, undereducated and lack opportunities, they will often resort to crime because of these points.

What, do you think black people are all savage monkeys that like to be this way?

 

[AUDRAA]

I'm not arguing that blacks are involved with more crime at all. I'm just going after the causes.



I never called you racist?

no not outright but you are implying it pretty strongly here

oh and lets keep the insults out of it here just because you dont agree with an opinion doesnt make the other person an idiot

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh so because they grew up poor that gives them leeway to commit crimes?? I grew up poor as dirt but I became law enforcement! I worked hard and didn't feel sorry for myself. What's their excuse??

I never said its right to do crime if you're poor, did I? Nope. I'm just explaining why they do.

P.S. the fact that you're white gives you a massive advantage over minorities when it comes to getting a job. Thats something they do not have.

 

[All Else Failed]

no not outright but you are implying it pretty strongly here

oh and lets keep the insults out of it here just because you dont agree with an opinion doesnt make the other person an idiot

The only thing I am implying is that I think its a waste of time to be proud over something you had no part of.


No see JT is a racist idiot.

 

[boxer810]

Oh please! In my hometown I was the MINORITY in my college!! White people actually had to be PAID to go to that college! And because I wasn't BLACK I was more likely to be passed over for a job! Gimme a break, black people are passed over not because of their color, but because of the way they carry themselves, the way they speak, and the way they act.

 

[Suzie]

I can guarantee you that this has to do with class and poverty. Crime has a direct correlation with poverty.




I think it would be interesting to know why you think they do. I'm guessing its not going to be poverty.

You keep going around everything. You ask for proof, and someone provides it.
Whose fault is it that they are in poverty? White people?
Your just too scared to admit the facts.

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh please! In my hometown I was the MINORITY in my college!! White people actually had to be PAID to go to that college! And because I wasn't BLACK I was more likely to be passed over for a job! Gimme a break, black people are passed over not because of their color, but because of the way they carry themselves, the way they speak, and the way they act.

I rest my case.

 

[All Else Failed]

You keep going around everything. You ask for proof, and someone provides it.
Whose fault is it that they are in poverty? White people?
Your just too scared to admit the facts.

I knew that proof existed.


It actually is mainly the white establishment that oppressed blacks into generations of poverty. Do you seriously think the effects of slavery and segregation just disappear after a few generations?

 

[boxer810]

You rest your case? I was poor, but I learned, IN THE SAME SCHOOLS AS BLACK PEOPLE, how to speak properly, how to read and write, what was right and what was wrong. So, now explain how they are SO much worse off than I was.

 

[Suzie]

I knew that proof existed.


It actually is mainly the white establishment that oppressed blacks into generations of poverty. Do you seriously think the effects of slavery and segregation just disappear after a few generations?

Your losing.

 

[All Else Failed]

You rest your case? I was poor, but I learned, IN THE SAME SCHOOLS AS BLACK PEOPLE, how to speak properly, how to read and write, what was right and what was wrong. So, now explain how they are SO much worse off than I was.

So what is it boxer? What is ti do you think in your mind makes blacks this way? Are they a inferior people to whites?


The fact that racism is still vibrant in American business is the reason why they have it worse. Along with a multitude of different reasons.

Your losing.

Not quite, hon. <333

 

[SRC]

your probably of celtic heritage.......probably scottish or irish

Actually ... I'm more German than anything with a smidge Black Dutch and the rest is Irish (my great grandmother was full blooded .. it's a type of indian from AL, and my great grandfather was 1/2 Irish and 1/2 German .. the rest of my family, on my dads side, is 100% German).

 

[Suzie]

I knew that proof existed.


It actually is mainly the white establishment that oppressed blacks into generations of poverty. Do you seriously think the effects of slavery and segregation just disappear after a few generations?

You stated earlier that you would like to see proof...and then you would believe it. Theres proof...hon. <3 <3
So now what is your excuse? Oh wait... it is the WHITE people that caused the blacks to do the crime... of course...its clear to me now. :smiley24: Your running around in circles... dont sit here and say you want proof, and then get it, and backstab saying you "already knew there was proof".

 

[All Else Failed]

You stated earlier that you would like to see proof...and then you would believe it. Theres proof...hon. <3 <3
So now what is your excuse? Oh wait... it is the WHITE people that caused the blacks to do the crime... of course...its clear to me now. :smiley24: Your running around in circles... dont sit here and say you want proof, and then get it, and backstab saying you "already knew there was proof".

I stated that earlier to see if he could actually even justify his statements, and he didn't even bother to look things up. That was to make a point about Mr. Master race.


I'm not saying whites are guiding the hands of black criminals, but the white establishment has had a giant indirect/direct role in keeping blacks in poverty for a long time. Think about it, segregation ended relatively not that long ago. That generation is still alive for fuck's sakes. It doesn't go away that quickly.

 

[boxer810]

So what is it boxer? What is ti do you think in your mind makes blacks this way? Are they a inferior people to whites?


The fact that racism is still vibrant in American business is the reason why they have it worse. Along with a multitude of different reasons.

No, the reason they have it worse is because they CHOOSE to act like idiots, they CHOOSE to dress like ragamuffins, they CHOOSE to commit crimes, they CHOOSE not to learn to talk correctly! There are PLENTY of black people that are very articulate, successful people, and I'm good friends with them. They had no problems doing what was right!

 

[Suzie]

I stated that earlier to see if he could actually even justify his statements, and he didn't even bother to look things up. That was to make a point about Mr. Master race.

Like I said...back-stepping. That is just weak.

 

[All Else Failed]

No, the reason they have it worse is because they CHOOSE to act like idiots, they CHOOSE to dress like ragamuffins, they CHOOSE to commit crimes, they CHOOSE not to learn to talk correctly! There are PLENTY of black people that are very articulate, successful people, and I'm good friends with them. They had no problems doing what was right!

yes, they choose to be in poverty. lmfao what a joke. :24:


Maybe you should tell your "black freinds" what you say here. I bet you'll get mighty nervous.

You just refuse to see the underlying social problems blacks still face because for some reason you seem to dislike having some of the blame placed on your own people.

Like I said...back-stepping. That is just weak.

Um no you're just missing my points.