Is it ok to be proud of your skin color?

[boxer810]

yes, they choose to be in poverty. lmfao what a joke. :24:


Maybe you should tell your "black freinds" what you say here. I bet you'll get mighty nervous.

You just refuse to see the underlying social problems blacks still face because for some reason you seem to dislike having some of the blame placed on your own people.




Um no you're just missing my points.

I never said anything about them choosing poverty, stop twisting my words. I said that they choose not to do anything about it! How many times must I tell you, plenty of my black friends grew up poor like me and they are successful people now. So once again, WHAT IS THEIR EXCUSE?

 

[Suzie]

Um no you're just missing my points.

If you say so hon.

 

[All Else Failed]

I never said anything about them choosing poverty, stop twisting my words. I said that they choose not to do anything about it! How many times must I tell you, plenty of my black friends grew up poor like me and they are successful people now. So once again, WHAT IS THEIR EXCUSE?

Thats the same as choosing to stay in poverty :24:


I'm not saying its impossible for blacks to become successful. I know many. its just that a few examples doesn't mean everyone has an equal chance. People in extreme poverty in a subtle bigoted society will often not get the chances you or they did.

 

[boxer810]

Oh you are IMPOSSIBLE! It is NOT THE SAME THING! Working hard in school, learning manners, all that costs nothing!

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh you are IMPOSSIBLE! It is NOT THE SAME THING! Working hard in school, learning manners, all that costs nothing!

I never said anything about them choosing poverty


then you said


they choose not to do anything about it!



By not doing anything about their poverty they are choosing to not do anything. They are hypothetically choosing to stay in poverty.

 

[SRC]

I'm not saying its impossible for blacks to become successful. I know many. its just that a few examples doesn't mean everyone has an equal chance. People in extreme poverty in a subtle bigoted society will often not get the chances you or they did.

Guess who gets the majority of grants at colleges .. WHEN THEY ASK FOR THEM? The black students. Problem is .. they won't because they are too "proud". So their OWN pride gets them right where they end up .. impoverished and uneducated.

My friend Tiffany (who is white) has tried every quarter for 3 years to get one .. they keep telling her they are out each quarter (even though she is a straight A student with no tardies or absences) .. my friend Della (who is black) went down to the financial aide office (same one Tiffany keeps going to) and applied .. she now has a grant.

You can't MAKE a person help themselves .. the help is THERE ... IF they want the help. They even have the Negro College Funds just for them, black colleges with special financial aide opportunities .. they CAN better themselves .. problem is that takes effort, and most blacks (from what I've seen) don't want to put forth the effort to better themselves .. like the rest of us have to do.

That is what pisses me off. I have to work 2 jobs to be able go to school and afford my books and supplies .. and then I'll still have to pay back a 45 thousand dollar student loan when I graduate .. and they (black people) can go basically FOR FREE yet most of them still won't get off their lazy asses and do it. It pisses me off to NO END to know that and then hear people like you spout off about how BAD they have it and that they don't have the OPPORTUNITY to better themselves.

It's a load of BULLSHIT that you've obviously picked up from "them" going to their schools and listening to them whine about how shitty us white people treated them and how we've "held them down".

It's complete fucking bullshit!

 

[boxer810]

EXACTLY SRC!! Black students are given the majority of the grants that they apply for because society is SO concerned with the NAACP crawling up their ass about it.

 

[All Else Failed]

haha. well, its been nice talking to you nice folks, but do to some warnings I'm choosing to bow out of this thread. Have fun gawking over your skin tone.

 

[Suzie]

Guess who gets the majority of grants at colleges .. WHEN THEY ASK FOR THEM? The black students. Problem is .. they won't because they are too "proud". So their OWN pride gets them right where they end up .. impoverished and uneducated.

My friend Tiffany (who is white) has tried every quarter for 3 years to get one .. they keep telling her they are out each quarter (even though she is a straight A student with no tardies or absences) .. my friend Della (who is black) went down to the financial aide office (same one Tiffany keeps going to) and applied .. she now has a grant.

You can't MAKE a person help themselves .. the help is THERE ... IF they want the help. They even have the Negro College Funds just for them, black colleges with special financial aide opportunities .. they CAN better themselves .. problem is that takes effort, and most blacks (from what I've seen) don't want to put forth the effort to better themselves .. like the rest of us have to do.

That is what pisses me off. I have to work 2 jobs to be able go to school and afford my books and supplies .. and then I'll still have to pay back a 45 thousand dollar student loan when I graduate .. and they (black people) can go basically FOR FREE yet most of them still won't get off their lazy asses and do it. It pisses me off to NO END to know that and then hear people like you spout off about how BAD they have it and that they don't have the OPPORTUNITY to better themselves.

It's a load of BULLSHIT that you've obviously picked up from "them" going to their schools and listening to them whine about how shitty us white people treated them and how we've "held them down".

It's complete fucking bullshit!

:clap:clap:clap

 

[boxer810]

haha. well, its been nice talking to you nice folks, but do to some warnings I'm choosing to bow out of this thread. Have fun gawking over your skin tone.

:smiley24: :waving:

 

[Trance97]

If you think about... was slavery all that bad?

We brought blacks from a continent that currently faces, poverty, starvation, genecide, aids.... etc.

It was a favor.

 

[Tim]

If you think about... was slavery all that bad?

We brought blacks from a continent that currently faces, poverty, starvation, genecide, aids.... etc.

It was a favor.

You seriously need to stop. I think you have shown your true colors and to continue your ignorant statements doesn't bode well.


I find it funny that this thread was started for the sole purpose of defending JT's statement saying he was proud to be white. And that he wasn't a racist for saying it...

Do you feel silly now?

 

[satinbutterfly]

Funny how a thread about being proud of your skin color has turned into a racial debate. :smiley24:

 

[Trance97]

Funny how a thread about being proud of your skin color has turned into a racial debate. :smiley24:

STFU











Jk

 

[satinbutterfly]

STFU
Jk

:fing27

 

[Trance97]

You seriously need to stop. I think you have shown your true colors and to continue your ignorant statements doesn't bode well.


I find it funny that this thread was started for the sole purpose of defending JT's statement saying he was proud to be white. And that he wasn't a racist for saying it...

Do you feel silly now?

Yes, I do. I'm sorry everyone.

 

[Tim]

If anyone feels they have more to add to this thread, feel free. But please try to stick to the topic so it doesn't end up in the recycling bin.

So please keep to the topic.

Thanks

 

[Peter Parka]

I guess as already been pointed out, it depends on your definition of proud. For the benefit of using the word I am going to use it as pride as in trying to represent something well. I try to represent my country well, I am proud of some of our attitudes and quirks (in general) but not of others. When it comes to a skin colour though, I really don't see what's to represent. Being white is not a culture. I'm English but my culture have very little in common with Americans, Germans, French ect.

 

[MMMMatilde]

I posted earlier about being proud..

I'm proud that I have skin, whether it be black or it be white is a whole different thing..

It's how you want to represent it..

They have stereotypes for different skin colours, but just because they have these it shouldn't mean you have to embarassed about it..
You are a different person to a stereotype and you should be allowed to be proud of who you are with your own skin.

Whether it be black or white.. It's just a skin colour, nothing more to it..

 

[SRC]

If you think about... was slavery all that bad?

We brought blacks from a continent that currently faces, poverty, starvation, genecide, aids.... etc.

It was a favor.

erm .. I don't think I would call what happened to them a favor .. it was not nice what happened to them .. but I honestly don't think I should be paying for something someone else did.

I can't help what happened to them, and i don't agree with what happened to them .. but I'm tired of being held responsible for it. We don't hold the families of people who have murdered people responsible for years and years ..

That being said .. I'm still proud of my white speckled skin and the red hair that came with it. I happen to think it's quite purty.

That is all.