Is it ok to be proud of your skin color?

[All Else Failed]

How come black people are known to commit more crimes?

First, provide me with reputable data that shows this, and I'll believe it.

You know whats funny? Long, long ago, your master race was still fiddling with himself in the bushes while Asian, Muslins and various other non-Europeans were in golden ages.

 

[All Else Failed]

ok.......the portuguese and spanish started slavery.......being european they're classed as white,not technically so.......ome centuries ago the moors invaded much of the iberian peninisula......they stayed they for centuries,hence spaniards having darker skin......my point is that africans had a hand in something that the white race did wrong..........and as for the slave issue........the europeans stopped raiding inland looking for victims......they preferred to trade with the masters of 'slave cities' on the coast of africa.....these slave cities were set up and ran by the strongest african slaves......so in effect the black race has done just as bad to his own kind.........and dont forget it was the english that finally put a stop to the trading of new slaves by destroying these citie,watch the movie 'amistad....so the white race has done some good

The Spanish did not "start slavery". Slavery was started more or less by rival African tribesmen and Muslim merchants. Euros got into the slave game relatively late. Many Spaniards have darker skin because of the invasion of various Moor tribes, not because they were isolated. If you go to Spain today they look very white, actually.

You're trying to take some slack off of Europeans for help setting up some slave ran cities? How is that a good thing?

There's nothing wrong with being proud of your race. Black people have the NAACP, Black History Month, and all that stuff. But when white people say something about being proud, we're suddenly racist. It's gone on forever, and it will continue to go on. I'm Irish, and DAMN proud of it. Does that make me racist against Germans or Italians or whatever? NO! It just makes me proud to be who I am.

White people have the American government and most important institutions across the globe.

tell that to kunte kinte's descendents who......instead of living in some war torn famine ravaged country in africa are now living in the worlds wealthiest nation

Um, are you trying to suggest blacks owe something to their white slave masters for kidnapping them, killing, torturing, and subjugating them to hundreds of years of death and humiliation just because they happened to end up in a rich country? lmfao.

Proof of 20 million?

why the fuck does that even matter? Its well into the high millions.

 

[Cotton]

lol so blacks sold each other into slavery but the white man is the devil. I

 

[Cotton]

First, provide me with reputable data that shows this, and I'll believe it.

You know whats funny? Long, long ago, your master race was still fiddling with himself in the bushes while Asian, Muslins and various other non-Europeans were in golden ages.

God you must hate yourself than you evil white devil. You hate your country and you hate your skin.

But in the end being a "white kid from the upper middle class, with a car and two parents." hasn't been so bad has it?

 

[All Else Failed]

lol so blacks sold each other into slavery but the white man is the devil. I

Yet again, cotton completely misses my points.


Of course ALL slave trade is bad, no matter who does it. Black, white, yellow, I don't give a shit. Slavery is bad. Whites and blacks who took part in it were bad.

 

[All Else Failed]

God you must hate yourself than you evil white devil. You hate your country and you hate your skin.

But in the end being a "white kid from the upper middle class, with a car and two parents." hasn't been so bad has it?

lololololololololol


I actually love America, just not the government. I don't hate or love my skin its just skin, I just don't have a low enough self esteem or that deluded to think its important lol.


What I don't get is with some of you, think that if you don't religiously revere your skin as somehting special you must hate it. Thats stupid.


Who said being white and from the middle class is bad? i don't think its bad, and I know I have more advantages than most minorities and even more lower class whites, its not like I can help it.

 

[skyblue]

. Many Spaniards have darker skin because of the invasion of various Moor tribes, not because they were isolated

If you go to Spain today they look very white.

You're trying to take some slack off of Europeans for help setting up some slave ran cities? How is that a good thing

Many Spaniards have darker skin because of the invasion of various Moor tribes, not because they were isolated.as i stated

If you go to Spain today they look very white, spain is a popular british holiday destination......i've been a few times and trust me they're darker than most europeans

You're trying to take some slack off of Europeans for help setting up some slave ran cities? How is that a good thing?so blaming spain and portugal is taking the heat off europeans?

 

[All Else Failed]

Many Spaniards have darker skin because of the invasion of various Moor tribes, not because they were isolated.as i stated

If you go to Spain today they look very white, spain is a popular british holiday destination......i've been a few times and trust me they're darker than most europeans

You're trying to take some slack off of Europeans for help setting up some slave ran cities? How is that a good thing?so blaming spain and portugal is taking the heat off europeans?

I've been to Spain. They have a slightly darker complexion (some more than other depending on their ancestry), but overall they aren't "OMG DARK!".

No I'm saying that I think its ridiculous that you seem to suggest that Europeans setting up slave ran cities is somehow an indication that black slave trade was just as bad if not worse than white slave trade.

 

[skyblue]

I've been to Spain. They have a slightly darker complexion (some more than other depending on their ancestry), but overall they aren't "OMG DARK!".

No I'm saying that I think its ridiculous that you seem to suggest that Europeans setting up slave ran cities is somehow an indication that black slave trade was just as bad if not worse than white slave trade.

it wasn't me that said europeans set those cities up.......i said europeans traded with them

 

[All Else Failed]

it wasn't me that said europeans set those cities up.......i said europeans traded with them

Well, there were some that Euros set up, but sorry for the misread.

 

[skyblue]

at the end of the day.....slavery continues even today........it really needs to be challenged at a higher level

 

[All Else Failed]

True. We're all a part of it too. if you own clothes, or own gold or diamonds, you're pretty much funding it.

 

[Cotton]

True. We're all a part of it too. if you own clothes, or own gold or diamonds, you're pretty much funding it.

but..but... how will Walmart keep their prices cheap?


BRB going to burn all my clothes... hell going to burn everything I own.

 

[All Else Failed]

but..but... how will Walmart keep their prices cheap?


BRB going to burn all my clothes... hell going to burn everything I own.

There are products that aren't made by child slavery.

 

[Cotton]

There are products that aren't made by child slavery.

Pssh I bet they cost a lot more.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

The Spanish did not "start slavery". Slavery was started more or less by rival African tribesmen and Muslim merchants. Euros got into the slave game relatively late. Many Spaniards have darker skin because of the invasion of various Moor tribes, not because they were isolated. If you go to Spain today they look very white, actually.

Pardon my stupidity, the timelines are confusing me. You know much more than me in this regard. But wasn't there slavery in the old days of Egypt around the time of Moses?

If this is so wouldn't slavery already have been in existence from since then many decades or centuries before?

Or is it that the time of Moses came after the time you're referring to above re rival African tribesmen and Muslim merchants re African slave trade to the so called new world?

 

[All Else Failed]

Pardon my stupidity, the timelines are confusing me. You know much more than me in this regard. But wasn't there slavery in the old days of Egypt around the time of Moses?

If this is so wouldn't slavery already have been in existence from since then many decades or centuries before?

Or is it that the time of Moses came after the time you're referring to above re rival African tribesmen and Muslim merchants?

Yes, but slaves building the Pyramids is a myth. No slaves were used, only Egyptian skilled labor who were payed and lived near the construction site.

I'm talking about mass slavery of Africans that mainly started well after.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Yes, but slaves building the Pyramids is a myth. No slaves were used, only Egyptian skilled labor who were payed and lived near the construction site.

I'm talking about mass slavery of Africans that mainly started well after.

Yes to what?
Yes, slavery existed during the time of Moses?

If this is so, then what I was getting at was that slavery didn't start in Africa around the time just preceding the mass slavery of Africans to the so called new world but was already in existence many many centuries before that in Egypt. So long I can't even fathom a guess as to how many years before. See what I'm saying?

 

[Breath]

I s'pose this is the way it's going to be.

For those of us who do not claim to be proud of our race, it's because it's a quality that we had nothing to do with, on the surface. We are more proud of accomplishments that we or our loved ones have done.

For those of you who claim to be proud of your race, you have a sense of pride in what the generations before you have accomplished. You have a sense of a group identity, rather than an appreciation for your own self-worth.

I am meaning no disrespect at all...but look at the implications of what I just said. Doesn't it appear that the more confident and self assured you are, that the more you'd want to be proud of what YOU do rather than what generations before you did?

 

[skyblue]

nancy........i have a question.......do you sing the star spangled banner and put your hand on your heart at sporting events and such?