Is it fair to arbitrarily increase punishment to your child?

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mazHur

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Why wouldn't it be fair? Your kid, your rules, your choice of punishment.


Just imagine where would a child neglected by his parents for any reason stand..
thank parents for the love and care they bestow on their children...exceptions excluded.

http://www.americanhumane.org/about-us/newsroom/fact-sheets/child-neglect.html

''Fact Sheets

Child Neglect

Child neglect is the most prevalent form of child maltreatment in the United States. According to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System (NCANDS), of the approximately 899,000 children in the United States who were victims of abuse and neglect in 2005, 62.8 percent (564,765 children) suffered from neglect alone, including medical neglect (USDHHS, 2007). According to NCANDS, 42.2 percent of child maltreatment fatalities in the United States in 2005 occurred as a result of neglect only, 24.1 percent as a result of physical abuse and neglect, and 27.3 percent as a result of multiple maltreatment types (USDHHS, 2007). In an independent study, Prevent Child Abuse America estimated that 1,291 children in the United States died in 2000 as a result of maltreatment, and that 45 percent of these child maltreatment fatalities were attributable to neglect (Peddle et al., 2002). NCANDS reported an increase of approximately 20,000 victims between 2004 and 2005. This is largely due to the inclusion of data from Alaska and Puerto Rico in the 2005 dataset (USDHHS, 2007).''
 
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GoatCode

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What kind of punishment is that.
You didn't clean your room?! That's it I"m not taking care of you for a day.
WHAT IT'S STILL NOT CLEAN A MONTH NOW!

I don't think that's the reason children are neglected. I think that that's just the way that some parents are and that's not their choice of punishment.
 

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As for this comment towards Guy.. You need to check yourself mate, do you even have bloody kids? I don't but at least I have respect for my parents!! Think you owe him a apologie!
Roxi I never even bothered to watch his video. I've got him all figured out now and don't intend to waste another second on him... it... whatever.
 

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Because he can? Seriously, he's the parent and it's his punishment, and heck, that punishment might have been effective in the past. Now as I say, violent beatings aren't to be condoned, but if the kid has behaved better after a smack on the legs before then the likelihood is it will work again. And as I alluded to, if it's worked before, then it isn't less helpful because it's worked in the past.



But again, that's untrue if it's proven to have been effective in the past in dealing with a misbehaving child.





Of course it's disrespectful, because the kid is overriding the parent and choosing his parent without thinking to apologize for not making his bed. Now sure that might tell us that not making the bed gets that kid that punishment, but it doesn't make it better.

As I say, it's up to a parent to choose the punishment and make it stick. It's no good for example to ground a kid for 3 days, and thne on day 1 for the kid's friends to clal round for him, you say he's not coming out, but then the kid goes "pleaseeeeeeeeeee" and you relent and let him out, because it shows weakness in authority and it also shows that that the kid might think "Hey that was easy, I could get away with that way"

I hope you never have children. They will not respect your might makes right idiocy.
To rules with fear instead of intelligence shows that you must like the free will that God gives.:yuk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_709983&feature=iv&v=aUtSM2oVy_E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_180871&feature=iv&v=Nv9IvCpiHxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_511982&feature=iv&v=H0wSjJAsrAk

If God gave a hoot about the free will that He supposedly gave us, He sure is an Indian giver all over the O T where He tramples all over man’s free will to live as He went about killing us at Sodom and using genocide on us in Noah‘s day.
God is quite the immoral -------

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78H-tRFShiY

You and I will not have productive chats or sgreement on much so you may want to just ignore me.

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Our kid lives under a Monarchy. What we say goes. If she doesn't like it and thinks it's unfair she gets another lesson in the fact that life ain't fair.:D:cool

And if you add arbitrary punishment, you show your child that even the you are not fair.
Nice thought for a child to grow up with. Great example.

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They ring to my ear like all other arrogant posturings of blowhards like yourself - completely meaningless and irrelevant.

You want to believe that you are somehow "right" and others are wrong or somehow less intelligent
than you because they don't share the same views. People with any sense of humility tend to express their opinions with qualifying words like "I believe" or "I think." Clearly you neither know nor care the difference in fact and opinion, and that is why I would never indulge you in an attempt at meaningful debate.

If you cannot, you should not.
If I did not believe that what I was saying was right, I would not say it fool.

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Oh goodie... we've now established that you are another poster with poor reading and comprehension skills. Instead of putting words in my mouth show me where I mentioned slapping anyone. While you're at it show me in your OP where you mentioned physical punishment. You don't even know what the fuck you wrote. What a waste of time and humanity.

Yes you are.
You seem to forget what the issue is and that we are working with an imaginary scenario.

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To tell you parent no I don't feel like it ill take the grounding is disrespecting a request made by the parent and accepting the PUNISHMENT so ill stick by my comment.. its called a punishment for a reason dear..

B S.

If the rule is either or then why is chosing or disrespectful. He is following your rules?

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Children must respect their parents, whatever.

It is a very special and divinely-endowed fiduciary relation between parent and children...
and demands of children respecting their parent and never being insolent to them.
If they don't respect their parents one can expect a quicker breakdown of the family....
due to indiscipline, disrespect and meanness.

As to parents role towards children that is not the topic here ....so no comments at this point.

Would you advise the child raped by her father while the mother turns a blind eye that she should respect her parents?
That abuse is about 2% of the population and statistics place the number, over all, of parents that abuse their children in other ways at about 30%.

Respect, like love, is something that is earned my friend. To give it where it is not earned is wrong.

Your rhetoric is garbage.

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Why wouldn't it be fair? Your kid, your rules, your choice of punishment.

What is wrong is that you lied initially about your choice of punishment.
He expected you would be true to your word of a 2 day grounding but you were not and just changed your rules after the fact.

That is like you going in to pay a $ 100.00 ticket and the judge saying, I am changing that rule right now and you have to pay me $ 200.00.

Would you think that fair?

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Why is this troll even allowed to waste our time with his mindless drivel?

I suggest we demonstrate just how arbitrary our own OTZ sense of fairness is and just pound him with the ban stick. He has clearly violated our "no trolling" policy.
 

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Why is this troll even allowed to waste our time with his mindless drivel?

I suggest we demonstrate just how arbitrary our own OTZ sense of fairness is and just pound him with the ban stick. He has clearly violated our "no trolling" policy.

Troll as defined as someone who knows the real politique and that that reality hurts your head.
What terrible tragedies realism inflicts on people.

OTZ shows that banning decision are made by adults and not children like you.

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Yes you are.
You seem to forget what the issue is and that we are working with an imaginary scenario.

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DL
You haven't addressed what I said to you. Is it because your brain is too small to comprehend what the fuck you actually said or because it's too late for you to go back and edit your fucking omission?
 

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Why is this troll even allowed to waste our time with his mindless drivel?

I suggest we demonstrate just how arbitrary our own OTZ sense of fairness is and just pound him with the ban stick. He has clearly violated our "no trolling" policy.
Orange Guy I gotta tell you if it were my site I would have done it ages ago. In all my years on the net I have never experienced the mindless bullshit this fucking troll dishes out. Chubby Checker don't twist like he does.
 

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Stop the pissing contest!!!!! You that are doing it know who i am talking about! Last warning before people get infarcted!!!
 

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Stop the pissing contest!!!!! You that are doing it know who i am talking about! Last warning before people get infarcted!!!
Ok fuzzy I've done it your way. I reported 3 posts if memory serves me correct. Some of my comments pertain to him being allowed to twist what I've said, continue to not respond to a rebuttal and or paint me in a light that makes me appear to be a child hating demon.
 
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