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I would ask you to look up the def of pride. It is more than just something you take part in personally. Once you have seen an expanded definition, you'll see why we are arguing apples and oranges here.
 

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I would ask you to look up the def of pride. It is more than just something you take part in personally. Once you have seen an expanded definition, you'll see why we are arguing apples and oranges here.
I have, and all of them refer to personal doing.
 

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Well, I'm proud that my ancestors were proud people... how bout that... They had a vision, knew they couldnt make it work where they were.. hopped on the boat and came here... They were proud and persistent... as am I... perhaps its genetic
You can't be proud of a vision they had that you yourself wasn't a part of.


You feel HAPPY and THANKFUL for their vision. You're just mixing up terms.
 

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I feel pride in my country because I feel in one way or another I am a part of it and what makes it what it is, some people do it by their work and what they bring financially to their country, others do it by social and cultural means. I always see myself as a representative of my country. I may only be one man but foreigners bumping into me will judge my whole country on the few experiences they have of us when the're over here. Any tourist I bump into over here, I try to be as friendly and helpful as possible to and try to project a good image on my country. I might not bring anything much economically to my country but I do by leaving people with a favourable view on our culture, manners ect.
 

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How can I not be proud of something I didnt create... I cant be proud for my niece for doing well in school? Or for a friend that has a new job? I am frikkin proud... I dont care what definition you go by...

Pride, happiness, and being thankful dont all feel the same


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How can I not be proud of something I didnt create... I cant be proud for my niece for doing well in school? Or for a friend that has a new job? I am frikkin proud... I dont care what definition you go by...

Pride, happiness, and being thankful dont all feel the same


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well they may all feel the same but they are inherently different.

oh well its not a big deal how you feel whatever floats your boat.
 

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I have, and all of them refer to personal doing.

PRIDE
a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired

You don't see a definition anything like this?
 

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PRIDE
a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired

You don't see a definition anything like this?
Thats that only part that is accurate. The rest is strange because that isn't pride.
 

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Thats that only part that is accurate. The rest is strange because that isn't pride.

Yes, it is, Ron. The rest is most definitely part of pride and it is the part we are talking about when we tell you what we have pride in. Now that you've admitted that your definition is skewed, you can quit with the "You're not proud, you're just happy" line of reasoning.
 

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Yes, it is, Ron. The rest is most definitely part of pride and it is the part we are talking about when we tell you what we have pride in. Now that you've admitted that your definition is skewed, you can quit with the "You're not proud, you're just happy" line of reasoning.
1: the quality or state of being proud: as a: inordinate self-esteem : conceit b: a reasonable or justifiable self-respect c: delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship <parental pride>





1.a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority, whether as cherished in the mind or as displayed in bearing, conduct, etc. 2.the state or feeling of being proud. 3.a becoming or dignified sense of what is due to oneself or one's position or character; self-respect; self-esteem. 4.pleasure or satisfaction taken in something done by or belonging to oneself or believed to reflect credit upon oneself: civic pride.



I got those from respected definition sites. THOSE are what pride are. pride MUST REQUIRE one's self being involved in the action or thing.
 

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I got those from respected definition sites. THOSE are what pride are. pride MUST REQUIRE one's self being involved in the action or thing.

Those are other definitions but not the ONLY definitions. Are you saying your dictionary is the freakin' Bible and you only follow what you happen to find in it that fits what you want to argue? Of course, you know that all concepts tend to have more than one meaning. The meaning I cited is also valid. Therefore it does not mean that ONLY one's self is required to feel pride.

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Those are other definitions but not the ONLY definitions. Are you saying your dictionary is the freakin' Bible and you only follow what you happen to find in it that fits what you want to argue? Of course, you know that all concepts tend to have more than one meaning. The meaning I cited is also valid. Therefore it does not mean that ONLY one's self is required to feel pride.

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(That was a period in case you missed it.)
I looked for something similar to what you posted, and I couldn't, plus I've NEVER seen your kind of definition anywhere before. I know why.





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Those are other definitions but not the ONLY definitions. Are you saying your dictionary is the freakin' Bible and you only follow what you happen to find in it that fits what you want to argue? Of course, you know that all concepts tend to have more than one meaning. The meaning I cited is also valid. Therefore it does not mean that ONLY one's self is required to feel pride.

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(That was a period in case you missed it.)

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I looked for something similar to what you posted, and I couldn't, plus I've NEVER seen your kind of definition anywhere before.

Would there be others who'd be willing to look for the definiton of pride that also includes the concept of being proud in other than self-centered achievements?
Thankyouverymuch.
 

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from Merriam Websters

1: the quality or state of being proud: as a: inordinate self-esteem : conceit b: a reasonable or justifiable self-respect c: delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship <parental pride>2: proud or disdainful behavior or treatment : disdain3 a: ostentatious display b: highest pitch : prime4: a source of pride : the best in a group or class5: a company of lions6: a showy or impressive group <a pride of dancers>
 
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