for all you atheists out there...

[TheOriginalJames]

You are quite possibly the best believer I've ever met, Scott. A curteous Christian, something that is becoming more and more rare these days.

 

[All Else Failed]

I'm an atheist.

I guess you are right. Either way, I will be remembered by the ones who were close to me.

 

[Magic P]

I'm an atheist.

I guess you are right. Either way, I will be remembered by the ones who were close to me.

Don't be proud, man. I wish you could chill down there when you get there one day.

 

[memento_mori]

Don't be proud, man. I wish you could chill down there when you get there one day.

:confused

 

[All Else Failed]

Don't be proud, man. I wish you could chill down there when you get there one day.

Explain?

 

[memento_mori]

Don't be proud, man. I wish you could chill down there when you get there one day.

by 'there' you mean hell? and by hell, are you talking the traditional Dante's Inferno hell? the one that just threw out limbo, the place of virtuous non-believers? maybe you dont subscribe to catholocism or that depiction of hell.

but you 'wish' he can 'chill' down 'there' because he's proud of being an atheist? because he's proud to say his loved ones will remember who he was and what he did, and that's all he needs? he's not even debunking the whole God idea, he's just saying his loved one's memories are good enough for him.

 

[Magic P]

by 'there' you mean hell? and by hell, are you talking the traditional Dante's Inferno hell? the one that just threw out limbo, the place of virtuous non-believers? maybe you dont subscribe to catholocism or that depiction of hell.

but you 'wish' he can 'chill' down 'there' because he's proud of being an atheist? because he's proud to say his loved ones will remember who he was and what he did, and that's all he needs? he's not even debunking the whole God idea, he's just saying his loved one's memories are good enough for him.

ok you explained everything for me and him. Ta

 

[All Else Failed]

Ohhhh so you think i'm going to hell. Lovely. I'd rather be there anyhow, all the interesting people are in hell.

 

[Magic P]

I don't think you would get to talk to them though, maybe all you can hear them say is 'AHHHHH GET ME OUTTA HERE"

 

[All Else Failed]

Who knows, maybe Satan (if he exists, to which heavily I doubt he does) is just a slandered, misunderstood figure? The same could go for hell as a "place". Perhaps its not a tumult of death and despaire?

 

[Magic P]

Who knows, maybe Satan (if he exists, to which heavily I doubt he does) is just a slandered, misunderstood figure? The same could go for hell as a "place". Perhaps its not a tumult of death and despaire?

Well I guess no one would know for sure till we get there one day.

 

[All Else Failed]

We? You think you're going there?

 

[Magic P]

We? You think you're going there?

'There" means when we die. I don't think I am going to hell and I don't know if you are. It all depends on what you will do for your life really.

 

[Peter Parka]

Who knows, maybe Satan (if he exists, to which heavily I doubt he does) is just a slandered, misunderstood figure? The same could go for hell as a "place". Perhaps its not a tumult of death and despaire?

If he does exist, surely Satan is a good guy seeing he's doing Gods will by punishing the bad people? Just a thought.:confused

 

[Magic P]

If he does exist, surely Satan is a good guy seeing he's doing Gods will by punishing the bad people? Just a thought.:confused

If it's not Satan, losa people won't be tempted and they prob won't go to hell. Thus, no Satan never does God's will cuz he's self-seeking.

 

[Peter Parka]

So you're saying that God thinks hell is a bad idea then?

 

[Magic P]

So you're saying that God thinks hell is a bad idea then?

I am saying God wouldn't wish people to go to hell. It's their personal choice. God wouldn't reward Satan for torturing people and tempt them into hell, either. Btw, Satan is not the one who creates the system, k.

 

[Peter Parka]

So if God has no power over people going to hell, maybe he's not all powerful and wise then? And if what you are saying is true then who did create the system? If it wasn't God, why should we worship him?

 

[All Else Failed]

If it's not Satan, losa people won't be tempted and they prob won't go to hell. Thus, no Satan never does God's will cuz he's self-seeking.

God created everything (according to christianity) and that includes, EVERYTHING. Thought, emotion, intent, concepts, nature, OUR nature....so its only fair to say that god created evil and Satan, and without Satan there is no barometer to measure good from so its seems that god would need Satan.

 

[All Else Failed]

I am saying God wouldn't wish people to go to hell. It's their personal choice. God wouldn't reward Satan for torturing people and tempt them into hell, either. Btw, Satan is not the one who creates the system, k.

Since god is all knowing, and he supposedly created us, he knows what will happen to us and how we will act. Therefore, he must have predestined us to act a certain way since humans acting out of true free will would be somehting that is out of his power, and if something is out of his power he cannot be all powerful.