Execution

[Peter Parka]

Anyone is capable of murder, it really isn't a hard thing to do. Its a very grey area over whether anyone is just bad, not mad. While there are a few serial killers without psychological problems, I personally find it hard to believe that any of them could be 100% sane.

 

[Sneakiecat]

Few people are 100% sane.

 

[All Else Failed]

Do you have a cite for that?

Here's somehting from court tv, they used the actual court documents to put this together:


Ted Bundy, notorious serial killer - The Crime library



While in prison, Bundy was subjected to a psychological evaluation that the court had previously requested. In Anne Rule's book The Stranger Beside Me, she stated that psychologists found Bundy to be neither "psychotic, neurotic, the victim of organic brain disease, alcoholic, addicted to drugs, suffering from a character disorder or amnesia, and was not a sexual deviate." The psychologists concluded that he had a "strong dependency on women, and deduced that that dependency was suspect." Upon further evaluation, they concluded that Ted had a "fear of being humiliated in his relationships with women."

 

[Sneakiecat]

Um, you just proved yourself wrong there.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

He was definitely psychotic.

Here's somehting from court tv, they used the actual court documents to put this together:


Ted Bundy, notorious serial killer - The Crime library



While in prison, Bundy was subjected to a psychological evaluation that the court had previously requested. In Anne Rule's book The Stranger Beside Me, she stated that psychologists found Bundy to be neither "psychotic, neurotic, the victim of organic brain disease, alcoholic, addicted to drugs, suffering from a character disorder or amnesia, and was not a sexual deviate." The psychologists concluded that he had a "strong dependency on women, and deduced that that dependency was suspect." Upon further evaluation, they concluded that Ted had a "fear of being humiliated in his relationships with women."

Did you read your source incorrectly?

 

[Sneakiecat]

Apparently so.

 

[Homer]

:clap

 

[All Else Failed]

Yup, I was wrong, and I misread it. Not afraid to admit it. :^0

 

[Maritxu]

Death penalty is barbaric and against human rights. It is not good to say something is wrong and then do it. It's not right to take revenge, and it's irreversible, and terrible.
I could speak about how less effective it is, that some inocent can be victims of it, etc. But I don't think I need more arguments.

 

[Maritxu]

Revenge or not, someone who willfully takes another persons hopes and dreams and cuts it short doesn't deserve to survive. Either sitting in prison or walking around free. They took something from someone else which is not supposed to be within their rights.

Why should they have the right to live if they took that right away from someone else?

Should Timothy McVeigh still be alive? I don't think so. He took several childrens' lives, let alone these childrens' parents.

Who are you to decide who deserves to live? You're just putting yourself at his level by doing exactly what he did (or she)

 

[Maritxu]

I find it barbaric that as one of the so called enlightened nations, the USA has a more shocking human rights record than countries it believes to be bad.
how can you tell someone its wrong to kill if you kill them yourself for thinking otherwise? Seems pretty hypocritical to me

I wish I could give you rep for this, very well said

 

[All Else Failed]

Who are you to decide who deserves to live? You're just putting yourself at his level by doing exactly what he did (or she)

I've been trying to tell them this for pages and pages, it won't sink in.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Who are you to decide who deserves to live? You're just putting yourself at his level by doing exactly what he did (or she)

Everyone deserves to live, including his victim. Lets ask the victim what they want, oh that's right. We can't because his life was cut short by a madman.


He maliciously murdered someone out of cold blood and then was judged guilty and sentenced by his own peers in a court of law.

Why does he deserve rights if the person he murdered doesn't have them?

I'm sorry, but IMO he lost many rights when he broke the law. He sent the family and friends of the victim into a downward spiral of possible depression and a lifetime of mourning with the question of "why?" being replayed in their heads.

You think it's fair for this incarcerated killer to live out his life when he took someone elses life away from them?

 

[All Else Failed]

Everyone deserves to live, including his victim. Lets ask the victim what they want, oh that's right. We can't because his life was cut short by a madman.


He maliciously murdered someone out of cold blood and then was judged guilty and sentenced by his own peers in a court of law.

Why does he deserve rights if the person he murdered doesn't have them?

I'm sorry, but IMO he lost many rights when he broke the law. He sent the family and friends of the victim into a downward spiral of possible depression and a lifetime of mourning with the question of "why?" being replayed in their heads.

You think it's fair for this incarcerated killer to live out his life when he took someone elses life away from them?

Because a person's right can never end just because you want to play on people's heart strings. Yes, murder is absolutely terrible, but a human and his/her rights should never be a means to an end.

Living in jail for the rest of your life isnt really being "alive".


Also, the whole idea of "why should he have rights when she doesn't have them" is ridiculous. Just because someone "loses their rights" doesn't mean others rights are somehow magically removed.

 

[Demonica69]

i think if someone was to murder someone, the best punishment would be for them to be killed the same way that they murdered the victim.

 

[All Else Failed]

i think if someone was to murder someone, the best punishment would be for them to be killed the same way that they murdered the victim.

And that would make themselves muderers. You just justified murdering someone.

 

[icecuban]

The think the problem is, like in a lot of cases, is the definition of "murder". Some people do not think that putting a bad person to death is murder. I mean, look at war, right? Executing someone who you think is a canker on the earth is all the same. When you start to divide the definition of killing, you also get different types of killings, does that make sense?
I would have to say if execution is bad, then killing is bad.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Because a person's right can never end just because you want to play on people's heart strings. Yes, murder is absolutely terrible, but a human and his/her rights should never be a means to an end.

Living in jail for the rest of your life isnt really being "alive".


Also, the whole idea of "why should he have rights when she doesn't have them" is ridiculous. Just because someone "loses their rights" doesn't mean others rights are somehow magically removed.

It's not playing off emotions. It's playing off justice. If you take someone's life away from them, you don't deserve to breathe. You have absolutely NO right to murder someone out of rage, greed, spite, or for any other reason.

If you think you're 'right' for doing this, then the only rights you have are the right to remain silent and to a speedy trial where you should be convicted and your life ended.

You keep talking about rights of murderers over the rights of the victim or the rights of the victims family like the killers' rights are just so much more important.

 

[Specialized]

Eh, I think the murderer should be executed in the same fashion he murdered his victim in.

I promise there will be less murders that way.

Simple isn't it?

 

[Peter Parka]

Eh, I think the murderer should be executed in the same fashion he murdered his victim in.

I promise there will be less murders that way.

Simple isn't it?

Not simple, simplistic, and I highly doubt that, seeing that murder rates don't decrease in countries where torture and inhumane executions are performed