Do you Believe in God?

[Elle]

I'm not gonna say much in my opening post on this one. I want to see what other people have to say and then I'll come back and debate with you.

For the record, I am undecided ( which I know sounds like a bullshit cop out ) and am leaning towards no.

When people say undecided, it gives me the impression that you haven't tried to find out why you're undecided. It's almost as if you expect people to SHOW you something that sparks your believe system, or for God himself to show his face.

 

[Elle]

Before you start a debate, know this...

There is no scientific evidence for any diety. So scientifically speaking, you cannot believe.
Some people claim to be blessed with faith evidence that there is a God. Those people believe.

Science or faith. Choose your weapon. No one wins. No one convinces the other side. I hate to tell you, but that's a synopsis of an entire debate on the topic.

What she said.

 

[Elle]

You mean you've never debated this before? C'mon. We both know that I summed up all of the arguments precisely. I thought men liked it when women weren't so wordy. What's wrong with you boy? Just because YOU think you're going to enlighten us with your withheld opinion doesn't mean we're all sitting here waiting for a revelation.

lol, agreed. I think he's just looking for a debate.

 

[Elle]

Oh yes, lets attack the thread starter which has 20 posts and joined the day before yesterday be he OBVIOUSLY knows all about things that happened here in the past.

Fuck it though, someone lock this or something. I feel no need to defend myself for making a thread, and even if I did I'm just met with " oh I'm sure you do stand up comedy too." Like that is at all an intelligent or even worth-while reason to click the reply button.


This will be my last post in this thread. MAKE SURE you come in here now and get the last word.

No last word here...but if you weren't so hostile, maybe you wouldn't get the responses you got. Maybe, even though this has been done to the death, people would actually want to conversate with you, but you only seem to want to argue.

 

[Pudding Time]

Why isn't this in the religion forum?

 

[Dana]

at the end of the day.....belief or non belief is personal choice

:homo:

 

[RaynaRose]

LMAO@ dana's post above me!!!!!


(and for the record. i am an 'active practising catholic'... not sure how to word it=))

 

[Doveshit]

I'm agnostic, but I like Eastern spiritual thought.

 

[Dana]

I really don't practice any religion but i believe in the spiritual and I believe in something more than this life. Whether theres a God or not, well I can't be sure I'd like to think theres a higher power but I don't let the words of others guide me I try to make my own path.

 

[Breath]

We so often concentrate on the debate surrounding the existence of God or a higher power. I presume the concept implies some sort of benevolence, albeit some don't view God as forgiving or fair. But for the sake of the other side of the coin...what about: do you believe in the Devil, Satan, or an evil force?

 

[Dana]

We so often concentrate on the debate surrounding the existence of God or a higher power. I presume the concept implies some sort of benevolence, albeit some don't view God as forgiving or fair. But for the sake of the other side of the coin...what about: do you believe in the Devil, Satan, or an evil force?

In pure essence... I mean look at the strife & famine in the world... Wars cannot be fought over religion without some unlying essence of satanic nature.

 

[Frozen Emotion]

When people say undecided, it gives me the impression that you haven't tried to find out why you're undecided. It's almost as if you expect people to SHOW you something that sparks your believe system, or for God himself to show his face.

I'm not looking for help from anyone, I'm simply undecided. I'm allowed to do that. I asked for nothing in proof or for any God like figure to appear for me. I'm just stating what my opinion is.

lol, agreed. I think he's just looking for a debate.

So what if I was just looking for a debate? Is that a crime?

No last word here...but if you weren't so hostile, maybe you wouldn't get the responses you got. Maybe, even though this has been done to the death, people would actually want to conversate with you, but you only seem to want to argue.

You seem to be getting a tad hostile here yourself. I joined the forums 2 or 3 days ago, so I have no idea what happened in the past on this site. So the fact that it has " been done to death" means nothing to me. I don't want to argue. Perhaps we shouldn't judge a book by the cover . If I wanted to argue I can do that shit at home. I was looking for a good debate because I had nothing better to do.

Oh and lastly, notice how I used the multi-quote button? It kind of makes me wonder why you posted 4 times in a row.

 

[coolchic101]

I believe there is something out there bigger than human. I guess I can call it God. I pray and stuff and it helped me. I just don't go to church.

 

[DavyBoy]

I do accept the possibility of a superior being/force that is responsible for the creation of the universe.

But I certainly don't believe in a benevolent God of Christianity, Judaism or Islam. If such a being as in my first sentence exists, I believe it has no relevance to our lives.

 

[Ria]

I'm not gonna say much in my opening post on this one. I want to see what other people have to say and then I'll come back and debate with you.

Debate was mentioned.

There is I believe, flaming going on here and it needs to stop.

FE, I do not think you have been hostile at all, but have had to deal with it - you are new and it isn't easy to know what's what for a while at times.

 

[MMMMatilde]

I don't,

But I believe some people possibly could have one, but me personally, I don't..

I believe that if there is a god, it can be anything the people want, with the Christians it's a god up in the heavens watching all of us, with Buddhists its Buddah and he lives under a tree, for someone with no religion but believes in god it could simply be a person, or they can believe that God lives within him.

Honestly, I don't believe in god because honestly WAY to many bad things have happened to me for there to be someone "Watching over me" and "taking care of me" also, if there was a god, why would he let there be famine and wars, why would he let people think like that, and also, I believe that if there was a god, he wouldn't let people think about murdering someone, let alone actually doing the crime.

I like to stay positive and say that for some he might exist and well done to them, and I believe that there could possibly be something that happens to you after you die, but other then that, that is as far as my belief goes.

My Mum told me that I can believe what ever I want to believe and I can be any religion I want to, and this is how I am, and I am pretty happy with that!

 

[boxer810]

I have held off posting in here because I wanted to see how the tone of the thread was going to shape up....and it's not turning out to be a good one. I think that certain things that have been said in here are completely inappropriate and it sets a bad example to a very new member. The point of this thread was to see what people's views on God were, not to slam people or flame them. So a noob put this in the wrong section, get over it, or better yet, let a mod handle it! Let's try being NICE shall we? That being said, my response to the ORIGINAL post....

I was brought up in a strict Christian home after my parents divorced. I was forced to go to church at least 4 times a week, sometimes more. I know the Bible cover to cover it feels like! I have repented, many times, felt the "Holy Spirit" inside me, cried more than my share of tears at the alter, and yet I still have no SOLID proof that God exists. It boils down to faith. God tells us that we must have faith in Him....I have faith that there is a higher being out there, but I'm not so sure that He's what I've always been taught that he is.

 

[DavyBoy]

I don't,

But I believe some people possibly could have one, but me personally, I don't..

I believe that if there is a god, it can be anything the people want, with the Christians it's a god up in the heavens watching all of us, with Buddhists its Buddah and he lives under a tree, for someone with no religion but believes in god it could simply be a person, or they can believe that God lives within him.

I once thought like this, and it's kind of interesting - the concept of a 'subjective' God. I suppose it is as rational as any other religious belief.

Honestly, I don't believe in god because honestly WAY to many bad things have happened to me for there to be someone "Watching over me" and "taking care of me" also, if there was a god, why would he let there be famine and wars, why would he let people think like that, and also, I believe that if there was a god, he wouldn't let people think about murdering someone, let alone actually doing the crime.

Ironically, I can actually see how the Christian faith, at least, is compatible with death, disaster and destruction. After all, if our lives were meant to be 'heaven', what would the purpose of 'heaven' be? One of the key Christian ideas is overcoming trials and tribulations, so that makes sense.

My disillusionment with Christianity is more of a theoretical one. A) I believe the concept of a superior being that 'loves' each and every one of us is somewhat absurd, and B) I don't believe in 'sinning', which seems to be one of the fundamental concepts of Christianity. Those are my two major complaints, although I have several others.

I like to stay positive and say that for some he might exist and well done to them, and I believe that there could possibly be something that happens to you after you die, but other then that, that is as far as my belief goes.

My Mum told me that I can believe what ever I want to believe and I can be any religion I want to, and this is how I am, and I am pretty happy with that!

I have often been envious of those with religious faith, because personally, I am terrified about the concept of eternal nothingness. At least Christians and others believe in an afterlife. And, of course, we can never be sure that such a thing doesn't exist, although logically I have to say it doesn't seem particularly plausible.

But it can't hurt to hope for a kind of heaven. Brings Pascal's Wager to mind - in essence, the concept that it is better to be religious because then you die and are rewarded, or you die thinking you'll be rewarded, not knowing any better. It's a win-win. Personally, my problem with Pascal's Wager is that you cannot force yourself to believe something just because you want it to be true.

 

[SRC]

To the person that asked me why I don't believe, lets just say I lack required proof.

Faith doesn't require proof .. to require proof to establish your faith .. isn't to desire faith .. the 2 cancel each other out.

 

[Elle]

I'm not looking for help from anyone, I'm simply undecided. I'm allowed to do that. I asked for nothing in proof or for any God like figure to appear for me. I'm just stating what my opinion is.



So what if I was just looking for a debate? Is that a crime?





You seem to be getting a tad hostile here yourself. I joined the forums 2 or 3 days ago, so I have no idea what happened in the past on this site. So the fact that it has " been done to death" means nothing to me. I don't want to argue. Perhaps we shouldn't judge a book by the cover . If I wanted to argue I can do that shit at home. I was looking for a good debate because I had nothing better to do.

Oh and lastly, notice how I used the multi-quote button? It kind of makes me wonder why you posted 4 times in a row.

Stick rammed in the arse, pretty hard, hey?