Difference of Opinion

[Guyzerr]

I'm not a hypocrite, I'm just human and I make mistakes. He knows that. Tell me, how is a Christian supposed to act? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I see....I should just shut my mouth when others put down me and my beliefs..instead of speaking my mind I should repeat the Lords prayer over and over again until my tongue swells...I should taste soap each and every time I say a curse word........and I shall rot in Hell for flirting with the opposite sex...lol...if it's ok by you, I think I'll wait and have Him judge me, thank you anyway.

We cleared this up in a PM so I'm not going to answer you as tempted as I am. I think that's the best way to handle this.

 

[sexysadie]

I accept your apology. That was a very noble thing for you to do and I thank you.

I have my very personal reasons for no longer being a believer and I used to rub it in a Christians face every chance I got. I've progressed to the point where I no longer think people are weak minded for their beliefs and have come to terms with the idea that whatever they choose to believe in is their business. I just have no interest in allowing someone to shove it down my throat especially when I tell 'em they have their thoughts and I have mine. Never the two shall meet again.

I mean it. You've always been very sweet to me and I'd hate to think that I've said something to hurt you, I know my mouth praddles on at times....lol..but as stubborn as I am, I'm also harmless.

I, myself, have come a long way. My story is not a pretty one and I'm not about to spew it out here for everyone to read and judge, but I will say this....my faith has been tested and tried and I somehow survived....I won't say that I'm whole....but I'm getting there little by little every day. For years and years I wouldn't even allow anybody to speak His name in my house.......or even in my presence. I won't ask you your reasons.....but I think I understand them.

 

[Maldoror]

Following religion just puts unnecessary pressure on people.

i don't think it's really a choice. I tried to keep my belief for example during my teenage years, because I'd prefer to believe in God but i couldn't. It's a matter of circumstances and growth.
(not that I induced that from my experience only, but it's the closest example I can think of)

 

[sexysadie]

We cleared this up in a PM so I'm not going to answer you as tempted as I am. I think that's the best way to handle this.

......and for that, I thank you.

 

[sexysadie]

Following religion just puts unnecessary pressure on people.

What does that mean Kimmy??

 

[Guyzerr]

I mean it. You've always been very sweet to me and I'd hate to think that I've said something to hurt you, I know my mouth praddles on at times....lol..but as stubborn as I am, I'm also harmless.

I don't hurt easily and seeing as we've cleared the air it's forgotten on my part. Even if we wouldn't have I'm not one to hold a grudge.

I, myself, have come a long way. My story is not a pretty one and I'm not about to spew it out here for everyone to read and judge, but I will say this....my faith has been tested and tried and I somehow survived....I won't say that I'm whole....but I'm getting there little by little every day. For years and years I wouldn't even allow anybody to speak His name in my house.......or even in my presence. I won't ask you your reasons.....but I think I understand them.

Regardless of what side of the fence a person is on they always have their reason(s) to believe as they do. Like you mine are not pretty either but unlike you ( from the sound of it ) I was a believer when a lot of it came down hence I went the other direction. If you think about it there's a lot of parallels there.

 

[sexysadie]

I don't hurt easily and seeing as we've cleared the air it's forgotten on my part. Even if we wouldn't have I'm not one to hold a grudge.



Regardless of what side of the fence a person is on they always have their reason(s) to believe as they do. Like you mine are not pretty either but unlike you ( from the sound of it ) I was a believer when a lot of it came down hence I went the other direction. If you think about it there's a lot of parallels there.

I was a believer before during and after......I just got sidetracked for a while.

 

[Guyzerr]

I was a believer before during and after......I just got sidetracked for a while.

Sidetracked is ok. I'm still sidetracked and it's been almost 45 years.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

What does that mean Kimmy??

Praying, worrying about going to hell, attending Church. I heard there is actually over 700 commandments, not ten.

 

[sexysadie]

Sidetracked is ok. I'm still sidetracked and it's been almost 45 years.

Time gets away from us doesn't it? Sometimes it helps to talk about it....even more so with somebody you don't know but at the same time, can relate. I'm not offering, I'm just saying that it would be ok to ask.

 

[Thornless]

Last few pages of this thread reminded me why I am agnostic.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Sorry, I meant over 600 commandments.

 

[sexysadie]

Praying, worrying about going to hell, attending Church. I heard there is actually over 700 commandments, not ten.

I don't worry about Hell, life on earth is way too short for that. I don't attend church because I've been there and, trust me, He was nowhere near that building, I can be closer to God in my car or at my kitchen table or anywhere I choose. I pray but that's so easy to do.....it's just talking really, sometimes it's not even out loud.

 

[Maldoror]

This is turning ugly.

 

[Guyzerr]

Time gets away from us doesn't it? Sometimes it helps to talk about it....even more so with somebody you don't know but at the same time, can relate. I'm not offering, I'm just saying that it would be ok to ask.

Na.... wouldn't be a good thing but thanks for the offer. I still have a good friend that's a minister and he's learned not to ask anymore. It took him long enough. We still have some great discussions about other things and I know he's itching to pester me but he doesn't. He's a good man..... for now.

 

[Guyzerr]

This is turning ugly.

You like a good fight don't you? :24:

 

[sexysadie]

Na.... wouldn't be a good thing but thanks for the offer. I still have a good friend that's a minister and he's learned not to ask anymore. It took him long enough. We still have some great discussions about other things and I know he's itching to pester me but he doesn't. He's a good man..... for now.

I'm sure he is and you're welcome. For me, nobody could tell me anything, I wouldn't hear it, I didn't want to....in a way I took comfort in the fact that I had somebody to blame....somebody to hate without the confrontation.... although I did a pretty good job of alienating people. I'm not saying that's the case with you, this was just my own experience. Like I said, I've come a long way.

 

[Accountable]

I was a believer before during and after......I just got sidetracked for a while.

Sidetracked is ok. I'm still sidetracked and it's been almost 45 years.

OOOOoooooo!!! Fellow backslid heathens. :thumbup

 

[sexysadie]

OOOOoooooo!!! Fellow backslid heathens. :thumbup

Confession is good for the soul, is it not?...lol

 

[Accountable]

Following religion just puts unnecessary pressure on people.

Praying, worrying about going to hell, attending Church. I heard there is actually over 700 commandments, not ten.

Wow! That religion must be hell!

I know a lot of churches that seem to spend all their time making their members feel guilty. I even went to one that called everyone forward to give their contribution to the church, rather than passing the plate. First the tithe (10%), then again for the building fund. Fucking humiliating for some.

Read the stories of Jesus. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John - first four books of the New Testament. You don't have to believe anything but in the goodness of your fellow man to see the value of what he says.

If someone said that to me I'd run away screaming, so I understand you running away. ... but then check it out sometime later.