Difference of Opinion

[Peter Parka]

I know a lot of churches that seem to spend all their time making their members feel guilty. I even went to one that called everyone forward to give their contribution to the church, rather than passing the plate. First the tithe (10%), then again for the building fund. Fucking humiliating for some.

There was a guy who used to live over the road to me and that sounds like the fucked up religion he was in. He got ex communicated because he wouldn't give them a 10th of his wages!:willy_nilly:

 

[BornReady]

I'm not interested, thanks. I marvel every day at the wonderful world God has created, using the laws He set up, and see no conflict at all between science and a belief in a superior being. I'm always disappointed when otherwise sensible people insist that it must be either/or without the first iota of real reasoning for it.

I'd provide you with not only reasoning, but lots and lots of scientific evidence too. But you won't read it, nor will acknowledge it, because of this belief of yours. And thank you for so blindly proving my point in all of this!!! That is just beyond priceless!!!

Accountable seems like an open-minded guy to me, Ed. Yet you seem convinced he is close-minded solely on the basis that he believes in God. That sounds like prejudice to me and prejudice is a type of close-mindedness.

If all theists are close-minded then are all atheists open-minded?

lol I can't believe I'm taking the side of a theist against an atheist. What's wrong with me?

 

[Minor Axis]

Accountable seems like an open-minded guy to me, Ed. Yet you seem convinced he is close-minded solely on the basis that he believes in God. That sounds like prejudice to me and prejudice is a type of close-mindedness.

If all theists are close-minded then are all atheists open-minded?

lol I can't believe I'm taking the side of a theist against an atheist. What's wrong with me?

All human beings regardless of their belief system can be closed minded. I count myself as one of the most open minded people in this forum. Now who disagrees? And if you do, say why exactly.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Someone who doesn't want to look at what somebody else has to prove IS close-minded. I'm sorry, but what just happened there in those quotes?

 

[Maldoror]

The close-minded and open-minded labels have absolutely lost all meaning. I am open-minded in the sense that I respect and I would fight for people's freedom regardless of their beliefs or natures, but not in the sense that I'd accept homophobic, racist, ignorant, retarded, delusional, destructive opinions and ideas from anyone without calling them out on their bullshit.

 

[Minor Axis]

I think open minded only means you are willing to consider an alternate view. It does not mean you will accept that view. But if there is reasonable evidence, you would be susceptible to changing your mind. Close minded means despite having a situation where there is plenty of room for doubt, a person sticks to their belief system no matter what, no matter if their belief is completely devoid of substance.

Now if there is not enough information or documentation to make a decision about a divine widget, but a person decides this is his/her belief anyway. What does that make them? As an Agnostic, my position, which is discounted by Atheists, is that while there is not enough info to reach a conclusion regarding anything specific about a God who may lords over us, there is still room to suspect or wish for such a thing or just a spiritual plane of existence. I know I want this (the spiritual existence), but I'm mature enough to admit that I could not in my mature, responsible mind, 'believe' such a thing based only on a desire. That would be childish. The best I can do is hope. And I can't even use the word 'faith' because faith connotates some kind of favorable odds your are right.

 

[Dana]

You wish.

wait why would i wish such an idiotic thing? oh wait i wouldn't....

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

wait why would i wish such a idiotic thing? oh wait i wouldn't....

Stupid statements deserve stupid replies.

 

[Dana]

Stupid statements deserve stupid replies.

Actually if you're looking in from the sidelines it's quite logical if you think about it. You said you believed in God at one point in your life than things happened that caused you to change your beliefs.... Well being into a guy who tries to shove his logic down your throat sure would do that to a person.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

actually if you're looking in from the sidelines it's quite logical if you think about it. You said you believed in God at one point in your life than things happened that caused you to change your beliefs.... Well being into a guy who tries to shove his logic down your throat sure would do that to a person.

I stopped believing in god in 2009, before I met any of you, try again.

 

[Dana]

I stopped believing in god in 2009, before I met any of you, try again.

I didn't say what I was saying I thought to be true but looking at it if one were a spectator one could assume...

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Those are pretty short-sighted spectators.

 

[Maldoror]

Why are there 2 members consecutively claiming that someone literally told KimmyCharmeleon what to currently believe?

 

[Dana]

I'm done. I merely replied because you replied at me. This whole thread went into the shitter like 10 pages ago. Liquid Plumr can't save her.

 

[Dana]

Why are there 2 members consecutively claiming that someone literally told KimmyCharmeleon what to currently believe?

Maybe because shes "seeing" said member...

 

[cam elle toe]

I'm done. I merely replied because you replied at me. This whole thread went into the shitter like 10 pages ago. Liquid Plumr can't save her.

I knew it would get "flammable"

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Why are there 2 members consecutively claiming that someone literally told KimmyCharmeleon what to currently believe?

Because they just want some easy-to-grasp idea Someone brainwashing me would be all too simple.

 

[Maldoror]

Maybe because shes "seeing" said member...

And?

Were you actually trying to submit a message of less than 5 characters? Stop being lazy and post something of substance.

Ahaha.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

It's bad thinking to think that because two events stand out that they must be related.

 

[Dana]

wow getting awfully offended for something thats not supposed to be fact. I never said I thought it to be true. I said it was an easy assumption to conclude.