Did Jesus exist?

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darkangel

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I'm very confused.
So am I Retro. I always have been about religion. I don't usually go around stating that I am Catholic. I don't go around stating that I'm religious. But it doesn't take away that fact that I was Baptized as a Catholic. And once you are that remains with you for the rest of your life according to my beliefs. But now Peter has a point. If I were to label myself I guess I would be leaning toward being Agnostic. But if I was to need a religious figure in my life because of sickness or near death I would want a Priest of Catholic Denomination. How's that for confusing??? I am just saying that I don't like labels...
 

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So am I Retro. I always have been about religion. I don't usually go around stating that I am Catholic. I don't go around stating that I'm religious. But it doesn't take away that fact that I was Baptized as a Catholic. And once you are that remains with you for the rest of your life according to my beliefs. But now Peter has a point. If I were to label myself I guess I would be leaning toward being Agnostic. But if I was to need a religious figure in my life because of sickness or near death I would want a Priest of Catholic Denomination. How's that for confusing??? I am just saying that I don't like labels...


How old were you when you were baptised as a Catholic? Did you have a say in the matter?
 

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How old were you when you were baptized as a Catholic? Did you have a say in the matter?
I was Baptized as an infant at a Roman Catholic Church at that! I had no say in the matter at all. I really don't like religion in all seriousness but i had no choice in the matter at the time. However right now I dont strictly follow any religion. I believe myself to be very spiritual. But like I said i still hold on to what I was Baptized as and I believe that if I'm going to die i need to be absolved of my sins before it happens. And I do pray from time to time in the privacy of my home and when I go into the hospital I will pray with a Priest. Pretty confusing huh? How would like to be me?
 

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Because I really believe in some aspects of it....

I can understand that but I wouldn't hold myself to a belief that I only agree with some of. Take politics, for example, I voted and campaigned for the Conservatives because it was between then and Labour who were ruining us. I dont agree with many Conservative policies and will never be a member of their party, I just voted for what I thought we could realistically get as the best, there are no such bars when it comes to religion.
 

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Maybe deep down I need to hold on to it especially at this point in time in my life because my health is at seious risk. Can't blame me for that....
 

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Maybe deep down I need to hold on to it especially at this point in time in my life because my health is at seious risk. Can't blame me for that....

Whatever keeps you going,:thumbup Personally I'm happy because I dont have to hold on to some unfounded superstition, its a big weight off my mind.:thumbup
 

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Whatever keeps you going,:thumbup Personally I'm happy because I don't have to hold on to some unfounded superstition, its a big weight off my mind.:thumbup
Holding onto religion doesn't weight badly on my mind. I don't think about it often. I will pray for others and believe that my prayers will be answered 99% of the time. And they are. That in itself is what keeps me holding on. Because when I can see God's hands at work it makes me happy and gives me a sense that at the end of this life something will follow. Don't know exactly what it is just like nobody else can but I know in my heart that there's got to be something.
 

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Sounds like fear to me, personally. I'm glad that I'm over that, can accept death and will not be scared to die. I really mean that, I know few people can, I've been at deaths door before and all I could say was....

"COME AND GET ME YOU CUNT! IF YOU GOT THE BALLS!":D:thumbup
 

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I have no fear of death. I'm saying it would be really nice if there was an existence after the short time that we have on earth. I fear the suffering that comes before death. That is my only fear. I am just hoping that what happens after we die will be much better than what we were given here. Because of religion in my heart I know it will.
 

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So am I Retro. I always have been about religion. I don't usually go around stating that I am Catholic. I don't go around stating that I'm religious. But it doesn't take away that fact that I was Baptized as a Catholic. And once you are that remains with you for the rest of your life according to my beliefs. But now Peter has a point. If I were to label myself I guess I would be leaning toward being Agnostic. But if I was to need a religious figure in my life because of sickness or near death I would want a Priest of Catholic Denomination. How's that for confusing??? I am just saying that I don't like labels...


DA, despite what you state it appears you ARE religious or at least religious minded....and that's not bad for digestion!!:)
 

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I have no fear of death. I'm saying it would be really nice if there was an existence after the short time that we have on earth. I fear the suffering that comes before death. That is my only fear. I am just hoping that what happens after we die will be much better than what we were given here. Because of religion in my heart I know it will.


It would be nice if I won the lottery but I'm not going to waste my life hoping I win it on the off chance, life is for living, now!:thumbup (sounds like you pretty much have that idea too, just stop attaching yourself to a religion whose leader influences thousands of people to die before they should.:thumbup)
 

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I have no fear of death. I'm saying it would be really nice if there was an existence after the short time that we have on earth. I fear the suffering that comes before death. That is my only fear. I am just hoping that what happens after we die will be much better than what we were given here. Because of religion in my heart I know it will.


now isn't that sorta stride towards 'reincarnation' or Ava Gone as it is called by Hindus??
 

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It just ----just occurred to me that why should we blame God for good as well as bad, yes why??

Just thought...people die in an earthquake, a cyclone, a hurricane,floods, a landslide, any accident because they are at a wrong place at a wrong time ?
People die of hunger because they don't work or grow crops nor store them for rainy season..?
crops are bad due to drought or other natural factors but this ain't God's fault...human planning may have gone wrong...somehow, somewhere??
Doesn't the Bible say: There is time for everything???

I cannot believe God will wish anybody bad!!
 

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now isn't that sorta stride towards 'reincarnation' or Ava Gone as it is called by Hindus??
No it's not reincarnation. I believe in Heaven and Hell. I believe that Heaven will be a much better place than earth and sometimes I actually believe that earth is Hell.
 

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No it's not reincarnation. I believe in Heaven and Hell. I believe that Heaven will be a much better place than earth and sometimes I actually believe that earth is Hell.


But, reincarnation also seems to say that if your deeds are good in this world you will be born in as a superior person (maybe Queen of England:) in the next life.....?
 
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