Bullycide in America

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darkangel

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All of it? A hook kick, for example?
LOL! I don't think I could get my leg up high enough for a hook kick anymore. I would use whatever I deemed necessary under the circumstances. When you know as many Karate moves as I have learned in the 2 to3 years it took me to get my Brown Belt you go by instincts a lot so I really couldn't tell you what I would use in a certain situation.
 
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LOL! I don't think I could get my leg up high enough for a hook kick anymore. I would use whatever I deemed necessary under the circumstances. When you know as many Karate moves as I have learned in the 2 to3 years it took me to get my Brown Belt you go by instincts a lot so I really couldn't tell you what I would use in a certain situation.

i think this most definitely applies then:

"it's better to know it and not need it"
 

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I've been lucky in life really, I've never suffered extreme bullying, I've had a few encounters with ppl in my past that have left some scars but as you grow older you realise that they're bullying to try and fill a void in their own lives.

My little brother got bullied at school by this kid who was an evil little shit, it got to the point of where my little brother was in the school playground self harming in full view of the teachers.. my mum had previously spoken to the teachers about this kid and over and over again she got told that they'll sort the problem and after seeing my brother in the playground self harming they called her in and asked if home life etc was ok due to this..she went ape and it totally deflated her knowing her little boy was hurting himself because of the shit this kid put him through so she took matters into her own hands,had very stern words with the kid and his mother and things like that shouldn't be up to the parent to fix, parent's send their kids to school to be safe.

It's horrible when you hear a child taking their live due to bullying and more and more you see it nowadays with stabbings and shootings it's getting so scary to think a child could have those thoughts and be that low to think about killing themselves.
 

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I don't know if this article has been linked but it is interesting reading on the subject:

News Week: From Lockers to Lockup Oct2010

A freshmen girl was harassed for 3 months after getting sexually involved with two seniors who had girl friends, before hanging herself. Because there is no "bully" law, the local District Attorney is charging the youth involved with stalking, criminal harassment, civil rights violations resulting in bodily harm alleging that the dead girl's ability to get an education had been made impossible. And finally statutory rape aimed at the two seniors who had sex with a minor.

Fair or no? Based on what I read, if the bullying could not be fixed by the school administration (if they knew about it) some form of legal punishment is deserved. I'm still debating if the accused crimes are overboard or not.
 

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Fair or no? Based on what I read, if the bullying could not be fixed by the school administration (if they knew about it) some form of legal punishment is deserved. I'm still debating if the accused crimes are overboard or not.
Not fair and much over rated. This is what jumped out at me when I read the link.

" In the case of Prince, the answer of who’s to blame might change if you knew that she had tried to kill herself before the epithets, was on medication for depression, and was struggling with her parents’ separation. "

imo it was a suicide waiting to happen. Everyone wants someone to blame providing it's not the one that should actually be blamed. That's what our society has turned in to. A blame " someone " society. It disgusts me because it teaches the kids of today nothing about the word responsibility.
 

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killing yourself over being bullied.... sad and not in the sympathetic way. Where the fuck are the teachers, the parents, the police? A parent should be able to read their child.
 

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killing yourself over being bullied.... sad and not in the sympathetic way. Where the fuck are the teachers, the parents, the police? A parent should be able to read their child.
Teens and kids killing themselves over being bullied is not a rare occurrence. It is sad and in a sympathetic way. Sometime parents can't read what's bothering their children. It could be a number of things that make kids sad. A lot of kids are afraid to tell that they're being bullied. Then they deal with it by suicide and that's just a terrible out when things can be done about it.
 

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Did I ever SAY it was rare? NO. These kids need to be taught that it's not okay to just lie down and take a beating but to whoop their ass back. Have a back bone. If you stand up and don't let people walk all over you; you will get far in life.
 

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bullycide???

Did I ever SAY it was rare? NO. These kids need to be taught that it's not okay to just lie down and take a beating but to whoop their ass back. Have a back bone. If you stand up and don't let people walk all over you; you will get far in life.
Well from your 1st post it sounds like you've never heard of it. So your answer is to fight it out? What are kids supposed to do when they're ganged up on by a group of bullies? Fight it out one kid against a group??? And get their ass whooped each and every time? That's not a solution. The solution lays in parents talking to their kids about bullycide and schools having programs about it. And if that doesn't work then the legal process should get involved.
 

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Well from your 1st post it sounds like you've never heard of it. So your answer is to fight it out? What are kids supposed to do when they're ganged up on by a group of bullies? Fight it out one kid against a group??? And get their ass whooped each and every time? That's not a solution. The solution lays in parents talking to their kids about bullycide and schools having programs about it. And if that doesn't work then the legal process should get involved.
First off... Bullycide isn't a word... I've heard of suicide and I've heard of bullying but bullycide is stupid. Fighting is better than giving in... and didn't I make a comment about the parents?
 

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Did I ever SAY it was rare? NO. These kids need to be taught that it's not okay to just lie down and take a beating but to whoop their ass back. Have a back bone. If you stand up and don't let people walk all over you; you will get far in life.
dana, that's real important for bullied kids in the real world. they need to stand up and fight or they will always get stomped down.

cyberbullying is a different animal and these kids would be better counseled to tattle, block the bullies, whatever to avoid them. i've watched adults relentlessly tear into children seeking help for homicidal and suicidal feelings.

look at what happened to that poor kid who jumped off the bridge in new york. his roommate rigged a spy cam to broadcast a homosexual date live to the web. that kind of crap needs to have some prosecutions to put the word out that our society does not tolerate that kind of behavior.

the only law in place that i know is the megan meyer cyberbullying prevention act. read the bill at http://thomas.loc.gov/
 

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One other tidbit that I believe in Ed .................

Parents don't teach little Johnny or Suzie to stick up for themselves anymore. It's all about " report it to someone". Fuck that... if someone tried bullying me as a kid I dropped the gloves and was ready to get at it. Sometimes I won and sometimes I lost but never did the same kids try it again.

fyi I got bullied as a kid a lot for two reasons... ) I was always overweight ) I stuttered so bad my parents couldn't understand me. The moral here Ed is I lived it so don't come back at me with " wtf would you know ".


exactly....when my son first started school i set him a few ground rules,he gets picked on,he fights back......he see's someone else being bullied,he sticks up for them......he doesn't act like a bully

if the school had a problem with any of these rules i'd deal with that

on one occassion he was walking up the playground at the start of the day,he had his favourite 'naf naf' jacket on....a blue one with a grey hood......well this tearaway thought it'd be a good idea to run by and grab the hood spinning my son around......well my son chased him and caught him,lets just say that the tearaway never tried a stunt like that again
 
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Society reacts in outrage when kids commit suicide due to bullying yet doesn't do anything about it. People revert back to the whole "kids need to just stand up for themselves".

If we want to see change, everyone has to get involved in the issue and take action before suicide happens.
 

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I really don't think that the answer to hostility is hostility. I think the answer lays more in children and teens communicating with parents and the schools themselves. And vice versa...
 
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